Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

[Random Internet Person]

That's a cute human interest story, but it doesn't change anything. It doesn't justify staying in, or returning to, Afghanistan. It also doesn't justify the 20 years wasted there either.

Nobody's saying it does or did, only that there's a way Afghan life changed and is going to change, and probably a challenge to how the Taliban led country will be seen.

 

[Tree]

 

[KingCoelacanth]

Nobody's saying it does or did, only that there's a way Afghan life changed and is going to change, and probably a challenge to how the Taliban led country will be seen.

If the Afghani people liked the changes to their lives that occured under western occupation, they would've done more against the taliban's rise of power, other than just let them have the country.
The puppet government and its values weren't as popular with the people of the country as western propaganda lets on. The taliban is not going to be challenged because of the issue of women playing a sport of foreign origin.

 

[Niggernerd]

If the Afghani people liked the changes to their lives that occured under western occupation, they would've done more against the taliban's rise of power, other than just let them have the country.
The puppet government and its values weren't as popular with the people of the country as western propaganda lets on. The taliban is not going to be challenged because of the issue of women playing a sport of foreign origin.

The excuse neocon shills like ben shapiro use to justify being assblasted about leaving Afghanistan is "da Afghan military was made to centered around American air superiority"
Sounds like a retarded plan if America wasn't planning on staying forever like the DC goons said we weren't throughout the 20 years.

 

[Ishtar]

The only people who genuinely liked westernization where either the imported cosmopolitans of Kabul or those young enough and urban enough to be exposed to western culture, wealth, and norms and who didn’t remember the taliban at all.

That’s going to be a challenge for the Taliban no doubt, women who did get the idea in their heads they should vote, or boys who dreamed of being soccer superstars, but these were just urbanites of ages less than twenty. Will these people have their expectations re adjusted? Yes, will it be violent? Probably. Will they overthrow the Taliban? No.

Fact is, not even the most westernized youth of the country, took up arms for any of the supposed benefits of westernization.

 

[Niggernerd]

The only people who genuinely liked westernization where either the imported cosmopolitans of Kabul or those young enough and urban enough to be exposed to western culture, wealth, and norms and who didn’t remember the taliban at all.

That’s going to be a challenge for the Taliban no doubt, women who did get the idea in their heads they should vote, or boys who dreamed of being soccer superstars, but these were just urbanites of ages less than twenty. Will these people have their expectations re adjusted? Yes, will it be violent? Probably. Will they overthrow the Taliban? No.

Fact is, not even the most westernized youth of the country, took up arms for any of the supposed benefits of westernization.

The west makes complacent pussies. Who knew what with all the faggots and troons taking over and no one doing anything to save whatever dignity the US has left.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The west makes complacent pussies. Who knew what with all the faggots and troons taking over and no one doing anything to save whatever dignity the US has left.

And now you got people who WANT people like the ISIS and The Taliban to wreck Western shit just because it'd start a legit war and get people to learn to fight and die and weed out the weaklings in the name of Social Darwinism.

If the Afghani people liked the changes to their lives that occured under western occupation, they would've done more against the taliban's rise of power, other than just let them have the country.
The puppet government and its values weren't as popular with the people of the country as western propaganda lets on. The taliban is not going to be challenged because of the issue of women playing a sport of foreign origin.

The excuse neocon shills like ben shapiro use to justify being assblasted about leaving Afghanistan is "da Afghan military was made to centered around American air superiority"
Sounds like a retarded plan if America wasn't planning on staying forever like the DC goons said we weren't throughout the 20 years.

Honestly, I'd say the last month shows how outdated America sees countries, in that they have
A. Just clean house and set up a Western model like they did with 1945 Japan.
B. Organize coups behind the scenes to set up puppets who are in favor of American policies instead of communism, or work with resistance groups that fight against commie sympathizer regimes.

B has mostly fallen out of favor in the last decade or two, but since Washington is stuck in the Cold War, they take whatever they can from it and combine it with Option A....and here we are.

 

[дядя Боря]

The only people who genuinely liked westernization where either the imported cosmopolitans of Kabul or those young enough and urban enough to be exposed to western culture, wealth, and norms and who didn’t remember the taliban at all.

That’s going to be a challenge for the Taliban no doubt, women who did get the idea in their heads they should vote, or boys who dreamed of being soccer superstars, but these were just urbanites of ages less than twenty. Will these people have their expectations re adjusted? Yes, will it be violent? Probably. Will they overthrow the Taliban? No.

Fact is, not even the most westernized youth of the country, took up arms for any of the supposed benefits of westernization.

that would require some leadership + arms and training, otherwise they are no match for Taliban that was in business of war for a long while. Also, Talibs have no problem dying to rule, would ubanites die to drink Coca Cola?

 

[The Curmudgeon]

Nobody's saying it does or did, only that there's a way Afghan life changed and is going to change, and probably a challenge to how the Taliban led country will be seen.

Sure. Afghanis can either choose to be evacuated or join the Panjshir resistence if they hate the Taliban strongly enough. Ultimately, it's up to them. Only they can decide the fate of their own country. It's their problem.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

A former army major speaks

 

[DumbDude42]

Fact is, not even the most westernized youth of the country, took up arms for any of the supposed benefits of westernization.

of course not, the taliban takeover provides them the perfect opportunity/excuse to finally jump on that rapefugee gravy train themselves
why fight for your country and risk death when you can just go to sweden and get all the benefits of westernization for free, funded by local taxpayer money, without lifting a finger

 

[The Curmudgeon]

The United States and 97 other countries actually got the Taliban to agree with extending the evacuation timeline.

How much of the country do you guys think will evacuate?

 

[Tree]

Throughout history evil men have put in place the necessary prerequisites for bad things to happen, time and again, over and over, and not without being noticed. They've been expelled many times. But did they deserve it? It's not like they committed violence! Violence is obviously the most evil of things and everything else is just the free market. Sure, they funded certain organizations, decayed trust in traditional institutions, spread lies which pit countrymen against each another, rewrote laws to destabilize and gave power to the men who would later commit violence on their behalf, all the while their coffers filled, but surely, surely they've done no wrong. Surely, it's everyone else who is the problem. Surely what they teach you in school is the whole truth. Surely "not all" is a reason to do nothing at all.

And here we have a suspect "conclusion" to yet another conflict on the other side of the planet. At least this one wasn't ravaging Europe again. All those weapons left behind require replacing! All those weapons left behind arm a future conflict. All this disgrace is owned by the country. Accountability? I'm sure we can find someone to take the fall with insignificant impact. That's what we appoint these public figures for. Restructuring? Only if it harms the large Germanic American population. Ethnic warfare? By our elites? Impossible! But if it were happening, that's a good thing. It's not our fault the authoritarian personality is intrinsically German. Yes we came up with that term, we wrote the book on it, why do you ask?

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

The United States and 97 other countries actually got the Taliban to agree with extending the evacuation timeline.

How much of the country do you guys think will evacuate?

The Taliban stated that they wanted the IMF funds and gold bars in NY to be released before they would even begin to consider it. I'd love to see the terms of this agreement, likely the US government folded and released the funds.

 

[JosephStalin]

To clarify some points in the Lt Col's recent video:

1. He said he had a $2mil pension fund he was throwing away. This is 100% accurate. An O-5 would be expected to receive roughly $56,000 per year for the rest of their life upon retirement. $2mil would equal out to about 35 years down the road. He's not just spouting numbers and seems very coherent.

2. He is resigning commission 3 years before retirement. This is also true on several points. After your initial obligation you can resign commission whenever you feel. Seen it up and down the officer ranks, but most stay in a while to pad out a CV. You don't get a pension unless you put in at least 20 years. LTC here is aware of future consequences.

3. He said he was rejecting VA benefits. Regardless of retirement or resignation, anyone who gets out under honorable conditions is granted health and financial benefits from the VA. Again he is aware of future consequences.

4. LTC states that he is ready to burn the institution down should he have to. Expect a LOT of top brass suddenly embroiled in sex scandals in the coming months.

He's losing more than that. He's losing a chance to get arguably the best health insurance around, TRICARE, for himself and his family for a pittance ($50.50/month for a family of any size, premium increases limited by law to the same percentage of the annual cost-of-living allowance). Low copays, accepted all over. He's losing access to military commissaries and exchanges, too.

He needs to use his brains a little and apply for VA disability. Disability compensation is tax-free. After 17 years in the infantry one will most likely have compensatory conditions.

Like to think he discussed this with his wife before making the video. Likely she has a good job with benefits. But I see him as a man in demand by certain people, think he'll be gainfully employed very soon after leaving the Corps.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Joint Statement on Afghanistan Evacuation Travel Assurances - United States Department of State

We have received assurances from the Taliban that all foreign nationals and any Afghan citizen with travel authorization from our countries will be allowed to proceed in a safe and orderly manner to points of departure and travel outside the country.

www.state.gov

Reading the statement, its very light on particulars. Does this mean the military is out on the 31st and Americans can just go to the airport as its under Qatari + Turkish civilian control or does the military operation continue? What were the conditions to get this assurance? Very sketchy document with no meat on it.

 

[make_it_so]

Hopefully it squashes whatever good sentiments trumpers had for cops. The good ones already quit or were fired and only ones left are those that just see their job as a paycheck and don't question authoritative behavior from the higher ups across the country.

Edit: considering Baked Alaskas cringy cop song. Wonder if MAGApedes will stomp on baked if they see him

There are plenty of reasons to stomp on Baked Alaska.

 

[Ghostse]

The election had me till the cheating.

Given the stupidity and apathy of the American public, I’m starting to believe that maybe the election wasn’t stolen, or it was it doesn’t really matter.

That’s because it’s now very clear elections don’t actually change anything, if anyone does try to change things they get the full force of the system opposing them.

I said this in some other threads:
"There was some shady shit going on with the election returns that deserves serious investigation. The voting system is ripe for all sorts of abuse" and "Biden won the election; even if you corrected all the fraud he'd still be President"
Are not mutually exclusive thoughts. You can believe both.

Spoiler: Actual Case History

For everyone Ridin' with suckin' off Biden, let me point you to the case of Brenda Snipes.
Brenda Snipes was the election officer for heavy blue Bowden county in Florida. Brenda Snipes' office was caught, on video, throwing out uncounted votes. This was done so the county could hit reporting deadlines.

Brenda Snipes was a democrat, in a democratic county; Brenda Snipes didn't just commit voting fraud, she committed voting fraud that helped the opposing party which seemed to be why she believed she could get away with it. And she would have too; previous written reports went no where. Only someone making an (Illegal) recording and giving it to the media got action.

What happened to Brenda? She was suspended. Then reinstated. And then resigned, so she could could collect her $130,000 pension. ($60,000 of that was from her time as county election commissioner). And remember, this is Florida, this was not some deep blue Democratic conspiracy, this was the Republican governor letting her skate.

The reason that it is absolutely verboten to seriously suggest the election system is anything other than completely ironclad and sacrosanct is because if the proles realized that their votes were being fucked with - even to a degree that doesn't matter- they would be left with only option, and that would be to water the Ol' Liberty Tree (in Minecraft, of course).

The system is rotten and they protect their own.

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The Moslems were ramming thier penises into each others rectums on their own volition. The military was constantly trying to stop it, and it wasn't really working. It wasn't just the Afghanis. Its every fucking SEA muslim country. Manlove thursday is horrifyingly real.
Other than that, accurate.

If the Afghani people liked the changes to their lives that occured under western occupation, they would've done more against the taliban's rise of power, other than just let them have the country.
The puppet government and its values weren't as popular with the people of the country as western propaganda lets on. The taliban is not going to be challenged because of the issue of women playing a sport of foreign origin.

I think you really underestimate the complete lack of giving a fuck of the average Arab. I don't even know if you properly call it lazy, just the complete lack of desire to change their circumstances under the belief that who cares if women outside dress like whores, I am a man and I will run my house.

 

[Captain Wetbeard]

The United States and 97 other countries actually got the Taliban to agree with extending the evacuation timeline.

How much of the country do you guys think will evacuate?

That's just spin tbh, the IEA have been saying that for this entire time. They said that after the 1st Afghans will be able to travel normally, the 31st deadline is for removing military presence.

 

[Ghostse]

That's just spin tbh, the IEA have been saying that for this entire time. They said that after the 1st Afghans will be able to travel normally, the 31st deadline is for removing military presence.

Small correction: they were saying foreigners in the country would need to get IEA visas, etc, or be considered to be there illegally and risk arrest/charges for such.
Normal shit for any country (that isn't the US, that is).