Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

I'm one minute in and idk if it's the weird 50s housewife cooking getup but I finally found out what his voice makes me think of. Julia Child. Yes, a woman. But one with such a ridiculous voice people who've never seen her usually assume she puts on a funny voice for... the lulz I guess? But it's bad. I mean, if even Meryl can't quite get it to sound not ridiculous, then Olly sure as hell can't.
 
Also funny that he played some ditzy version of a girlboss pinkwashed corporation, considering most of the people who run the multibillion dollar and multinational companies that make everyone's lives miserable are men. He was obviously trying to make fun of "girlboss capitalism", but it wasn't particularly salient or interesting, especially considering the character of ridicule was a rich graduate of an elite university, reliant on wealth and privilege, who is delusionally out of touch— does that ring any bells?
Also he’s talked a lot about how “hot” he finds American accents to be, so I felt like the whole thing was an excuse for him to engage in his AG fantasies.
 
Also he’s talked a lot about how “hot” he finds American accents to be, so I felt like the whole thing was an excuse for him to engage in his AG fantasies.
This is very dark, but while watching parts of the video I couldn't help but wonder if him talking about suffering from an eating disorder and the weight of female beauty standards fueled his AGP. I mean we know his Muslim friend "Alice" gets off on being oppressed.
 
(He also talks about himself as if he's thin which in itself is a funny thing to see— he looks like an oaf regardless of whatever third rate female impersonation he's doing.)
He says as much in the end 'I have thin privilege as long as I stay thin'. Seriously, he's got to be joking, no? I mean, is it just me? I'm not one to want anyone looking like Cindy Crawford's daughter, far from. But I can only describe his body as 'kind of tubby'. Have I missed something or is that what is called 'thin' now?
 
Oliver dabs the sweat from his brow under the lighting set up in the airbnb kitchen hes currently stood in, his cock and balls awkwardly clenched between his ever touching thighs. His abdomen spills over his belt under the apron and his bingo-wings strain the arms of his Evans plus-size knitwear collection sweater. He gathers himself and says "As an actor I find myself pressured to maintain a svelte appearance" as his jowl wobbles with every movement of his mouth.
 
He says as much in the end 'I have thin privilege as long as I stay thin'. Seriously, he's got to be joking, no? I mean, is it just me? I'm not one to want anyone looking like Cindy Crawford's daughter, far from. But I can only describe his body as 'kind of tubby'. Have I missed something or is that what is called 'thin' now?
The SJW types compare themselves to people who are built like ALR and Chantal and Sagi. If they're not as big, they think they're thin.


Remember this is also the same group that believes in pregnant men so...
 
If she has an eating disorder it’s not showing.

It’s not like legit anorexia nervosa just the boring bpd/NPD shtick of obsessing over appearance and identity and having a phase of restrictive eating that usually goes nowhere. So fucking tiresome.
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is this not like exactly lifted from a contrapoints video scene.

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He says as much in the end 'I have thin privilege as long as I stay thin'. Seriously, he's got to be joking, no? I mean, is it just me? I'm not one to want anyone looking like Cindy Crawford's daughter, far from. But I can only describe his body as 'kind of tubby'. Have I missed something or is that what is called 'thin' now?
This is so hilarious. He is so delusional.

“kind of tubby” is spot on
 
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Another thing that stood out for me is he evokes the “black women are like trans women” thing again. He mentioned a YouTuber who is dark skinned who said she makes a point of appearing with feminine clothes etc when on camera because she thinks she will be perceived as masculine because of her dark skin. Which, whatever, maybe she does feel that way. But Olly extrapolates from that that it’s the same problem for troons. He says they have to remain thin lest they be perceived as masculine. I just think it’s amazing how an avowed (white) leftist trys to equate himself with blacks.

I was also surprised that he had that life size cutout of Nigella because he of course TOWERS over it. I thought he looked especially dude-like throughout this video. That jaw and mouth clock him so hard. He seems to eschew make up for the facing-the-mirror scenes. Looks horrible.

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have you noticed how he’s only actually nice when he’s talking to/about himself, or to people he thinks are sufficiently high profile?
even that Vidcon answer was brusque and like ‘well you should have known that’ there are many other ways in as few words to inform that it’s been cancelled without once again being flippant at best, dismissive at worst.
that new selfie- well every new selfie, is fucking hilarious when you think what he actually looks like a La ‘Ian! God, i’m so sorry’.

I find this with a lot of YouTubers. I genuinely think its from a lack of life skills/experience.

I correspond with a lot of people using text based mediums, for my work, and I would never speak to someone the way some of these mouthbreathers do. On the flipside, the replies I receive are generally respectful too.

For all the waffling YouTubers do about it being their job... They're very lacking in the execution.

Slight power level too. I know for a fact people in the media will not stand for you being a cunt to them. They have a plethora of people wanting to do what Olly does. They'll just move on to the next candidate for 'Large lady in Bar #2'.
 
Another thing that stood out for me is he evokes the “black women are like trans women” thing again. He mentioned a YouTuber who is dark skinned who said she makes a point of appearing with feminine clothes etc when on camera because she thinks she will be perceived as masculine because of her dark skin. Which, whatever, maybe she does feel that way. But Olly extrapolates from that that it’s the same problem for troons. He says they have to remain thin lest they be perceived as masculine. I just think it’s amazing how an avowed (white) leftist trys to equate himself with blacks.

I was also surprised that he had that life size cutout of Nigella because he of course TOWERS over it. I thought he looked especially dude-like throughout this video. That jaw and mouth clock him so hard. He seems to eschew make up for the facing-the-mirror scenes. Looks horrible.

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wow, so thin.
‘’ He says they have to remain thin lest they be perceived as masculine.’’
i mean, that’s true, someone did a good breakdown of it pages back now, but like..it’s about changing what you can to make the best of what you can’t, and surely eating a bit less is less harmful a means of transitioning than cutting your dick off and taking hormones but waah wah.
also, tell the rest of the fat shapeless potatoe Aimee Channelor type trans of whom there are legion, that they are supposed to be worrying about their weight. tell them to do something about their hair too. just possessing long flat yet frizzy mousy hair doesn’t do anything for femininity.
it’s always these fat lumps with that hair, jammed into awful tight leggings and those little pumps lasses stopped wearing in 2007

Slight power level too. I know for a fact people in the media will not stand for you being a cunt to them. They have a plethora of people wanting to do what Olly does. They'll just move on to the next candidate for 'Large lady in Bar #2'.
(sorry for double post, but)
yup. olly talks. WAY too much.
huffing about this lgbt award will turn out to be a big miscalculation- they’ll not really have wanted him but he mobilised to get himself nominated and they had to respect the numbers. now he’s pulling out to make them look like cunts- i think that will have slammed a few doors and got people talking, because it’s obvious as shit what the game is.

If we can see this grift, then some of the intelligent, less shitlib types up various ladders will see too.
he talks too much- about every thing.
doesn’t know the meaning of the word discretion- the nigella thing again, will have its little rumblings.
they way he’s got so coomer brained as to chat about and hang about with sexual degenerates- how many actual respected actors and industry personalities let that kind of thing be known?
He’s on a narc joyride at the moment and is too wrapped up in his shitty rip offs of contrapoints (and making some decent money- now) to quite notice the damage he’s doing to his other options with his own big mouth.
when stuff slows down a little bit with his own productions and he gets panned in this django thing as flavour of the month (i doubt anything more will be forthcoming)
he’ll be high and dry.
then he’ll detransition as a last ditch attention grab- OR do whatever only fans replacement is in place by then. this is actually more likely than the first option.
 
Slight power level too. I know for a fact people in the media will not stand for you being a cunt to them. They have a plethora of people wanting to do what Olly does. They'll just move on to the next candidate for 'Large lady in Bar #2'.
yup. olly talks. WAY too much.
huffing about this lgbt award will turn out to be a big miscalculation- they’ll not really have wanted him but he mobilised to get himself nominated and they had to respect the numbers. now he’s pulling out to make them look like cunts- i think that will have slammed a few doors and got people talking, because it’s obvious as shit what the game is.
If we can see this grift, then some of the intelligent, less shitlib types up various ladders will see too.
he talks too much- about every thing.
doesn’t know the meaning of the word discretion- the nigella thing again, will have its little rumblings.
they way he’s got so coomer brained as to chat about and hang about with sexual degenerates- how many actual respected actors and industry personalities let that kind of thing be known?
He’s on a narc joyride at the moment and is too wrapped up in his shitty rip offs of contrapoints (and making some decent money- now) to quite notice the damage he’s doing to his other options with his own big mouth.
when stuff slows down a little bit with his own productions and he gets panned in this django thing as flavour of the month (i doubt anything more will be forthcoming)
he’ll be high and dry.
then he’ll detransition as a last ditch attention grab- OR do whatever only fans replacement is in place by then. this is actually more likely than the first option.
There's actually a LONG tangent in his last livestream where he touched on this, saying that above all else the most important piece of advice he has received was to get a reputation for being good to work with. He mentions that this was a piece of advice that his dad gave him when he was young.
"No matter what you do, no matter what career you end up in, no matter what your job is- the most important thing you can ever have, for your career, is a reputation for being good to work with. That is the most valuable thing. It's not really luck, it's not even really talent. There are some actors - that if you go and see a stage play - you will occasionally see a professional stage play where there's like one person in the cast and you're like 'well i don't know why they're in there like, they seem to not be on the same level', and that's usually because that person is really really nice and they are great to work with. And the same is absolutely true of Youtube, like I have been in rooms where big professional opportunities are being discussed and someone is like "oh should we get this Youtuber?" and someone else goes "no no no no no- not working with them, completely unprofessional like he's been doing some really weird tweets" or "oh god no you don't want to work with her, like she's just really unpredictable" or "we sent her an email for a project like three months ago and she never emailed me back, like she strung us along". The best thing you have is a reputation for being good to work with. So, make sure you've got one. And there are youtubers - I need to be careful with what I say here - like every career has it's rise and fall, it's natural. Like I'm at a million subscribers now but that's not going to last forever and at some stage the channel is going to start leveling off. So like when that happens, when you go on your way down, that's when you will need your reputation most. Because you can shoot to the top being an asshole to everyone and cultivating a reputation for being like horrible and nasty and combative, but then when you go- no one is going to be there to catch you. And when you will fall you will fall HARD, because everyone around you has been WAITING for you to fall. And there are big name youtubers now who - I won't name - but like when they go, they'll go hard. Because everyone is waiting for them to go, and they're like "fucking 'ell you don't want to work with so and so" or "jesus christ you don't want to be around that person when they're in one of their moods". So.... gotta have a reputation for being good to work with. That's the most important thing, and you don't just want a reputation for being good to work with - you want to actually be good to work with as well. Gotta be professional."

He goes on but I've already written out 500 words, it's more of the same really except he adds this: "don't burn bridges unless you're sure you can swim".
Kinda have to wonder how much of it is a subtle dig at Contra, but again all of Olly's 'cautionary tales' inadvertently apply to Nyk.
 
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