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I think that Ivermectin was one of these unpredictable events. They didn't expect that some honest doctors will figure out a cure for the virus so quickly. It definitely diminishes the potential of scaring people with COVID. I also suspect that Ivermectin can to some extent diminish the negative impact of vax, but I wouldn't count on it.

They're going the full beat down on Ivermectin.


A Covid-positive person in Sydney was admitted to Westmead hospital suffering from vomiting and diarrhoea after overdosing on ivermectin and other drugs ordered online, as Australia’s chief medical officer pleads with the public not to take unproven medicine.
“There’s no evidence to support the use of ivermectin to treat Covid-19. Don’t look for magic cures online, and don’t rely on what’s being peddled on the internet, because none of them work.”

I've read and seen 5 stories in the Australia media just today about Ivermectin. "People are overdosing on horse dewormer". "Crazy conspiracy theorists are pushing a dangerous animal drug as a treatment for Covid". "People are going to vets and lying about sick animals to get their hands on Ivermectin". "Ivermectin is a super dangerous and toxic chemical that's used in farming, Covid deniers think it's better than the vaccines lol".

Someone has for sure sent the word out as these kind of media campaigns don't just happen by themselves. Ivermectin has not been on the normie radar at all but suddenly and for no discernible reason it's being given saturation coverage. I'm thinking some major news is about to drop. They're not worried that it won't work to treat Covid, they're worried that it will. They're looking to poison the well, make discussion of Ivermectin unacceptable in polite society, so even if irrefutable evidence comes out they can simply hand wave it away.

Looking at Australia, as they want to deanonymize the internet and to tie everything to a passport based on boosters, I presume, it's clear that this was the plan all along. But the narrative is frail at the edges, as the remedies exists, and there is no point to push the vax.

They know that making people get booster shots every 3 months and pop AIDS pills daily to ward of a bad cold will make their vaccine passports increasingly irrelevant as the majority of people are not going to go along. At the moment the vaccines have been sold on the basis that you get your jabs and everything will go back to normal. The announcements from the NSW and Victorian governments of what 'normal' will be has caused real anger. We're facing another 2 months of lockdown until we get to 70% vaccinated and then we might go back to a semi-lockdown with outdoor dining, mask wearing all the time and severe constraints on travel and socialising, and that's only for the vaccinated. This isn't what normie Australia was expecting and I've never heard so much expressed fury from talking to people when the news broke a couple of days ago, even compared to last year during the 3 month lockdown.
 
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This sounds like PrEP but for COVID-19.
There is currently a drug that's commonly used by gay men to prevent catching of HIV from the Brokeback tradition of condomless buttsex and oral sex. 1630598767212.png

The cost for a monthly supply of PrEP is almost $1,900, which is usually just paid by insurance by those who actually take it. I'm going to guess it may be similar. And based off of this, that a COVID-19 prophylaxis is going to be very profitable. Also it has a shitload of side effects.
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this isn't boiling the frog this is pouring molten lava on it
It's fucking amazing. I mean how can anyone with an IQ above 60 look at that and not think what the fuck is going on?

The vaccines are safe and effective but also the vaccinated must be kept separated from the dirty unvaxxed or else they'll catch Covid.

The vaccines give fantastic long term immunity, maybe even lifetime immunity but also you'll need a booster every 8, 6, 5 3 months.

This sounds like PrEP but for COVID-19.
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The cost for a monthly supply of PrEP is almost $1,900, which is usually just paid by insurance by those who actually take it. I'm going to guess it may be similar. And based off of this, that a COVID-19 prophylaxis is going to be very profitable.
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Yeah it's AIDS medication. They want to hand out AIDS meds to stop you catching a cold. They'll start prescribing it to the vulnerable at first, nursing homes, cancer patients, AIDS sufferers (oh the irony). Then they'll start pushing it to everyone because what a 'great success' it's been in preventing the coof. Soon enough your 8 year old will be expected to take their twice daily AIDS pill or no school. And it goes without saying the passport privileges will be tied to taking it as well. Fuck this timeline.
 
Is this a preventative pill or a pill that you take once you have covid. Either way what’s the point of any of it. From the article it seems like you only take it when you’re already sick. But then if the vaccine really worked why would they be making these pills. My brain hurts
We’re pleased to share we’ve started a Phase 2/3 study of our oral antiviral candidate—specifically designed to combat SARS-CoV-2—in non-hospitalized, low-risk adults: https://on.pfizer.com/38xBiAF

It's meant to be taken as a preventative, although I'm sure they'll be pushing it for acute cases as well.

The idea is you'll get vaccinated and then take your twice a day AIDS pill until your next booster.
 
They are desperate to "debunk" claims that India's surge in the Delta variation (which is basically where it started) was helped due to ivermectin. Already been debunked because...reasons. Probably horses or something.



Edit: In COMPLETELY unrelated news, the Sackler family didn't have to give up their entire fortune due to the opioid epidemic, and all of their settlement will probably mysteriously disappear in "treatment programs." You'll excuse me if I sound skeptical.


Among the families who lost children and other loved ones in the nation's opioid crisis, many had held out hope of someday facing OxyContin maker Purdue Pharma and its owners in a courtroom.

That prospect all but vanished Wednesday after a bankruptcy judge conditionally approved a settlement worth an estimated $10 billion. It was a deal that left many of those families feeling they didn't get what they really wanted.

There was no apology from members of the Sackler family who own Purdue Pharma, they weren’t forced to give up all of their vast fortune, and there was no chance to confront them face-to-face about the lives lost to opioids.

Instead, the individual victims, thousands of state and local governments and other entities that sued Purdue Pharma agreed to a deal in which the Sacklers will pay $4.5 billion and give up ownership of the company, which will be reorganized.

The company's profits and the Sacklers' contribution will go toward fighting opioid addiction through treatment and education programs. Also, victims of drug addiction can receive payments ranging from $3,500 to $48,000.

The conclusion to the case left families conflicted, deflated and still angry.

“Am I happy they don’t have to admit guilt and give up all their money? Of course not,” said Lynn Wencus, of Wrentham, Massachusetts. “But what would that do? It doesn’t bring my son back and it doesn’t help those who are suffering.”

In the first years after her son Jeff died of an overdose in 2017, all she wanted was vengeance. While her anger remains, she is hopeful the settlement will finally bring help to communities ravaged by overdoses.

“I know people disagree with that and want the Sacklers to suffer,” she said. “But the reality is we need money to get into the states, into education, into treatment.”

A half-million Americans have died from opioids over the past two decades, a toll that includes victims of prescription painkillers like OxyContin and Vicodin and illicit drugs such as heroin and street-grade fentanyl.

In one of the hardest-fought provisions in the settlement, the family will be protected from any future opioid lawsuits. While the Sacklers weren’t given immunity from criminal charges, there have been no indications they will face any.

Despite the settlement, the family could see its wealth rise from an estimated $10.7 billion to more than $14 billion over the coming decade, according to a group of state attorneys general who based their projection on investment returns and interest. Lawyers for Purdue and the Sackler family disputed the estimate.

“Their lives aren’t going to change. It’s a shame there can’t be something done that would make them suffer with the rest of us,” said Tamara Graham, of St. Petersburg, Florida.

But she was willing to accept the outcome because it gives her a sliver of hope that the money for treatment could save her youngest brother, who has struggled with addiction for longer than she can remember.

“I wish that I could stand up there,” she said. “I would love to make them watch a video of him going through withdrawals, the pain, the vomiting, him begging us to kill him.”

The settlement came nearly two years after the Stamford, Connecticut-based company filed for bankruptcy while facing some 3,000 lawsuits that accused Purdue of fueling the crisis by aggressively pushing sales of OxyContin.

“You don’t take the architects of the opioid crisis and give them a sweetheart deal,” said Ed Bisch, whose 18-year-old son died of an overdose nearly 20 years ago. “Where is the deterrent?”

Bisch, who has spent more than a decade pushing for the Sacklers to be criminally prosecuted, is leading a group of families that are asking the U.S. Justice Department to appeal the settlement.

“The Sacklers are buying immunity with blood money,” said Bisch, of Westampton, New Jersey. “The only silver lining is their name is mud, and it will forever be mud.”

Purdue Pharma will be reorganized into a new company with a board appointed by public officials and will funnel its profits into government-led efforts to prevent and treat opioid addiction.

The drugmaker said in a statement that the settlement will avert years of costly litigation and instead ensure that billions will go to help people and communities hurt by the crisis.

“I feel like the victims are once again at the bottom of the list,” said Dede Yoder, of Norwalk, Connecticut. “I don’t know what the states feel that their loss was. I can tell them what my loss is.”

Her only child, Chris, died of an overdose in 2017 when he was 21. He was first given OxyContin after knee surgeries as a teenager.

“I would have loved a moment in front of the Sacklers to show them pictures of my son as this beautiful boy and this happy, athletic, strong person that they decimated,” she said.

U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Robert Drain acknowledged the concerns of those who complained that the proposed payouts to victims are insufficient. He also pointed out that none of the four Sacklers who testified offered an explicit apology.

“A forced apology is not really an apology, so we will have to live without one,” he said.

The judge said he did not have “fondness for the Sacklers or sympathy for them” but he also said that drawn-out litigation would delay getting settlement money to victims and programs for treating opioid addiction.

“Now it’s its over. It’s done, just like our children’s lives,” said Vicki Meyer Bishop, of Clarksburg, Maryland, whose 45-year-old son, Brian Meyer, died four years ago.

She said she at least hopes the money will help open more spaces in treatment programs and lift the stigma surrounding addiction.

“We need to worry about the 200 who will die tomorrow. If the money can go to help them, it’s all worth it,” she said. “I’m hoping we can save 200 today, 200 tomorrow and the next day.”
 
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I don't know if this is the best place to do it but I need to vent. Schools need to lower the contact tracing threshold where I work. The absolute clusterfuck of in school learning starting 2 weeks ago and the amount of students forcibly getting pulled out is insane. Let me break it down how it is working right now.

1. Student with covid attends school
2. Student finds out they have covid, parents inform school.
3. Any other student that came within 6 feet of the positive student gets pulled out of school. This includes kids in the cafeteria, anyone they sit next to on the bus etc, basically a fuck ton of students.
4. School sends an email out to each of the possible contacts parents, informing them they cannot return to school until the health department finishes contact tracing.
5. School contacts health department, which starts tracing each possible student and giving the greenlight for them to each go back after a negative test.

Here's where the process breaks down, notice how I said fuck ton of students. The HD is not prepared for the volume of tracing that needs to happen. 24 hour turn around has turned into 72 over the course of this last week. As of right now there is no actual ETA because of how backed up the process is. Parents are calling in crying, trying to get updates because they have to be home with their kids. Some talk about losing jobs, others are just plain mad.

I don't blame them. The process is fucked.

I get that this is a virus that can kill, but the reality is that the fucking school board decided to keep in person teaching (which is good, much better then virtual) and the health department didn't scale up for school starting. Now we are left with a handful of people rushing to get kids back in school and probably fucking up, a lot of students unable to do classwork and falling behind (they aren't getting assigned work while out), and parents freaking out. I can guarantee its a similar situation in other parts of the country.

Before anyone asks no I am not involved with contact tracing, so I cant answer specific questions about how it works. I just have first hand knowledge of how backed up the entire system is. Really glad I am not a parent during this clusterfuck.
 
They are desperate to "debunk" claims that India's surge in the Delta variation (which is basically where it started) was helped due to ivermectin. Already been debunked because...reasons. Probably horses or something.


The deboonk

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The reality

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Can someone point to anywhere else that's managed to bring Delta down to a statistical zero with vaccines?

Now maybe there is some weird factors unique to Uttar Pradesh, with it's densely packed population most of whom live in squalor, that makes them uniquely resistant to the coof?

BTW here's one of the Indian states that doesn't hand out Ivermectin as a preventative

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Here;s the UK with it's 80% vaccination rate
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Here's Israel with it's 8-% vaccination rate plus boosters

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Spot the difference? I know it's subtle but try.
 
I think there's gonna be some complications by taking a shitload of meds to stop covid. Because they're not gonna stop at one pill. One comes out. There's complications from it. Big Pharma recommends another one. That has complications. so on and so on.
So just like the "boosters" except in pill form.

By the way, imagine if they recommended the HIV pills just so that they can claim that anyone that doesn't take them is transphobic because trannies have an HIV rate of FORTY PERCENT they claim.
 
The WHO and the CDC don't want to admit they did anything wrong because that fucks up the entire political narrative for facilitating contact-tracing and vaccine passports. If we generously assume they're just incompetent retards and not actively malicious, they're definitely not going to admit to being utterly BTFO'd by Street-Shitteristan doctors.

Can you even imagine the tsunami of public backlash if the officials actually admit they made a mistake? People lost their loved ones, their businesses, they were not even allowed to attend funerals while BLM was allowed to mass-protest and riot all summer. Elite heads would fucking roll in the streets.

Also India doesn't have the deep pockets that the US and EU do, to afford investing billions into questionable new vaccines and increasing pharma stock value. HCQ and Ivermectin are cheap and widely available. It would be a real "The emperor has no clothes" moment if everyone realized that cheap medicines worked, and the several trillion dollars of US government debt added for bullshit was for nothing. Guess who loses money if we stop using vaccines?
 
The WHO and the CDC don't want to admit they did anything wrong because that fucks up the entire political narrative for facilitating contact-tracing and vaccine passports. If we generously assume they're just incompetent retards and not actively malicious, they're definitely not going to admit to being utterly BTFO'd by Street-Shitteristan doctors.

Can you even imagine the tsunami of public backlash if the officials actually admit they made a mistake? People lost their loved ones, their businesses, they were not even allowed to attend funerals while BLM was allowed to mass-protest and riot all summer. Elite heads would fucking roll in the streets.

Also India doesn't have the deep pockets that the US and EU do, to afford investing billions into questionable new vaccines and increasing pharma stock value. HCQ and Ivermectin are cheap and widely available. It would be a real "The emperor has no clothes" moment if everyone realized that cheap medicines worked. Guess who loses money if we stop using vaccines?
There'll still be large numbers of people who'll keep their heads buried in the sand to not get angry. Or just say covid killed them.
 
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I don't know if this is the best place to do it but I need to vent. Schools need to lower the contact tracing threshold where I work. The absolute clusterfuck of in school learning starting 2 weeks ago and the amount of students forcibly getting pulled out is insane. Let me break it down how it is working right now.

1. Student with covid attends school
2. Student finds out they have covid, parents inform school.
3. Any other student that came within 6 feet of the positive student gets pulled out of school. This includes kids in the cafeteria, anyone they sit next to on the bus etc, basically a fuck ton of students.
4. School sends an email out to each of the possible contacts parents, informing them they cannot return to school until the health department finishes contact tracing.
5. School contacts health department, which starts tracing each possible student and giving the greenlight for them to each go back after a negative test.

Here's where the process breaks down, notice how I said fuck ton of students. The HD is not prepared for the volume of tracing that needs to happen. 24 hour turn around has turned into 72 over the course of this last week. As of right now there is no actual ETA because of how backed up the process is. Parents are calling in crying, trying to get updates because they have to be home with their kids. Some talk about losing jobs, others are just plain mad.

I don't blame them. The process is fucked.

I get that this is a virus that can kill, but the reality is that the fucking school board decided to keep in person teaching (which is good, much better then virtual) and the health department didn't scale up for school starting. Now we are left with a handful of people rushing to get kids back in school and probably fucking up, a lot of students unable to do classwork and falling behind (they aren't getting assigned work while out), and parents freaking out. I can guarantee its a similar situation in other parts of the country.

Before anyone asks no I am not involved with contact tracing, so I cant answer specific questions about how it works. I just have first hand knowledge of how backed up the entire system is. Really glad I am not a parent during this clusterfuck.
to think i found this hilarious back in 2005
 
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