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The Islamist's pickup of choice.
Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.
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If only you knew how right you are. Yes, this is absolutely, 100%, the exact policy they hold.
They have no willpower to even bother stopping Paki or Nigger terrorism, because white civilians aren't particularly important in the eyes of the state. White terrorists go straight for the throat, which has been true in the UK and USA for the last fifty years - it is clear that they only bother dissuading white terrorists, regardless of specific politics, because white terrorists have an awful habit of killing politicians and state employees, rather than going for civilians every time like Pakis do.
They will do everything they can to prevent white terrorists from existing in any form, because the "profile" of such terrorists has, in all recent history, consisted of enormous demolition operations in major metropolitan areas or massacring Federal Agents, soldiers, police officers or politicians - and can very easily be seen as a legitimate force against the government by the public - which is game over for the government. The second a legit, domestic force starts hitting their own forces, they have to backtrack and play very nicely, because those same "terrorists" could turn around, call them terrorists and start collecting taxes on behalf of the "real" government - the "terrorists" have the capacity to become the government.
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DiscoRodeo
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I think the other thing to keep in mind, with the War on Terror, is that while people like to joke around about it's name, there is some element in truth over why it was fought (regardless of how effectively fought it was).
To preface things a bit, prior to 9/11, counterterrorism was more of a cloak and dagger affair, involved bribing officials, working with local governments across the world, sending in agents to gather intelligence on foreign cells operating against US interests, fighting through foreign proxies, and on occasion killing individuals or arresting them with precision raids.
9/11 changed that dynamic drastically, because a major terrorist attack managed to slip through said protocol which worked throughout the cold war, and with the global system becoming more unbalanced with the fall of the USSR, with other former soviet satellite states becoming less kept in check by nations such as Russia or China, and based on the issue that it was likely that terrorism would become a more prominent issue, said dynamic had to be reevaluated.
You had previous attempts to blow up American embassies (some semi-successful, most less). You had attempts to blow up the twin towers before. You had Saddam Hussein, after desert war, implicated in a plot to car bomb GHWB when he was on tour in the Middle East during the Clinton years.
In part, 9/11 was a point where the US and her allies had to decide if they were going to continue a standard cloak and dagger approach for counter-terrorism operations, or combine that with basically destroying any regime that had a history of participating in terrorist actions, funding them, or was offering a safe haven for anti-American terrorists.
The nation building aspect, in my opinion, failed and failed badly. It wasn't necessarily damned from the start, but to begin: In Iraq, debathification failed almost entirely. A big reason for the failure and surge, to quote the Gulf War for reference in how large the military was "Yesterday, Iraq had the fourth largest army in the world, today it has the second largest army in Iraq", was because as soon as we landed there, we disbanded the military and made most of its people with military training unemployed and completely outside of the current regime.
There might of been a chance at nation building had we attempted to debathify significantly less, to incorporate the old military units into new state police (something which actually did have some success in Mosul), or propped up a different dictator other than Saddam who knew not to fuck with the US. Maybe, anyways.
To go back to your previous statement, , but I don't have the answer for how to respond to one state supporting terrorism against another. Bomb them into the stone age and skip the nation buildings? Not a pretty idea imo, though Clinton did try that with air strikes against Saddam in operation Desert Fox to no real avail.
What Obama, Trump, and Biden did eventually return to was deescalating the war, and attempting to reinstate a more cloak and dagger type operation for counter terrorism. Now, sending in black hawk teams had many logistical problems. What was the way we improved this dynamic? Drones.
Currently, our intelligence community is making a return to what it was before the neo-cons took over government, with fighting through proxies with American advisors, drones instead of black hawks, and otherwise trying to take preventative measures against terrorist action through gathering better intel. Will it work? I actually have my doubts, and think that some things are bound to slip through at some point or the other.
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Biden - 'Do I bare responsibility Zero responsibility.'
'We need to see the Taliban step up and permit an evacuation
not- allow the CIA to use bases on its soil for cross-border counterterrorism missions after U.S. forces withdraw from Afghanistan, Prime Minister Imran Khan
My neighbors in Kabul, Afghanistan yelling Allah Akbar in support of the government and troops against Taliban
People rushing to the banks to withdraw all their money and flee Kabul, Afghanistan
People sitting on the wings of an American military C-17 aircraft in Kabul airport
Quite a celebration at Pol e-Charki, where 5000 Taliban prisoners were freed. Some of these men had been imprisoned since the early 2000s
(Just a reminder that I've not named these videos - they are as I found them. I've only edited for intelligibility)
'We need to see the Taliban step up and permit an evacuation
not- allow the CIA to use bases on its soil for cross-border counterterrorism missions after U.S. forces withdraw from Afghanistan, Prime Minister Imran Khan
My neighbors in Kabul, Afghanistan yelling Allah Akbar in support of the government and troops against Taliban
People rushing to the banks to withdraw all their money and flee Kabul, Afghanistan
People sitting on the wings of an American military C-17 aircraft in Kabul airport
Quite a celebration at Pol e-Charki, where 5000 Taliban prisoners were freed. Some of these men had been imprisoned since the early 2000s
(Just a reminder that I've not named these videos - they are as I found them. I've only edited for intelligibility)
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I swear Disclose.tv is just a troll who pretends to act like an authoritative news source
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They do give off 'teenage lad posting from his bedroom' vibes.
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We have become the meme.
What a way to end the war on terror. With people falling from the sky and the losing side lying right up to the end.
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huh. so those organizations being hijacked by the FBI weren't necessarily trying to get them to do false flag operation, it was all just a way to stop them from organizing at all
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Are we gonna get any historic video of the US handing off some sort of symbolic moniker to the Taliban like that video of the British surrendering control of Hong Kong? Maybe the lowering of the American flag, and raising the flag of the emirate of Afghanistan? While US and Taliban troops stand in formation on opposing sides of a tarmac. That would be so dope, not gonna lie.
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God's work
Aww look, The journo is trying to figure it out.
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Its what Journo dessrve for be Soyjack on this whole issue.
It chalked up to Orange man bad & No mean tweets & bidden voters having blood on their hands.
Main Point : Forever wars in Middle east you don't leave you just keep fighting in middle east.
Ancient Pioneer
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I've always found it hilarious how revolting people drew Trump. The style is something right from Ren and Stimpy.
VolkAnsGewehr
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Everyone laugh at the idiot too stupid to understand that Israel destabilizes nations that are aligned against it.
Also too stupid to understand destabilizing Irans borders.
Lololololol who's the retard.
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Lt. Scheller relieved of command.
"The video was posted online Thursday evening by Scheller, who identified himself as the Battalion Commander for Advanced Infantry Training Battalion. On Friday afternoon, Scheller shared another post to Facebook announcing that he had been relieved of command."
He's got a bright & shining career path ahead of him in Congress, for sure.
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lol they did exactly what he said they'd do.
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I knew he was screwed when I saw that video.
Rather telling when you start demanding accountability from the plutocratic jews running society you get fired instead of the incompetents.
This system is so evil and corrupt, I hope it crumbles.
Ancient Pioneer
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This is rather amusing, they reacted INSTANTLY to threats from within when getting called out for their incompetence, something I fully expected. Where was this speed and action when military personnel were attacking Tucker Carlson for commenting on the woke shit the military is pushing? It used to be that if you were military and made a comment at all about any political shit you were cashiered, now you're allowed to, as long as you don't criticize specific ideology and its members.