Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

[FuckingDogs4Living]

You can be against police shooting in a situation like Ashli Babbitt's and still see how/why they did and how it's not a real federal case, same for a good chunk of these other bad shoots out there. (And not so for lots of others.) Yet all these people instantly compare it to the BLM protests/riots/etc. and start "just asking questions" about who they're allowed to shoot now. They're so quick to jump on anything as a "secret plan" by the Left yet they don't seem to see how Ashli Babbitt is exactly what they complain about, a tragedy within a larger event being lifted into a cudgel against cultural enemies.

There's also something... strange... about how far they go to create narratives about how police were justified because somebody was bad and got what's coming to them (I often see George Floyd raised as the equivalent to Babbitt) but when there's an instance of police directly in a conflict and possibly screwing up by being a bit fast on the trigger there's no leeway given. Everything becomes that cudgel instead of lamenting that it's bad people are getting shot so often by police. I'd rather Babbitt and Floyd be alive and both Byrd and Chauvin have not killed anyone but in the pro-Trump fever swamp it's like there's some sort of transactional value that matters more than these four people and it's "unfair" only in this case and only because she was a Trump supporter.

To this: I can't find it now I did actually love seeing some Trump people in a thread arguing January 6th was a "party with a carnival like atmosphere" to handwave away the part that got a bit out of control and condemn the police for something they tend to defend in every other instance.

The biggest thing I don’t understand about US police is why they always shoot to kill. When watching european police use their weapons, even in harsher european countries outside of EU, like Russia, they tend to shoot at the legs.

Americans just unload their magazines into their assailant’s torso, as if they were playing paintball.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

The biggest thing I don’t understand about US police is why they always shoot to kill. When watching european police use their weapons, even in harsher european countries outside of EU, like Russia, they tend to shoot at the legs.

Americans just unload their magazines into their assailant’s torso, as if they were playing paintball.

Because that's how American pigs are trained. You shoot for the center of mass, eliminate the threat, then possibly get suspended with pay if it's too egregious.

 

[HarryHowler]

The biggest thing I don’t understand about US police is why they always shoot to kill. When watching european police use their weapons, even in harsher european countries outside of EU, like Russia, they tend to shoot at the legs.

Americans just unload their magazines into their assailant’s torso, as if they were playing paintball.

In America, it's significantly more likely that your assailant will also be armed with a gun, meaning that even if you kneecap them, they can still take potshots at you from the ground. In most of Europe the assailant will probably only have a knife or blunt instrument of some sort.

 

[Fish Fudge]

In America, it's significantly more likely that your assailant will also be armed with a gun, meaning that even if you kneecap them, they can still take potshots at you from the ground. In most of Europe the assailant will probably only have a knife or blunt instrument of some sort.

Really? I was under the assumption European police generally only deployed armed units when the suspect/attacker was reported as being armed, or suspected of having explosives. For knives and blunt instruments I figured they used numbers and tasers. You see clips of UK police swarming 20-30 officers with batons around one guy with a machete.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

The biggest thing I don’t understand about US police is why they always shoot to kill. When watching european police use their weapons, even in harsher european countries outside of EU, like Russia, they tend to shoot at the legs.

Americans just unload their magazines into their assailant’s torso, as if they were playing paintball.

Lethal threats call for lethal response. Simple. Shooting at legs is not effective in real world situations. Shoot to stop threats is logically shoot to kill under the assumption that it is you or them that dies.

The real issue is that police reach for the gun too often is because they have had their other “tools” removed from their training. Meaning that in the old days when police were more lightly armed with simple revolvers, they had much more leeway to beat the shit out of someone using their fists and baton. People would comply when cops would go hands on. Over time, officers would become very skilled at kicking the shit out of shitheads. Basically give them the spanks they needed from missing daddies. Because of video camera and Jewish lawyers and media, police officers lost a lot of their ability to muster extrajudicial justice and control of situations. Police training, as a result changed into more of a mind game / negotiation mexican standoff that would result in a very short list of escalation leading to automatically and robotically discharging their firearm in response to anything that the officer could not control. Which brings up another issue. American police never, or rarely disengage. Everything becomes a big alpha CHUD game where the damn cop absolutely HAS to win. Even a minor infraction or interaction where the suspect runs, runs their mouth, or lies ends up with backup being called and 6 cops on the scene because they simply won’t back the fuck off of some minor infraction they saw.

TLDR: it’s not entirely the fault of the cops. It’s the Jewish panopticon system has removed their tools to beat asshats into behaving, while simultaneously requiring that they simply must never disengage or lose the dick measuring contest.

it would also help if certain blocs of the community simply stopped being low-IQ daddyless shitheads street gangster thugs who act surprised when they are pulled over for unregistered automobile operation when they are suspected on a drive-by shooting murder of some other shithead.

The difference was that Babbitt was perceived as a potential threat to VP Pence, not to mention the entire Senate and House of Reps. I'm pretty sure she was already committing a crime by entering the building, she got shot trying to breach the last line of defense. She fucked around, she found out.

Unarmed MAGA girl is a threat to Trump’s hand picked second in command. Right.....

It was a fucking panty-raid. There have been other less-visible clashes at the capitol like this. A few cops got roughed up, big deal. It’s not like they were getting hit with rocks, piss bombs, and fireworks like the BLM rioters. Those bruised cops should be upset at their brothers in blue that invited the “rioters” in.

The intrusions to the actual house/senate chambers were on par with the post-term abortion activist feminists that battled their way in during the Supreme Court nominee hearings since 2016.

the 1/6 panty raid remains an Soros-agitator/fed-glowie lead pied piper exercise to get dumb Q-boomers into cringy situations so the media could dunk on Trump nonstop. It was probably planned to be much much worse, evident by the resulting media and congressional playbook to be blown more Out of proportion. It WAS visually impressive to see the right wing stand up after hundreds of left wing BLM and other spergout riots all summer long. I was highly entertained by seeing the scared congressmen panicked and tweeting their final toetsiens while wearing their fucking inflatable bubble helmets scurrying like rats for the hidden escape tunnels.

“the riot is the voice of the oppressed” w/stte
-Representative Cortez NY-D

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Unarmed MAGA girl is a threat to Trump’s hand picked second in command. Right.....

How did they know she was unarmed?

It wasn't just her, but a bunch of QAnoners looking to overturn the election results and/or kill certain members of congress, too.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

How did they know she was unarmed?

It wasn't just her, but a bunch of QAnoners looking to overturn the election results and/or kill certain members of congress, too.

How did the capitol police know that insane shrieking abortion supporters were unarmed when trying to break the doors down during the previous scotus nominee approval hearings?

Why didn’t the police just assume that all the other protesters with Babbit were armed and gun them down as well?

Face it. The dumb cop flinched. He also left his issued handgun in a capitol bathroom a few years ago, which made the news. He’s a sloppy cop on a police force that answers only to a corrupt body. They are basically mall cops with guns. Patronage system to get in.


Nobody wanted to kill, members of Congress. They just wanted their 15 minutes to Reeeeeeeee after seeing the angry Trust fund agitators half an inch from scaling the White House fence a few months before. They wanted to be heard. Nothing more.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

How did the capitol police know that insane shrieking abortion supporters were unarmed when trying to break the doors down during the previous scotus nominee approval hearings?

Why didn’t the police just assume that all the other protesters with Babbit were armed and gun them down as well?

Face it. The dumb cop flinched. He also left his issued handgun in a capitol bathroom a few years ago, which made the news. He’s a sloppy cop on a police force that answers only to a corrupt body. They are basically mall cops with guns. Patronage system to get in.

Were the abortion supporters warned by police and the secret service?

It's an apples to oranges comparison, you're only upset at this one because it's a white woman who worships a career grifter like you do.

Nobody wanted to kill, members of Congress. They just wanted their 15 minutes to Reeeeeeeee after seeing the angry Trust fund agitators half an inch from scaling the White House fence a few months before. They wanted to be heard. Nothing more.

Bullshit. They had zip ties and were looking for Pelosi and AOC. Your fellow Trump simps wanted to overturn the election results because they were upset that the conman they (and you) worship lost.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

Were the abortion supporters warned by police and the secret service?

It's an apples to oranges comparison, you're only upset at this one because it's a white woman who worships a career grifter like you do.


Bullshit. They had zip ties and were looking for Pelosi and AOC. Your fellow Trump simps wanted to overturn the election results because they were upset that the conman they (and you) worship lost.

Yes.

I’m not upset. Rather, amused. The duplicity can be enraging at times. But this hilarious soros funded fed glowie/Larping lefty/q-booomer collab simply confirms how corrupt the system and media is. The dumb Q Boomers needed a wake up call. But she didn’t deserve to die (neither did Floyd). You shouldn’t attempt to lump everyone who objects to the narrative in the same box as the Zognald worshipping Q dummies. It was a bad shoot by an undertrained and documented sloppy cop (lucky he didn’t leave his gun in the shitter again). But the preceding capitol disruptions and BLM riots set the precedent for direct action.

one single glowie-activated simpleton had zip ties, but no weapons. Big deal. He thought it would look intimidating just like the black wearing trustafarians building umbrellas walls so they can have their friends hide and swing a skateboard at some cop’s face.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Yes.

I’m not upset. Rather, amused. The duplicity can be enraging at times. But this hilarious soros funded fed glowie/Larping lefty/q-booomer collab simply confirms how corrupt the system and media is. The dumb Q Boomers needed a wake up call. But she didn’t deserve to die (neither did Floyd). You shouldn’t attempt to lump everyone who objects to the narrative in the same box as the Zognald worshipping Q dummies. It was a bad shoot by an undertrained and documented sloppy cop (lucky he didn’t leave his gun in the shitter again). But the preceding capitol disruptions and BLM riots set the precedent for direct action.

one single glowie-activated simpleton had zip ties, but no weapons. Big deal. He thought it would look intimidating just like the black wearing trustafarians building umbrellas walls so they can have their friends hide and swing a skateboard at some cop’s face.

Did you miss the cops being assaulted by the rioters, too? Ashli played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. They wanted an insurrection and she paid the ultimate price

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Which riot are we talking about again? I saw cops being assaulted in riots for 8 months. I’m under the impression from direct observation that there are no concequences to launching rocks, wet concrete mix, or fireworks at “pigs”.

They wanted their voices heard. An insurrection involves guns and organizing. This lacked both from the standpoint of the actual “Trump supporters”. She paid the ultimate price because some lazy undertrained cop didn’t forget his gat in the shitter that day, and shot a persistent loud woman in the neck. 5 cops couldn’t hold back 8 people. Sad!

Are we going to keep going round and round so you get the last word mate?

keep wishing this glowie/Larping antifa pied piper event was on the level.

No one here is defending the BLM riots, but there's a huge difference between people protesting that black people are getting killed by police and some idiots trying to get election results not certified because the conman they worship lost

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

No one here is defending the BLM riots, but there's a huge difference between people protesting that black people are getting killed by police and some idiots trying to get election results not certified because the conman they worship lost

There you are with the “Nuh uh” last word autism again.

It was glowing gayops. Some q boomers got wrapped up trying to prove a pint. Babbit didn’t deserve to be shot. There was no threat.

 

[Lou’s Biggest Fan]

There you are with the “Nuh uh” last word autism again.

It was glowing gayops. Some q boomers got wrapped up trying to prove a pint. Babbit didn’t deserve to be shot. There was no threat.

Hey you should kill yourself too, same as before preferably by finding the nearest Secret Service line and charging them despite them warning you repeatedly that if you tried to cross their line that they’d use lethal force. I know for a fact now it’d be even funnier than the first time.

Also shitposting aside I’d like to address your last point: are you really so fucking retarded that you actually think the trump banshee was contextually all by herself and completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of what was going on? You know very little about crowd control if that’s the case. If she was allowed to just hop over the barricade, the collective view of others will be that the barricade is just a suggestion and there’s no consequence for moving over it, and now you’ll have hundreds of tards pushing their own line straight up to where the officers were trying to protect VIPs. The defenders have now seen several cops beaten by people with thin blue line flags, gotten reports of tacticool spergs with zip ties with the intend of kidnapping the people they were sworn to protect, and they have the first of those tards trying to breach their last line. It’s standard procedure in a situation like that to use lethal force, especially after repeated warnings of lethal force, to make it clear the consequences for attempting to breach the last line are death to everybody else, causing the mob to back off from attempting to breach in to that important area instead of just walking in because they think there’s no consequences and overwhelming the officers through sheer numbers. Could they have done it anyway? Yeah, probably, but when one of your retarded number is now dead on the floor for trying it, everybody else is going to not want to be the first one to attempt to breach again, and when everybody is waiting for somebody else to breach, nobody breaches. Mission accomplished. Now go try it yourself and see what I mean, it’d be funny.

 

[FuckingDogs4Living]

Really? I was under the assumption European police generally only deployed armed units when the suspect/attacker was reported as being armed, or suspected of having explosives. For knives and blunt instruments I figured they used numbers and tasers. You see clips of UK police swarming 20-30 officers with batons around one guy with a machete.

Only the UK police doesn’t carry pistols, practically all of the european police forces carry a weapon.

Lethal threats call for lethal response. Simple. Shooting at legs is not effective in real world situations. Shoot to stop threats is logically shoot to kill under the assumption that it is you or them that dies.

Lmao, I saw plenty of footage where american police shoots people who try to run, or punch them, or hit them with a stick.

Should a situation like this happen in Europe, our policemen would just shoot to incapacitate, not to kill. Your retards seem to hold no value for the sanctity of the human life. Especially since most of the time people they shoot are mentally unwell.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

Only the UK police doesn’t carry pistols, practically all of the european police forces carry a weapon.

And when they do carry, it’s quite the load out. Which is odd. It’s like the heavily armed cops with HK G36 and Glock 17 have to swoop in guns blazing to save the unarmed bobbies.

but they still know how to deal with recalcitrant assholes unlike American cops. But they don’t have to face the gigga thugs we have

Lmao, I saw plenty of footage where american police shoots people who try to run, or punch them, or hit them with a stick.

Should a situation like this happen in Europe, our policemen would just shoot to incapacitate, not to kill. Your retards seem to hold no value for the sanctity of the human life. Especially since most of the time people they shoot are mentally unwell.

I doubt they are trying to incapacitate. They probably are just bad shots.

You try kneecapping someone hitting you with a hickory axe handle. Good luck. I’ll discharge into center mass until the threat is done

 

[Lou’s Biggest Fan]

Lmao, I saw plenty of footage where american police shoots people who try to run, or punch them, or hit them with a stick.

Should a situation like this happen in Europe, our policemen would just shoot to incapacitate, not to kill. Your retards seem to hold no value for the sanctity of the human life. Especially since most of the time people they shoot are mentally unwell.

In something like over 98% of situations just drawing a gun is enough to immediately deescalate a situation when it comes to civilian self defense situations, because most people, even criminals attempting to do harm, know that for a regular person, even a justified shooting is likely going to see them in jail wasting their life savings trying to defend themselves a second time, and so nobody actually wants to fire, meaning that if the assailant simply backs off, they’ll get to walk away with their life. Meanwhile American police escalate things immediately to lethal force under even flagrantly unnecessary circumstances, often without warning. And so if you’re a police officer, most people know that you’ll be free to kill them with impunity, and most people would rather do anything they can to live, and so as a result cops have essentially shit their bed, refuse to clean it, and then wonder why they keep getting shit on them.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

Hey you should kill yourself too, same as before preferably by finding the nearest Secret Service line and charging them despite them warning you repeatedly that if you tried to cross their line that they’d use lethal force. I know for a fact now it’d be even funnier than the first time.

Also shitposting aside I’d like to address your last point: are you really so fucking retarded that you actually think the trump banshee was contextually all by herself and completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of what was going on? You know very little about crowd control if that’s the case. If she was allowed to just hop over the barricade, the collective view of others will be that the barricade is just a suggestion and there’s no consequence for moving over it, and now you’ll have hundreds of tards pushing their own line straight up to where the officers were trying to protect VIPs. The defenders have now seen several cops beaten by people with thin blue line flags, gotten reports of tacticool spergs with zip ties with the intend of kidnapping the people they were sworn to protect, and they have the first of those tards trying to breach their last line. It’s standard procedure in a situation like that to use lethal force, especially after repeated warnings of lethal force, to make it clear the consequences for attempting to breach the last line are death to everybody else, causing the mob to back off from attempting to breach in to that important area instead of just walking in because they think there’s no consequences and overwhelming the officers through sheer numbers. Could they have done it anyway? Yeah, probably, but when one of your retarded number is now dead on the floor for trying it, everybody else is going to not want to be the first one to attempt to breach again, and when everybody is waiting for somebody else to breach, nobody breaches. Mission accomplished. Now go try it yourself and see what I mean, it’d be funny.

Lol the edit to post all that reddit

 

[Lou’s Biggest Fan]

You don’t draw unless you intend to shoot. Drawing is a good way to get shot or charged with brandishing.

It is vastly easier to get away from a situation in self defense when nobody has been shot dead and a hell of a lot cheaper to defend yourself against a brandishing charge than it is a homicide charge. You’ve never actually been in a firearm-involved self defense scenario have you? And intent to shoot and actually shooting are two different things. A threat immediately stopping and no longer becoming a threat and then you shooting anyway is a good way to get your self defense claim thrown out.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

It is vastly easier to get away from a situation in self defense when nobody has been shot dead and a hell of a lot cheaper to defend yourself against a brandishing charge than it is a homicide charge. You’ve never actually been in a firearm-involved self defense scenario have you? And intent to shoot and actually shooting are two different things. A threat immediately stopping and no longer becoming a threat and then you shooting anyway is a good way to get your self defense claim thrown out.

You don’t know anything about this topic.

 

[JaneThough]

You don’t know anything about this topic.

Ditto