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What is it with you fucking retard conspiracy tards not knowing basic math and not knowing how to read.

So this is the study that blomberg links to.
Link to the study.

And here is the math i did in a earlier post


So 6 fold sounds BAD if you dont know basic fucking math.
BUT HEY i guess shit tier politisperg don't know how to fucking do research, instead they puke op what ever sounds like it would fit there agenda.
Even in your own numbers you fucking admit previous infection is better protection than the vax.
Why so assmad?
 
I've scrolled through the last dozen pages of this thread to figure out if someone posted this already, so you could say I'm feeling pretty blackpilled.

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Here's the part of the article where he says it:
“The question raised is should it be shorter than eight months? Should it be as little as five months? That’s being discussed. I spoke with Dr. Fauci this morning about that,” Biden said in the Oval Office during a visit from Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett.

Then again, Biden can't remember what he had for breakfast, so I doubt he remembers much of what was discussed with Fauci.

I know it probably won't change anyone's minds, but it feels somewhat vindicating to hear that the precious Vaccine isn't nearly as good as the Science worshippers say it is.

But this...
Imagine priming your immune system with an outdated antigen from the vaccine. Once IVM and its metabolites are excreted, it's gone from your body forever. Vaccine, on the other hand, leaves behind memory cells and antibodies. And even if you get COVID, your body will recall "old" antibodies instead of issuing "updated" ones, which can become a problem if the virus becomes vaccine-resistant.

This frightens me.

I just want to clarify before I start panicking: does this mean that having the first shot (or first two shots) makes the body worse at fighting future variants of the virus? Potentially creating a dependence on booster shots to get that immunity back? And if so, would that dependence necessarily be lifelong?

Also...
Kinda like those lil' tags people put on their pets' collars.

I was thinking, maybe Covid is a way of controlling the population, but not by sterilizing anyone. More like -

Person 1 - *sneezes*
Person 2 - Oh God! Are you sick? More importantly is it contagious? Please stay away from me!
Person 1 - Ew, selfish! *leaves Person 2*
Person 2 - *now has to find new date and start all over*

I think it would be more like:

Person 1 - *sneezes*
Person 2 - Oh God! Are you sick?
Person 1 - Don't worry. I'm vaccinated. Aren't you?
Person 2 - No, why would that--
Person 1 - Ew, selfish! *leaves Person 2*
Person 2 - *now has to find new date and start all over*

the south park pandemic special was surprisingly based tbh

Wasn't every other joke in that episode about zoonotic transmission? I don't remember anything beyond a few unsympathetic characters (Butters' dad) saying the precautions were unnecessary? And when Fauci apeared towards the end of that episode, wasn't he portrayed as a reasonable figure who the townspeople were irratonally angry at, rather than the falsely idolised scumbag he is in real life?

Or were you referring to the 2021 vaccination special? Because the main story conflict in that was the kids and young adults couldn't get vaccinated fast enough and wanted to cut in line before the old folks? The kids attempts to steal vaccines were only ever implied to be wrong because their parents needed the vaccines too. And the only characters who didn't want vaccines were the cartoonishly insane QAnon conspiracy theorists, who the episode went out of its way to make us hate. And in case it wasn't obvious enough, the animators themselves turned one of them into a giant talking penis in order to further humiliate the QAnon-ers and every position they hold (including being against the vaccination).

They make a couple of jokes about Israel, so... based? But that's my only faint praise.

One of my friends picked these two episodes to introduce me to the show. Did he pick the wrong ones? Or are they all like this?
 
Even in your own numbers you fucking admit previous infection is better protection than the vax.
Why so assmad?
Because you fuckers don't understand math.

I don't want to get Covid to avoid getting Covid, you idiot. You are right it is far better to have had coivd to fight off Covid, but i will take the less then 1.5% chance of getting Covid with the vaccine over having to get fucking covid.
 
Because you fuckers don't understand math.

I don't want to get Covid to avoid getting Covid, you idiot. You are right it is far better to have had coivd to fight off Covid, but i will take the less then 1.5% chance of getting Covid with the vaccine over having to get fucking covid.
So if I already had COVID, why the fuck do I need to bother with the vaccine?
 
I just want to clarify before I start panicking: does this mean that having the first shot (or first two shots) makes the body worse at fighting future variants of the virus? Potentially creating a dependence on booster shots to get that immunity back? And if so, would that dependence necessarily be lifelong?
The vaccines increase the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, etc.

That's how you create lifetime customers of your drug company out of healthy people, like the transsexual lobby.
 
Wasn't every other joke in that episode about zoonotic transmission? I don't remember anything beyond a few unsympathetic characters (Butters' dad) saying the precautions were unnecessary? And when Fauci apeared towards the end of that episode, wasn't he portrayed as a reasonable figure who the townspeople were irratonally angry at, rather than the falsely idolised scumbag he is in real life?

Or were you referring to the 2021 vaccination special? Because the main story conflict in that was the kids and young adults couldn't get vaccinated fast enough and wanted to cut in line before the old folks? The kids attempts to steal vaccines were only ever implied to be wrong because their parents needed the vaccines too. And the only characters who didn't want vaccines were the cartoonishly insane QAnon conspiracy theorists, who the episode went out of its way to make us hate. And in case it wasn't obvious enough, the animators themselves turned one of them into a giant talking penis in order to further humiliate the QAnon-ers and every position they hold (including being against the vaccination).

They make a couple of jokes about Israel, so... based? But that's my only faint praise.

One of my friends picked these two episodes to introduce me to the show. Did he pick the wrong ones? Or are they all like this?
I haven't seen the vaccination special but butters' dad was supposed to be a mask Nazi in the pandemic special and when the kids asked if things could go back to normal with the cure the scientist started talking about how we have to adapt to a new normal before being killed mid-sentence. Also your friend is an idiot and should've showed you something like super fun time or good times with weapons (a couple of my favorite episodes)
 
The vaccines increase the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, etc.

That's how you create lifetime customers of your drug company out of healthy people, like the transsexual lobby.
But thats a conspiracy from boomers that think people don't understand the family guy cancer skit

 
I wonder how long these monoclonal antibodies florida is doing stay in your system?
If they're anything like the ones used to treat autoimmune disorders they could hang around up to six months from the last dose, though that's after being at a maintenance dose and they typically need to be given more frequently in the beginning so they can accumulate in the body. If someone only gets one or two IVs then it could clear much more quickly.
 
This frightens me.

I just want to clarify before I start panicking: does this mean that having the first shot (or first two shots) makes the body worse at fighting future variants of the virus? Potentially creating a dependence on booster shots to get that immunity back? And if so, would that dependence necessarily be lifelong?
Antigenic sin will likely make boosters useless bc they won't be able to overwrite existing immune memory (like they can't do it right now in previously infected individuals). Several consecutive booster shots may do the trick, but no one really knows.
Natural infection will eventually overwrite immune memory, but in the best case it will lead to delayed immune response (and suppressed innate antibodies, probably), and in the worst case it'll cause ADE.
As for longevity of immunity, people had their anti-SARS-1 and MERS antibodies recalled by SARS-2 infection. That's 20 and 8 years, respectively.
Vaccine manufacturers most likely know about antigenic sin, but they'll keep their mouths shut and try to sell as many vaccines as they can and politicians/public health officials are too incompetent and/or entangled in bureaucracy to change course.
His party's ratings are Ridin' with Biden, thus virtue signaling. Will be reversed/forgotten after Sept, 19.
 
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Edit: @Abominacione Weird how searching for Japan+ivermectin does not bring this up on google. At least not for me https://archive.vn/TrHgQ (Feb 9th 2021) . Here is the more recent video that briefly flashed in the alt-right news cycle.
actually Japan+ivermectin doesnt yield results about approval either.
that rung a bell so I specifically looked for Japan+ivermectin+greenlight to see who was posting this stuff and it's all the same suspects like r/ivermectin + noname websites with very similar wording(oddly a lot of them use the word "greenlight"), which means either bad journalism or automatically generated articles, basically theyre all referencing each other, still cant find official links, video of the event has not been found.
since there's no shortage of ivermectin supporters even in the cucked rightwing msm, you think they'd jump at this story from half a month ago now.

that "recent video" is the one from february, the japanese doctor did say that they should start using IV in some cases with the informed consent of the patient.
me think this story is a dud, it took a base of truth and made up its conclusion, pretty much textbook fake news.

nhk (japan's public media) about iv:
some jap explains the situation:
 
actually Japan+ivermectin doesnt yield results about approval either.
that rung a bell so I specifically looked for Japan+ivermectin+greenlight to see who was posting this stuff and it's all the same suspects like r/ivermectin + noname websites with very similar wording(oddly a lot of them use the word "greenlight"), which means either bad journalism or automatically generated articles, basically theyre all referencing each other, still cant find official links, video of the event has not been found.
since there's no shortage of ivermectin supporters even in the cucked rightwing msm, you think they'd jump at this story from half a month ago now.

that "recent video" is the one from february, the japanese doctor did say that they should start using IV in some cases with the informed consent of the patient.
me think this story is a dud, it took a base of truth and made up its conclusion, pretty much textbook fake news.

nhk (japan's public media) about iv:
some jap explains the situation:
Here is the video from Aug 13th https://youtu.be/SZ_DPgke7jI
Measures to prevent the spread of new coronavirus infectious diseases, etc.-In response to the rapid increase in infected people-

① Greetings and general remarks (Haruo Ozaki, Chairman of the Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association)
From this conference https://www.tokyo.med.or.jp/press_conference/tmapc20210813

edit: all of the deboonking is focused on ivermectin not being approved for treating covid yet in Japan. That is true, but does not mean it isn't being used in Japan. I have not found a translation of the Aug 13th video yet.

edit: @Abominacione Nevermind found the video translated: https://twitter.com/FonzyDizzle/status/1429824858825715717?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1430952808728055808|twgr^|twcon^s3_&ref_url=https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1431339779703017477.html It also has another Japanese doctor talking about the results he is seeing. Very interesting.

summary: two very positive accounts of ivermectin, with the caveat that it is still too early to tell but very promising.

 
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