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Interesting, there seem to be a few posts in the thread I can't hit reply to or quote.

Anyway, people are talking like DSP "draws" in his paypigs, but does he really? What does he do to draw them in exactly? Last I checked Phil isn't smart for getting as far as he has, in fact his lack of intelligence shows if you look at where he started to where he is now. No DSP just got lucky, he didn't do shit to draw in anyone, he wasn't courting paypigs, guy just set up his camera and started recording himself fucking around one day and as luck would have it an autism vortex formed around him. Phil isn't playing 4D chess, he's not even playing basic chess, hell he can't even handle checkers. Luck is the only factor that made DSP popular, luck is what got him his following, and luck is what keeps his fans around because he certainly does all he can to drive them away.

Really though? DSP's not dumb? The guy who jerked off on webcam and then said "Oh the camera's on huh?"? Really? He's not dumb by your measure?
 
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TheKatIsNowGone said:
Interesting, there seem to be a few posts in the thread I can't hit reply to or quote.
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lol. I couldn't quote yours just now. It's like a random page thing. It's not a blocked use type thing.
 
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I guess Philbert knows OIC's sock accounts. Also Phil, Youtube should be getting rid of streamers like you.
 

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wahkando said:
One minute man, silent Bob et AL aren't OIC. They are Jeff, swagginz or a similar older whale.
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I have a theory that OMM, SilentBob, etc... give like $1k per month and let Phil delegate how to separate those tips when he chooses. This would fit with how Jeff used to tip, and that he wanted to be anonymous after he got doxed.
 
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darkwingosonichugorl said:
This would fit with how Jeff used to tip, and that he wanted to be anonymous after he got doxed.
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Fun fact: SilentBob started tipping a few days after Planetjeff got doxed.

Another interesting thing is how is always one account tipping per day, but when there's a marathon or emergency stream, they all tip together, like when Jeff tipped multiple times to reach the 2k cat goal.
 
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wahkando said:
One minute man, silent Bob et AL aren't OIC. They are Jeff, swagginz or a similar older whale.

OIC is however gray wind, joo Dan Tae etc though.

Not sure if he is dovic, deviluk or Gary bkk but who really gives a shit
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He was Silent Bob on Monday. Phil said at the end of the stream something like “The top contributor is someone who tipped as Silent Bob.....” The real silent bob only tips $37 and the fake one tipped $50
 
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@Froggah You really are making Phil's streams boring as fuck. I guess that was your big plan after all, doing the same shit day-in-day-out; Keep withholding money until the last few minutes to bring Phil up to $100+. Bra-fuckin'-Vo, you made us seeth, we are punching air, we bow down to you all mighty OIC.

OIC YOU are the reason Phil's stream are boring shit.
 
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Something im actually curious about. Do you think he tips under not just different names, but different accounts?

If he tips under 1 account, Phil knows its OIC and mildly panics since such a large % of his income is from one guy

If he tips under multiple accounts (and keeps a spreadsheet of tip names and accounts, obv), Phil might be actually clueless as to how close he is to ruin and legitimately think these are all different people.

Would the resident autists gives me a rough idea how hard it would be to do this? Random thought I had
 
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DarkSoulsPhil said:
Something im actually curious about. Do you think he tips under not just different names, but different accounts?

If he tips under 1 account, Phil knows its OIC and mildly panics since such a large % of his income is from one guy

If he tips under multiple accounts (and keeps a spreadsheet of tip names and accounts, obv), Phil might be actually clueless as to how close he is to ruin and legitimately think these are all different people.

Would the resident autists gives me a rough idea how hard it would be to do this? Random thought I had
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He would most certainly need completely separate PayPal accounts if that's the case and planned to throw Phil off his trail for whatever reason (maybe if he's scared of what happened in that mod discord leak if he really doesn't want people to know who exactly he is, my guess is that he's tried to cover up his trail reasonably well), because even if you tipped through a different username via streamlabs or whatever, the receiver (Phil) will be able to see the email of the person who made that transaction and other details attached to that same email.

Now he could potentially be making throwaway Paypal accounts in order to pay with an unverified Paypal account, you can send and receive money, but there are spending limits attached to those accounts as far as I'm aware, but keep in mind this differs between countries, in some places their limit for sending/receiving money is rather high, but in others it's a lot lower.

Phil would therefore have no way in knowing who these people are if they decide to do this, I already imagine that this is how people have been able to do fraudulent charge backs with little to no consequences (ie. using a pre-loaded/pre paid credit would easily work, if they couldn't acquire stolen credit cards) in the past.

We have a good enough trail of evidence to suggest that OICuck resides on the western side of the United States, so he would have to comply with US financial institution laws regarding managing a Paypal account. I'm not from Burgerland myself, so some other kiwis can shed some light on the topic in regards to successfully using multiple PayPal accounts that are unverified in order to circumvent being traced by online merchant better than I can.
 
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DarkSoulsPhil said:
Something im actually curious about. Do you think he tips under not just different names, but different accounts?

If he tips under 1 account, Phil knows its OIC and mildly panics since such a large % of his income is from one guy

If he tips under multiple accounts (and keeps a spreadsheet of tip names and accounts, obv), Phil might be actually clueless as to how close he is to ruin and legitimately think these are all different people.

Would the resident autists gives me a rough idea how hard it would be to do this? Random thought I had
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I get the feeling that Philburt almost has to not know when OIC tips, for one simple reason: Phil keeps eyes on KF to some extent, so I'd assume he's probably aware this thread exists (or someone would tell him), and I think if he knew just a few of his whales are responsible for 75% of his tips and KF was potentially scaring them off he'd be throwing a fit about the site far more regularly. Every time one of his streams underperformed he'd be ranting about those no life loser conspiracy theorists on Kiwi Farms who have no positivity in their life, they're the scumbags, ok, coming after me is one thing but when you come after my fans you're done, fuck you, no really fuck you, I did nothing wrong/everything correct, etc, and if I'm not mistaken the main problems he's blaming on detractors recently are his lack of sponsors and Twitch departnering him (Twitch is a detractor organization, if you weren't aware).

As an aside I think Phil serves as a good example of why streamers limiting tips they'll accept per person can be beneficial for them in the long run. If just a handful of attention starved shut ins are constantly tipping huge amounts it's going to gradually push other people out of doing so until those few retards make up the majority of your income, then eventually once their family intervenes or they run out of cash or they get their head stuck in a bucket and suffocate or whatever you'll be totally screwed.
Of course Phil can't even be expected to plan ahead far enough to not starve if his Youtube money doesn't come in on time, so an idea like that would obviously be far beyond him.
 
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The dude probably uses virtual machines, separate Paypal accounts, digital card numbers and imaginary authorized users on his card accounts to make it look like for Phil it's a separate person. Wouldn't even be that hard.

For some banks, as long as you call and tell them a first and last name, they'll immediately add that as a cardholder to your account no questions asked. You could add that cardholder onto a digital/virtual card number into a pay wallet like Apple Pay immediately so you don't have to wait for a physical card. Making a throwaway email and Paypal is easy as fuck. Once they're made, attach it to that virtual card under the fake name, and then the Paypal transaction that Phil sees will be that fake name under that fake email, and nothing else. I don't know how Paypal would even catch wind if you're using VPNs and shit.

EDIT: This is only a theory. I'm not suggesting anyone do this ever for any reason.
 
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