Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Hollywood Hitler]

I hate Michelle Obama, but if this happened during Barrack's administration she'd probably tell all these fat fucks to go exercise instead of demanding that they stay inside watching Netflix and ordering Uber Eats.

 

[borsabil]

uk.gov has just denied the existence of any plans for an October lockdown, after definitely not leaking the possibility to a major newspaper via an obvious, but superficially deniable proxy.

In entirely unrelated matters, I'm off to the shop to restock my loo paper. I just have this sudden urge, you know? Hopefully I'm merely paranoid.

Governments are gearing up for a bitch of a winter in the northern hemisphere.

Here's the JAMA data on natural immunity in the US

Estimated US Infection- and Vaccine-Induced SARS-CoV-2 Seroprevalence Based on Blood Donations, July 2020-May 2021

This study estimates trends in SARS-CoV-2 seroprevalence related to infection and vaccination in the US population.

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Findings In this repeated cross-sectional study that included 1 443 519 blood donation specimens from a catchment area representing 74% of the US population, estimated SARS-CoV-2 seroprevalence weighted for differences between the study sample and general population increased from 3.5% in July 2020 to 20.2% for infection-induced antibodies and 83.3% for combined infection- and vaccine-induced antibodies in May 2021. Seroprevalence differed by age, race and ethnicity, and geographic region of residence, but these differences changed over the course of the study.

This study is based on 1.5 million individual blood donations.

20% of the population have natural immunity to Covid-19. Over 80% have combined immunity, either natural immunity, spike protein antibodies from the vaccines or a combination of the two.

Even with an R0 of 6 this should be sufficient herd immunity to suppress the virus, Covid should be a distant memory at this point, but obviously it isn't. The question is why?

First possibility is that Covid has a much higher R0 than originally thought (of around 3) and/or the Delta variant is much more infectious by an order of magnitude with an R0 of 7 or 8. However this can't be the case. Only 20% of the population have been infected with Covid which is far lower than previous CDC estimates of around a third. This suggests that Covid is in fact less infectious not more. Further if Covid is less infectious than we thought then the level of herd immunity needed to repress the virus is also less.

Second possibility is that underlying immunity is not effective in stopping transmission and replication. That the 60% of the population we assume have immunity from the vaccines in fact don't.

I'm no rocket scientist but I'm going for door number 2.

I don't think this data was released to prove the vaccines are useless but prove it they have,

What we don't know is what effect the vaccines are having on recovered cases of Covid. We also don't know their effects on existing cross immunity from exposure to other respiratory viruses (which for sure is a thing).

Things to consider. Why have governments been drumming into their populations that the Delta is multiple times more infectious that other Covid strains? When there is no evidence to support this?
Why are governments preparing their populations for further severe lockdowns when they have already surpassed their herd immunity goals?
Why are people in the northern hemisphere being told that the coming flu season will be the worst on record when there is no indication of this happening in the southern hemisphere winter?

I think everyone should prepare themselves for when they will catch Covid, particularly if you've been vaccinated. There is some indication of vaccine enhanced infection in the numbers coming out of Israel, where the vaccination program is 2 months ahead of the US.
The un-vaxxed should expect that they will be denied acute medical care and plan accordingly. We will be used as scapegoats to explain the explosion in cases in the coming months particularly if the next pandemic wave is noticeably worse than the previous both in terms of case numbers and deaths. Why should irresponsible refusers be given precious hospital beds when they are the ones spreading the virus? If anyone doesn't think this could happen they're idiots.

What I can say for sure is that they will never, ever admit that the vaccines have failed even less that the vaccines are in fact enhancing infection and severe disease. They will find other excuses and the media will brainwash the population into believing it.

Watch for the coming narratives

- Not enough of us have been vaccinated. Even in countries where essentially all adults have been vaccinated there will be a push to vaccinate even pre-adolescent children to achieve herd immunity
- Vaccines are safe and effective but they're not permanent. We will require population wide boosters to maintain herd immunity. This will be saved until the next wave really hits us as the ensuing panic will guarantee compliance.
- The vaccines are safe and effective but a new even more infectious variant has emerged and is spreading among the unvaccinated. This has caused it to mutate and avoid the vaccines.

If you start seeing the third narrative and you're not jabbed that's the time to start worrying. Consider bugging out to a rural area if you can. Do not tell people you're unvaccinated. If you have a good fake passport don't be shy and use it. When it comes to disease people get very fucking irrational and absolutely will start looking for witches to burn.

 

[FatalTater]

I don't know if the vaccines make arthritis worse, but mine has been giving me hell this past year. I was blaming it on the weather and on being old as balls but I guess it could be something else.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Rutgers university goes nuts to refuse a unvaccinated student who take online courses. I can't wait for the college bubble to blow out.

Rutgers Student Says He’s Being Stopped From Taking Online Classes Because He’s Unvaccinated

A New Jersey student has said he is barred from taking online classes at Rutgers University because he ...

www.theepochtimes.com

A New Jersey student has said he is barred from taking online classes at Rutgers University because he has not received a COVID-19 vaccine.

Logan Hollar, 22, told the New Jersey Star-Advance newspaper that he largely ignored the school’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate because his “classes were remote” and he attended them online from his home in Sandyston, located about 70 miles from the Rutgers campus in New Brunswick.

Hollar said that he was locked out of his Rutgers email and other accounts due to his vaccination status. When Hollar tried to pay his tuition last month, he was told by a representative that he needed to get vaccinated even though he doesn’t plan on attending classes in person.

“I’ll probably have to transfer to a different university,” Hollar the paper, adding that he knows of at least one other student who is in the same position. “I find it concerning for the vaccine to be pushed by the university rather than my doctor,” he told the outlet.

“I’m not in an at-risk age group. I’m healthy and I work out. I don’t find COVID to be scary,” he added, likely referring to the numerous studies that show the COVID-19 death rate among young adults in his age group to be far less than 1 percent. “If someone wants to be vaccinated, that’s fine with me, but I don’t think they should be pushed.”

Rutgers was the first college in the United States to mandate vaccines for students at its campuses, although it did not require the shots for students in online degree programs or online-only programs.

Hollar said that he’s not part of the online programs that do not have a vaccine mandate.

“When they put out the guidance in March, I was reading through all the verbiage, which was if you plan to return to campus, you need to be vaccinated,” he told the outlet. “I figured I wouldn’t be part of that because all my classes were remote.”

Keith Williams, his stepfather, told the paper that he is vaccinated but is “dumbfounded” by Rutgers’ move.

“I believe in vaccines, but I am highly confident that COVID-19 and variants do not travel through computer monitors by taking online classes,” Williams said.

“He chose to remove himself from an on-campus experience so he would not need to be vaccinated,” Williams said. “Now to be removed and shut down from his Rutgers email and online classes during the start of his senior year seems a bit crazy.”

 

[Meat Target]

Well, now lookie here...
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NEW DETAILS EMERGE ABOUT CORONAVIRUS RESEARCH AT CHINESE LAB​

More than 900 pages of materials related to US.-funded coronavirus research in China were released following a FOIA lawsuit by The Intercept.​

Sharon Lerner, Mara Hvistendahl
September 6 2021, 8:06 p.m.
The Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, in China’s central Hubei province, is seen on Feb. 3, 2021. Photo: Hector Retamal/AFP via Getty Images
NEWLY RELEASED DOCUMENTS provide details of U.S.-funded research on several types of coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. The Intercept has obtained more than 900 pages of documents detailing the work of EcoHealth Alliance, a U.S.-based health organization that used federal money to fund bat coronavirus research at the Chinese laboratory. The trove of documents includes two previously unpublished grant proposals that were funded by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, as well as project updates relating to EcoHealth Alliance’s research, which has been scrutinized amid increased interest in the origins of the pandemic.

The documents were released in connection with ongoing Freedom of Information Act litigation by The Intercept against the National Institutes of Health. The Intercept is making the full documents available to the public.
“This is a road map to the high-risk research that could have led to the current pandemic,” said Gary Ruskin, executive director of U.S. Right To Know, a group that has been investigating the origins of Covid-19.

One of the grants, titled “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence,” outlines an ambitious effort led by EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak to screen thousands of bat samples for novel coronaviruses. The research also involved screening people who work with live animals. The documents contain several critical details about the research in Wuhan, including the fact that key experimental work with humanized mice was conducted at a biosafety level 3 lab at Wuhan University Center for Animal Experiment — and not at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, as was previously assumed. The documents raise additional questions about the theory that the pandemic may have begun in a lab accident, an idea that Daszak has aggressively dismissed.

The bat coronavirus grant provided EcoHealth Alliance with a total of $3.1 million, including $599,000 that the Wuhan Institute of Virology used in part to identify and alter bat coronaviruses likely to infect humans. Even before the pandemic, many scientists were concerned about the potential dangers associated with such experiments. The grant proposal acknowledges some of those dangers: “Fieldwork involves the highest risk of exposure to SARS or other CoVs, while working in caves with high bat density overhead and the potential for fecal dust to be inhaled.”

Alina Chan, a molecular biologist at the Broad Institute, said the documents show that EcoHealth Alliance has reason to take the lab-leak theory seriously. “In this proposal, they actually point out that they know how risky this work is. They keep talking about people potentially getting bitten — and they kept records of everyone who got bitten,” Chan said. “Does EcoHealth have those records? And if not, how can they possibly rule out a research-related accident?”

According to Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University, the documents contain critical information about the research done in Wuhan, including about the creation of novel viruses. “The viruses they constructed were tested for their ability to infect mice that were engineered to display human type receptors on their cell,” Ebright wrote to The Intercept after reviewing the documents. Ebright also said the documents make it clear that two different types of novel coronaviruses were able to infect humanized mice. “While they were working on SARS-related coronavirus, they were carrying out a parallel project at the same time on MERS-related coronavirus,” Ebright said, referring to the virus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome.

Asked about the grant materials, Robert Kessler, communications manager at EcoHealth Alliance, said, “We applied for grants to conduct research. The relevant agencies deemed that to be important research, and thus funded it. So I don’t know that there’s a whole lot to say.”

The grant was initially awarded for a five-year period — from 2014 to 2019. Funding was renewed in 2019 but suspended by the Trump administration in April 2020.

The closest relative of SARS-CoV-2, which causes Covid-19, is a virus found in bats, making the animals a focal point for efforts to understand the origins of the pandemic. Exactly how the virus jumped to humans is the subject of heated debate. Many scientists believe that it was a natural spillover, meaning that the virus passed to humans in a setting such as a wet market or rural area where humans and animals are in close contact. Biosafety experts and internet sleuths who suspect a lab origin, meanwhile, have spent more than a year poring over publicly available information and obscure scientific publications looking for answers. In the past few months, leading scientists have also called for a deeper investigation of the pandemic’s origins, as has President Joe Biden, who in May ordered the intelligence community to study the issue. On August 27, Biden announced that the intelligence inquiry was inconclusive.

Biden blamed China for failing to release critical data, but the U.S. government has also been slow to release information. The Intercept initially requested the proposals in September 2020.

“I wish that this document had been released in early 2020,” said Chan, who has called for an investigation of the lab-leak origin theory. “It would have changed things massively, just to have all of the information in one place, immediately transparent, in a credible document that was submitted by EcoHealth Alliance.”

The second grant, “Understanding Risk of Zoonotic Virus Emergence in Emerging Infectious Disease Hotspots of Southeast Asia,” was awarded in August 2020 and extends through 2025. The proposal, written in 2019, often seems prescient, focusing on scaling up and deploying resources in Asia in case of an outbreak of an “emergent infectious disease” and referring to Asia as “this hottest of the EID hotspots.”

TLDR Ayatollah Fauci's perjury is confirmed.

 

[benutz]

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Like clockwork, the learned pattern of abuse follows the same trajectory:

1: We deny we are going to do this.
2: Ok, maybe we will do this in the absolute worst case scenario.
3: Fuck it, we're gonna do it anyway, whatcha gonna do about it?

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PHE says it has spotted 53 cases of 'Mu' Covid variant in UK which is feared to be resistant to vaccines and is already spreading in 49 US states​

• Public Health England said it had detected 53 cases of the mutant strain
• Sources said they were not 'hugely concerned' by the variant at present
• It has spread to every state in the US except Nebraska, data shows

PHE says it has spotted 53 cases of 'Mu' variant in UK

Public Health England said it had detected 53 cases of the mutant strain after it first cropped up in the UK in May. But sources said they were not concerned by the mutant strain.

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The top comments say what absolutely everyone else is thinking:

Bank holiday reporting lag sees Britain's daily Covid deaths quadruple in a week to 209 as infections rise 16% to 37,489 and daily hospital admissions surpass 1,000 for the second time in a week​

• Department of Health posted another 209 fatalities which was up 318% compared to the same time last week
• But it is likely the surge is due to a recording lag from the bank holiday when fewer people were working
• On the previous two Tuesdays health chiefs have posted another 173 and 170 Covid fatalities

Britain's daily Covid deaths quadruple in a week to 209

Health chiefs have registered another 209 Covid fatalities in the past 24 hours compared to just 50 recorded last Tuesday. Covid infections rose by 16 per cent, figures showed.

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Britain's daily Covid deaths quadruple in a week to 209 | Daily Mail …

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I just captured the very top comments on this one as well (no special selection here):

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I wonder how many people have lost faith in vaccines altogether over this. Not just the Covid vaccine but all vaccines in general. Vaccines slew smallpox & polio but now we're in the entirely predictable situation of trailing behind a highly mutable disease that skips each vaccine made for it before it's made. Whatever happened to the Epsilon & Delta variants I've heard so much about? Now we have a Mu variant?

I'm very curious how this'll play out in the long run, I can take a guess where Australia is going.

 

[General Disarray]

Joe's gonna do another thing.

Biden to outline plan to curb coronavirus Delta variant as cases grow - Press Nation

WASHINGTON, Sept 7 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden on Thursday will present a six-pronged strategy aimed at fighting the spread of the highly contagious coronavirus Delta variant and increasing U.S. COVID-19 vaccinations, a White House official said on Tuesday.

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Biden to outline plan to curb coronavirus Delta variant as cases grow​

September 7, 2021 Business

Biden to outline plan to curb coronavirus Delta variant as cases grow

WASHINGTON, Sept 7 (Reuters) – President Joe Biden on Thursday will present a six-pronged strategy aimed at fighting the spread of the highly contagious coronavirus Delta variant and increasing U.S. COVID-19 vaccinations, a White House official said on Tuesday.

The United States is struggling to combat a wave of infections driven by the variant even as officials urge unvaccinated Americans to get the shots. Rising case loads have raised concerns as children return to school, rattled investors and upended many companies’ return-to-office plans.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Biden “will lay out a six-pronged strategy … working across the public and private sectors.”

Nearly 650,000 people in the United States have died from COVID-19 since the pandemic began.

 

[benutz]

I wonder how many people have lost faith in vaccines altogether over this. Not just the Covid vaccine but all vaccines in general. Vaccines slew smallpox & polio but now we're in the entirely predictable situation of trailing behind a highly mutable disease that skips each vaccine made for it before it's made. Whatever happened to the Epsilon & Delta variants I've heard so much about? Now we have a Mu variant?

I'm very curious how this'll play out in the long run, I can take a guess where Australia is going.

Get with the program.

"Mu" stands for "Mutant"! Didn't you read the article?

You'll know when to bug out when we reach the "Andro" strain (Andromeda Strain).

Yikes!

One thing's for sure, we'd be proper fucked if there really was a serious 'bug' going around. For now, most people seem quite content with the monsters in charge doing a dry run for whatever the fuck it is they are doing a dry run for.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

What is this six pronged strategy, exactly?

It's either totalitarian or has no teeth.

 

[Puff]

One thing's for sure, we'd be proper fucked if there really was a serious 'bug' going around. For now, most people seem quite content with the monsters in charge doing a dry run for whatever the fuck it is they are doing a dry run for.

What makes you think this is a dry run?

 

[LaxerBRO]

These people should have been shuffled onto a spaceship under some futurology pretense and launched at the nearest black hole 10 years ago.

 

[UVB-76]

What makes you think this is a dry run?

They're not using any lube.

 

[knobslobbin]

People are ready to snap on these tyrants. Soon...

https://twitter.com/SpacemanSteven/status/1433546106554634242?s=20

 

[Rei is shit]

Guarantee part of that six pronged plan Biden will announce is a vax pass app.

Dark horse prediction - religious exemptions won't count anymore.

 

[Billy Beer]

uk.gov has just denied the existence of any plans for an October lockdown, after definitely not leaking the possibility to a major newspaper via an obvious, but superficially deniable proxy.

I can't see another lockdown. I can see more abusive powers of the vaccine passports. "If you've been vaccinated you can travel between counties, if you haven't been vaccinated, you're on 'tier 3' style restrictions". Gotta get those people scared shitless before christmas. "Want to see granny? get jabbed".

Of course, all of this will fizzle in to nothing come December 1st. There is no fucking way the retail sector will take another bumming over christmas, unless we're pushing for a recession to end all recessions.

In entirely unrelated matters, I'm off to the shop to restock my loo paper. I just have this sudden urge, you know? Hopefully I'm merely paranoid.

You do right. Think of it like this. Tesco receives 100 lorries a week of goods, so that it can keep its shelves stocked. However, due to corona/no polish drivers, Tesco can only get 80 wagons a week. In a normal year, Tesco ups its order to 150 lorries a week to cover the extra christmas produce and the higher sales at christmas (people rushing out to buy 10 weeks of shopping because the shops are closed for half a day).

However, we aren't in normal times and Tesco can only get 80 lorries a week in, even over Christmas. Will Tesco;

A) Not bother with christmas shite this year, even though it will be the items in the most demand
B) stop all non-christmas produce from hitting the stores and taking hits on slow movers like rice, tinned fruit etc

We know what they're going to do and Brexit will be blamed for the Jones' having no brussel (lol irony) sprouts, picallili or Branston pickle. Let alone Turkeys, crackers, cheese, wine, booze etc etc etc. Stock up now, because this year is going to be shit.

And to your point a few pages ago, which i can't quote, Yes, i have seen an uptick in stories about young lads dying out of nowhere. It was the same footy story that made me think the same as you; "is this the jab?". Yes, yes it is.

 

[Frapton66]

 

[Buffle Dag]

Let me tell you, I remember the nineties. There weren’t so many chain-link fences and CCTV cameras everywhere. We didn’t have this nonsensical security theater at airports. Life was good. Life was good, and they took it all away from us. I will never forgive them for that.

This randomly pushes me to post the following personal anecdote…

I am renewing my ID papers this week, because I'm not certain our government might start requiring vaccine certificates or other hoops for this in the upcoming years. This hopefully buys me ten years of peace.

The process reminded me of the last time I renewed my ID papers back in the 2010's. I then suddenly had to supply fingerprints, new rule. I protested and made sure a completely useless note was recorded about this. But now, I honestly am more worried about vaccine certificates. Handing over fingerprints suddenly doesn't seem so bad anymore. Slippery slope in action. I am guilty of not pushing back hard enough.

I still remember the time when my government, Siemens AG and others didn't have my fingerprints. Things used to be so much better. Safer. More peaceful. And the clown show keeps getting worse. Pray it doesn't go even further.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

It says "Epidemiologic studies of natural infection have also indicated that adaptive immune memory is sufficient to protect against SARS-CoV-2 reinfection in most cases."

Because the whole purpose of B-cells is to literally make antibodies.
The whole "no lasting antibodies" is dumb when you realize the whole purpose of B-cell memory is to just remember how to make the damn antibody.

I mean I guess it would be a problem if you were dealing with a disease that killed within 48-72 hours, but that's virtually never the case with COVID.

 

[Plank]

Let the salt flow. Joe Rogan returns after successfully treating covid with Ivermectin:

Joe's COVID Experience, CNN's Ivermectin Claims​

Joe's COVID Experience, CNN's Ivermectin Claims

Taken from JRE #1703 w/Tom Segura:https://open.spotify.com/episode/3TDU9fFwCop4MHTQSrU6Tg?si=uTJ-T60WSVGNikseYQF4dA&dl_branch=1

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Can the Covid Cultists sue Rogan for not dying and making them look like a bunch of idiots?

Here's a sample of the garbage that the Covid Cultists are filling their heads with: