Plagued COVID Conspiracy Theorists and other idiots - This is not a political thunderdome or gay slapfight thread.

is there any particular reason why we can't directly quote and reply to certain people anyways? i know it's a lazyass thing to complain about since literally all you have to do is copypaste their message and @ them, but it's still a little weird.
Technical difficulties, Null's taken a week off or some shit so we'll see if it's fixed when he fixes it.
 
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I wish covid wasn't so heavily politicized right out the gate, or ever for that matter. Feels like the left and the right in America are trapped in an eternal idiot fight.
Pretty much this and both sides are absolute fucking imbeciles. Decisions aren't made based on what is correct, but what is left or right, so if you're left, apparently, you have to worship vaccines, but at the same time, worship idiot men in dresses declaring themselves to be women, but if you're right, you have to think vaccines are literally Satan's semen, but aborting brainless fetuses is human sacrifice, or some similar dumb fucking shit.
is there any particular reason why we can't directly quote and reply to certain people anyways? i know it's a lazyass thing to complain about since literally all you have to do is copypaste their message and @ them, but it's still a little weird.
You can do it if you aren't retarded and I've posted an explanation of how repeatedly. PROTIP: copy a link by right clicking the reply button of a post that actually has one, remove the last few digits, hover over the upper right hand corner of the post you actually want to reply to, type in the last few digits, hit return, now you are replying to the post you want to reply to, you're welcome, enjoy your new ability to reply to shit even on Broken Farms.
 
I have a question for anyone who knows more about insurance or the law than me. Can insurance companies eventually start denying claims from people with COVID who declined the vaccine? Because that's like....the perfect storm of "you made your bed" for the right that I cannot wait to see.
Agreed, we should also deny health insurance to women who get abortions.

Didn't think that one through did you, faggot?

Pretty much this and both sides are absolute fucking imbeciles. Decisions aren't made based on what is correct, but what is left or right, so if you're left, apparently, you have to worship vaccines, but at the same time, worship idiot men in dresses declaring themselves to be women, but if you're right, you have to think vaccines are literally Satan's semen, but aborting brainless fetuses is human sacrifice, or some similar dumb fucking shit.

I'm sure there's a handful of people who think that vaccines in general are demon semen, but most people who refuse the Covid vaccine have had other vaccines before & only refuse the vaccine for Covid, and that's because the overt political pressure surrounding it makes it appear suspect.

And before you say "here's this trustworthy source" or "here's this doctor/scientist", everyone lies, and everyone wants something. The overt politicizing of the Covid vaccine has made me distrust it permanently & any amount of added pressure to accept it only compounds it further.
 
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@Hollywood Hulk Hogan
No, it doesn't really work that way. Mutations are random. Selection for said mutations is not as random, but the vaccine being around doesn't magically make vaccine-resistant mutations happen.

Yeah, evolution is not magic, that is right. Mutations occur randomly, but they are then filtered through how well they are suited for their environment (among other things). And if there really is a 12-35% chance of the vaccines failing, as was stated in this thread before, it looks to me that getting one of these those might actually contribute more to the problem than it helps? For reference see Marek's Disease in chicken or the decreasing effectiveness of antibiotics. Again, if you have any more info on why it is different with Covid I'd love to hear it.

Why are you so terrified of potential vaccine side effects down the line when that's never happened in the history of medicine before, yet you aren't terrified of potential long-term side effects of covid itself?

Not to be mean, but this honestly read like a joke, I hope you meant it like that, too. But should anyone be interested, this is how pharma companies and doctors treat kids with no regard for future side effects. Lupron is a very relevant topic regarding gender non-confirming youth right now.

As for the other point, I never said I wasn't afraid of Covid. But that doesn't mean I jump to the first available 'solution' that is sold to me. I'm not that afraid.

Scientists and doctors have gotten the vaccine. They know a lot more about this shit than you and I. What knowledge about vaccines do you know that they don't?

What do you expect me to say? I don't have the education a doctor (any doctor) has. I'm just cautious, the things I know and learned here so far justified being cautious to me and I'd like to remain cautious until I've seen for myself that there are no dangerous side effects later down the line, so when enough time passed.

By the way, "scientists and doctors have gotten the vaccine" is not really a good argument when all of these terms have very broad meanings. Not only are there over twenty different vaccines with a bunch more being developed but marine biologists and dentists are as much scientists and doctors as the here probably more relevant virologists and microbiologists.

@JaneThough
You are right, I've probably derailed the thread enough with my antics. Sorry for briefly turning it into every other Covid-19 thread on the internet. Best of luck to you and your family, and everyone else out there regardless of your choice. Stay healthy, don't panic too much and that this whole pandemic will end soon. If you'd like to discuss further I invite you to my DMs, but for now enjoy your thread about conspiracy theorists and the like again. Check out @Doctor of Autism 's link (Archive) if you feel like being horrified today, I didn't know how many homebrew solutions there are for a 1 1/2 year old disease wow
 
@MarvinTheParanoidAndroid
I'm sure there's a handful of people who think that vaccines in general are demon semen, but most people who refuse the Covid vaccine have had other vaccines before & only refuse the vaccine for Covid, and that's because the overt political pressure surrounding it makes it appear suspect.
They refuse it for political reasons? That's an even worse reason to not take it than simply not trusting it.
And before you say "here's this trustworthy source" or "here's this doctor/scientist", everyone lies, and everyone wants something. The overt politicizing of the Covid vaccine has made me distrust it permanently & any amount of added pressure to accept it only compounds it further.
That's funny considering that it seems like the group politicizing the vaccine are the anti-vaxxers.
 
That's funny considering that it seems like the group politicizing the vaccine are the anti-vaxxers.
The left criticized it first when it was Trumps vaccine so no, you're wrong.
They refuse it for political reasons? That's an even worse reason to not take it than simply not trusting it.
Not really, because now you can't call them retards who don't know da science anymore if it's a political "fuck you". There are people who are afraid of it being a haphazard rush job, but the people who call us retards, fascists & racists/sexists/homophobes/transphobes for wanting gun rights, free speech, ownership rights & border control want the vaccine the most.

I'll happily take a tetanus, rabies or malaria vaccine, but never COVID.
 
The left criticized it first when it was Trumps vaccine so no, you're wrong.
Given how Trump responded to Covid's intial outbreak, that's to be expected. Besides, outside of Trump's presidency, when has there been any politicizing of the vaccine outside of the vaccine-hesitant?
Not really, because now you can't call them retards who don't know da science anymore if it's a political "fuck you". There are people who are afraid of it being a haphazard rush job, but the people who call us retards, fascists & racists/sexists/homophobes/transphobes for wanting gun rights, free speech, ownership rights & border control want the vaccine the most.
This is what I'm talking about. You're actively focusing on the political opinions of the people taking the vaccine that you are making it influence your medical decisions.

The people worried about this being a rush job have nothing to worry about given the vaccine's recent FDA approval.
 
Given how Trump responded to Covid's intial outbreak, that's to be expected.
By what? Calling it the Chinese virus?
Besides, outside of Trump's presidency, when has there been any politicizing of the vaccine outside of the vaccine-hesitant?
What is this goalpost moving shit? "Except for when our side was doing it, when was there ever a time it happened outside of your side?"

The vaccine was shit when it was Trump's, then it became solid gold when it was Biden's. I seem to recall that Nancy Pelosi went to China Town unmasked to say "Chinese people are not a virus" in the most politically opportunistic way possible. They played Covid up like a red herring for racism & pretended it didn't exist then 180'd on their position once Trump was out of office with totalitarian lockdowns.

And how about the vaccine lockdowns, in which civilians were expected to give up their jobs, businesses, their places of worship & amenities while politicians ignored their own mandates? No masks, lockdowns or sacrifices for them or their friends & businesses of choice.

What about vaccine passports & app tracking in places like France & Australia?

Yeah, leftoids have absolutely politicized the fuck out of this vaccine, & then shove words into our mouths that we deny the efficacy of all vaccines, then people like @Hollywood Hulk Hogan come at us with this "you only think in black & white 0% or %100" bullshit whenever things don't pan out completely their way.

It wouldn't matter if everyone took the vaccine or not. If we all did, they'd just make up an excuse or lie about it for more control by couching their next step in government overreach in the name of safety.
 
@Parasaurolophus
So you can actually be bothered to check out sources that to "support" your position on other places of the internet, but you come here for information on the safety of the covid vaccines, refuse or ignore any of it, and refuse to even look at what the CDC put out, because reasons. While you're sitting around wringing your hands and being """cautious""", If you catch it, do someone else a favor and stay out of the hospital; You'll probably take up room for someone that could use and appreciate it.
 
@MarvinTheParanoidAndroid (won't let me reply)
By what? Calling it the Chinese virus?
Well, for one, he literally told people to not wear masks or socially distance, he threw a temper tantrum about the lockdowns, and his rallies were essentially superspreader events. When scientists disagreed with him on stuff, he told his cult to not trust said scientists. He could come out and encourage people to get vaccinated in a PSA, but he won't because he said to get the vaccine at one of his superspreader rallies and started to get booed, but he's such a pussy that he then backtracked.

What is this goalpost moving shit? "Except for when our side was doing it, when was there ever a time it happened outside of your side?"

The vaccine was shit when it was Trump's, then it became solid gold when it was Biden's. I seem to recall that Nancy Pelosi went to China Town unmasked to say "Chinese people are not a virus" in the most politically opportunistic way possible. They played Covid up like a red herring for racism & pretended it didn't exist then 180'd on their position once Trump was out of office with totalitarian lockdowns.
The vaccine was, and still is, the companies that made them. Trump did a great thing in Operation Warp Speed, but he isn't doing much now to encourage people to get vaccinated. Biden has tried his best and done everything he can to get people vaccinated.

And how about the vaccine lockdowns, in which civilians were expected to give up their jobs, businesses, their places of worship & amenities while politicians ignored their own mandates? No masks, lockdowns or sacrifices for them or their friends & businesses of choice.

What about vaccine passports & app tracking in places like France & Australia?

Yeah, leftoids have absolutely politicized the fuck out of this vaccine, & then shove words into our mouths that we deny the efficacy of all vaccines, then people like @Hollywood Hulk Hogan come at us with this "you only think in black & white 0% or %100" bullshit whenever things don't pan out completely their way.
Yeah, because you retards who won't get the vaccine because you hate scientists and journalists are totally not politicizing it. Hence your retarded posts on my profile, which I then thoroughly destroy, and you run away with your tail between your legs because you're a retard who just posts what the right-wing cult tells you to believe, and you have no answer when reality contradicts this..

And yes, you do seem to only think about things in black and white. The vaccine is only 70% effective, so your autistic brain, which is diseased from severe autism, can't comprehend that 70% is still pretty damn effective. However, your brain only seems to be able to accept things as 0% or 100%, which I know is a sign of autism which you clearly have.

It wouldn't matter if everyone took the vaccine or not. If we all did, they'd just make up an excuse or lie about it for more control by couching their next step in government overreach in the name of safety.
Lol yeah, is that why governments ended lockdowns and mask mandates when cases went down? You schizo conspiracy nutjobs who think the government has some vast interest in making people wear masks and to lock everything down are seriously fucking retarded. As in, you are incredibly inept at logic. A good conspiracy needs an end goal. What is the end goal here?

Agreed, we should also deny health insurance to women who get abortions.

Didn't think that one through did you, faggot?
I think you're the retard that didn't think that one through. How the fuck is an abortion comparable to rejecting the covid vaccine?

Now, serious question. Are you severely autistic or is your IQ just mongoloid level?

@Parasaurolophus
Yeah, evolution is not magic, that is right. Mutations occur randomly, but they are then filtered through how well they are suited for their environment (among other things). And if there really is a 12-35% chance of the vaccines failing, as was stated in this thread before, it looks to me that getting one of these those might actually contribute more to the problem than it helps? For reference see Marek's Disease in chicken or the decreasing effectiveness of antibiotics. Again, if you have any more info on why it is different with Covid I'd love to hear it.
Decreasing effectiveness of antibiotics is a totally different issue. Viruses and bacteria evolve totally differently. The fact you even compare them shows you know jack shit about this issue, even less than I thought you did. Marek's disease was discussed a few pages back, but also, a totally different scenario.

Not to be mean, but this honestly read like a joke, I hope you meant it like that, too. But should anyone be interested, this is how pharma companies and doctors treat kids with no regard for future side effects. Lupron is a very relevant topic regarding gender non-confirming youth right now.

As for the other point, I never said I wasn't afraid of Covid. But that doesn't mean I jump to the first available 'solution' that is sold to me. I'm not that afraid.
I know pharmaceutical companies can be evil. However, you also forget about FDA approval and things like that. The scientists behind the shots and doctors all got vaccinated. What do you know about these that they don't know? You still didn't answer that. Why are you so worried about it when hundreds of millions of people have gotten them world-wide and been totally fine, including people who know more about these things in their little toe than all of Kiwi Farms combined.

What do you expect me to say? I don't have the education a doctor (any doctor) has. I'm just cautious, the things I know and learned here so far justified being cautious to me and I'd like to remain cautious until I've seen for myself that there are no dangerous side effects later down the line, so when enough time passed.

By the way, "scientists and doctors have gotten the vaccine" is not really a good argument when all of these terms have very broad meanings. Not only are there over twenty different vaccines with a bunch more being developed but marine biologists and dentists are as much scientists and doctors as the here probably more relevant virologists and microbiologists.
Well, you're the one who seems to know something those doctors and scientists don't know. The docs and scientists said that covid itself is way, way, way more dangerous than the vaccine. And by scientists I meant ones who research viruses and vaccines, which should've been obvious.

And again, no vaccine has ever shown side effects that far down the line. I believe the longest is generally 2 months. It's been a year and a half since trials began and nothing like that has happened.

Why would the pharmaceutical companies want to kill their customers? You conspiracy nuts are god awful businessmen because you think companies want to kill their own customers.
 
Yeah, because you retards who won't get the vaccine because you hate scientists and journalists are totally not politicizing it.

And here we are, the perfect straw man to perfectly sum up all the reasons for Covid vaccine refusal. @Nauseated Courgi you want to know the reason people refuse the vaccine over politics? Gaze upon it for yourself. @Hollywood Hulk Hogan & people like him have done more to hurt vaccine acceptance than any conspiracy theory ever could.
 
It's pretty disheartening to see how many right wingers in Europe are supporting the idea that the vaccine is unsafe just because they don't like their government. Normally the ones against vaccination in the past (in Germany at least) were the left-leaning esotericist type of people, but now, thanks to globalism, the American-style partisan retardation is taking over everything.
 
And here we are, the perfect straw man to perfectly sum up all the reasons for Covid vaccine refusal. @Nauseated Courgi you want to know the reason people refuse the vaccine over politics? Gaze upon it for yourself. @Hollywood Hulk Hogan & people like him have done more to hurt vaccine acceptance than any conspiracy theory ever could.
I can see why, but that's a bit petty don't you think?
 
@Parasaurolophus
So you can actually be bothered to check out sources that to "support" your position on other places of the internet, but you come here for information on the safety of the covid vaccines, refuse or ignore any of it, and refuse to even look at what the CDC put out, because reasons. While you're sitting around wringing your hands and being """cautious""", If you catch it, do someone else a favor and stay out of the hospital; You'll probably take up room for someone that could use and appreciate it.
I would have sent you a DM since I'm really uncomfortable derailing the thread further, but since your profile is locked I guess this is the last reply until you send me a friend request :<

I do check out sources, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to tell you that the article you linked was more mockery, missed the point and didn't answer my inquiry earlier, remember? I also recall listening to what people here had to say and even being openly thankful for corrections, but maybe I wasn't clear enough with that, fair.

You're right that I'm biased, though. I have a firm stance, or used to have a firm stance, in this whole topic, so I didn't spend a lot of time looking into arguments where the premise didn't impress me anyway. The CDC can say whatever the CDC wishes to say, my country taught me that everything can be bought and manipulated. Maybe that is the issue with this. Currently there just is a lot of vested interest in these vaccines being a success I have a hard time believing anything. Maybe I should look more into research that has been published before December 2019, though, and yes, I'd also read stuff from the CDC from that time.

I'll gladly stay out of the hospitals, btw. Might be foolish to say now, maybe I'll regret it once it's there, but if no one wants me in there, fine. Guess that's on me. From everything I gathered so far my age demographic isn't that affected by Covid, so I take my chances.

Furthermore, if my basic understanding and knowledge of biology doesn't fail me, it should be imperative for anyone not in the most vulnerable groups to stay unvaccinated for exactly the same reasons people cite for taking it. If there really is that high of a failure rate and a 12-35% chance of the virus not only surviving in a vaccinated body but then also spreading it just furthers the development of those strains and renders the vaccines useless yet again for the old and unhealthy/weaker people. At least that's how I understood Standardized Profile's post. The more people take the vaccines now the more resistant strains will come through.

But that's it for now, if anyone needs me I'll be in Hulk's DMs ;>
 
@MarvinTheParanoidAndroid dying of a preventable disease to own @Hollywood Hulk Hogan. You can’t make this shit up anymore.

Also everyone in this thread, stop pretending you’re looking for expert opinions and are actually open to discussion. It’s clear you’re not. This is kiwi fucking farms. If you’re coming here to ask if you should take a vaccine your problems started way before COVID and the vaccine won’t solve them.
 
Also everyone in this thread, stop pretending you’re looking for expert opinions and are actually open to discussion. It’s clear you’re not. This is kiwi fucking farms. If you’re coming here to ask if you should take a vaccine your problems started way before COVID and the vaccine won’t solve them.
Yep. Anyone asking for advice should be asking their doctor. Not anyone in this thread. Not anyone in the thread started by a legit schizophrenic in Health and Fitness. Ask a damn doctor. No one on this site is qualified to answer your questions.


Here are some screenshots of Twitter/Facebook leftists & journos talking about how they'd still pick Biden over Trump if Biden raped their kid, raped a bus full of kids or if he boiled babies to death & ate them.


We're passed petty.
And you dodged the question when I asked if you'd vote for Biden over Trump if it turns out Trump raped a bus full of kids or boiled babies to death. You just said you would "vote third party" instead of answering the question. I guess your fetish for obese elderly men has made your autistic brain unable to comprehend voting for the man who beat him in the election
 
@Hollywood Hulk Hogan
Yep. Anyone asking for advice should be asking their doctor. Not anyone in this thread. Not anyone in the thread started by a legit schizophrenic in Health and Fitness. Ask a damn doctor. No one on this site is qualified to answer your questions.
The site's choice of "Similar threads" to this one still cracks me up.
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