The Great Twitter Meltdown of 2021 - Emulator creator Byuu bullied to death by HateSpeech™ forum, Twitter takes up arms (Still No Death Report)

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QwahlityKahntent said:
not saying he isn't alive, but i know someone who died in japan in february and i don't see it listed on there
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Were they a US citizen or a Japanese citizen? This only lists US citizens dying overseas.
YachieKicchou said:
It's entirely possible Byuu revoked his citizenship. I'm not sure if that'd mean he wouldn't have to be reported though. But it's a posibility.
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Byuu showed his US passport to Null right before he 'died', right? Doesn't that mean he was still a US citizen?
 
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YachieKicchou said:
It's entirely possible Byuu revoked his citizenship. I'm not sure if that'd mean he wouldn't have to be reported though. But it's a posibility.
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The United States won't let you revoke your citizenship until you almost certainly will get another citizenship, and Japan won't let you get a citizenship without speaking Japanese which Byuu by his own admission couldn't speak
 
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Joe Swanson said:
The United States won't let you revoke your citizenship until you almost certainly will get another citizenship, and Japan won't let you get a citizenship without speaking Japanese which Byuu by his own admission couldn't speak
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That was just a humble move by byuu, he didn't want to make anyone feel bad because of their lack of moonrune knowledge. byuu was a pure, humble emulation farmer that only ever made white lies to protect the feelings of those around him. The truth is, he was a genius in every respect, spoke most languages, and we TOOK him from this world too soon.
 
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YachieKicchou said:
It's entirely possible Byuu revoked his citizenship. I'm not sure if that'd mean he wouldn't have to be reported though. But it's a posibility.
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Then Hector wouldn't have been gloating two months ago about how Near would totally definitely appear on the overseas deaths list this month.

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Perhaps he was hoping that, by now, everyone would have forgotten to keep an eye on the list. :optimistic:
 
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So was anyone aware that Hector was okay with bullying someone to suicide AFTER Byuu totally killed himself because of bullying?
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There's more before it but I don't know the whole backstory and I don't really care all that much. Judging from some of the surrounding tweets it sounds like Hector is trying to gatekeep his precious emulation community. This I feel is much more important and should be the focus.
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I know, pedos get the wall, but my point is that Hector is okay with pushing someone to suicide as long as he doesn't like them. He does go on further to state
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So please, continue to bully people to death, fellow Farmers, AS LONG as it's people who Hector has a problem with (which in this case seems to be some sort of upstart in his precious emulator community, fuck them upstarts).
 
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mindlessobserver said:
Pretty sure be broke US extortion law when he offered north of 100,000 dollars for a thread takedown, and then threatened to kill himself and blame Null if he didn't take the money. And then he actually went ahead and carried out the threat of reputation destruction if not actually doing the deed.

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(d) Whoever, with intent to extort from any person any money or other thing of value, knowingly so deposits or causes to be delivered, as aforesaid, any communication, with or without a name or designating mark subscribed thereto, addressed to any other person and containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another, or the reputation of a deceased person, or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both

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Even under a strict reading, this meets the qualifications for the act.

1. Thing of value: Byuus thread. Byuu valued this thread to be worth 120,000 dollars. Whether or not it's worth that is immaterial. It's value to the perpetrator is what is important.

2. Threat: the proverbial "or else". In this case being the threat to kill himself and blame the kiwifarms

3. Injury to Property: the dreamhost contract (which IS property under color of law) was lost

4. Injury to Reputation: just do a Google News search

5. Was the threat credible? Of course. The threat was actually carried out.
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this is nonsense
offering to pay money for a service is not criminal extortion, and neither is the weak do-this-or-i-kill-myself "threat" that he followed up with. it's a dumb emotional manipulation tactic, nothing more.

if you contact the authorities over such behavior, the only thing that might happen is them telling the cops or social services to check in on the guys well-being because he might be suicidal, maybe put him in a suicide ward for a couple days, but nothing more, certainly no criminal case would be started.
 
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Sorry for the derail, but what are they talking about? One of the three people killed was the shooter himself. Why is kiwi farms to blame? People here cheered him up to do it? I'm really lost.
 
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As for other information that might determine the truth, I found this documentation: https://fam.state.gov/fam/07fam/07fam0270.html

There's a bunch here and I'm not fucking reading all of it but three points that stood out to me:

1. (as to QwahlityKahntent's wrinkle) non-civilian deaths are handled separately.
2. There is a specific form filed for non-natural civilian deaths abroad, the DS-2060. Copies of the DS-2060 can only be sent to the legal representative of the deceased, so it doesn't seem like that information can become public knowledge.
3. There's a specific carveout for situations in which the local death certificate isn't ready within six weeks, but a preliminary one is, in which case a preliminary DS-2060 is still filed. And if the local death certificate isn't ready in any form within six weeks, the Next-Of-Kin is contacted directly with an explanation.

Now, the Department website has the following phrasing: "Deaths that are listed as“undetermined/unknown” have been reported to the Department of State as deaths from non-natural causes, but local authorities have not provided additional information." That sounds a lot like point 3 above. If the local authorities don't provide a finalized death certificate, but do say it was a non-natural cause, the death *is* listed. I would like to think that Japan can figure out if a suicide was a suicide or not inside of six weeks, especially if the dude fucking hanged himself.

Which (I think) means, that even if there was some kind of "backfill" preventing the Department from finalizing a DS-2060, the death would *still* be reported, but the cause of death would be listed as "undetermined/unknown". There's a whole bunch of weird edge cases here I don't care to interpret, one of which is, if the locality where the death occurred hasn't issued even a preliminary death report and doesn't anticipate doing so inside of six weeks, does the death still get listed, or not. Or perhaps the "backfill" is *not* related to the locality's finalizing a death certificate. In which case the implication is here that the State Department dropped the ball. But if they did I don't expect them to wait until six fucking months from now to update the listing. I'd expect them to finish the certification and add it to the list. It's not like they're only allowed to edit the website every six months.
 
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