Cultcow Russell Greer / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[WhiskerBiscuit]

I can sympathize with prostitutes having trouble screening clients because the clients are just as cagey as they are about getting busted, but it's utter lunacy to expect a client to pony up a deposit. That's like "monger 101" -- never send money to a sex worker in advance. It's always a scam.

if I hire someone to play clown at my kids’ party, I put down a deposit. That way the person doesn’t lose money if I flake. Scheduling this sort of personal services typically takes deposits as it’s the sort of thing where when a service worker accepts the job, they then become unavailable to others and just rescheduling or late filling of spots is uncommon. If I need a plumber, I don’t have a deposit required because if I change my mind last minute, my plumber can just get to someone sooner and last minute emergencies will fill my vacancy. If I hire a wedding photographer and day of I decide I don’t like the photographer, they aren’t going to be able to just get to the next client. And no one will call for last minute huge ass wedding.
The risk of scheduling and no-showing is higher when no retainer is paid. In legal work, SWs could just charge a cancellation fee but not if it’s illegal to engage in SW.


also, willingness to pay a deposit separates those who are serious from those like Russell who just want to email back and forth on all that will happen and then act shocked that they still get charged after being so charming.


also, I can’t reply to it, but the idea that Russ thinks his body is as fit as that Insta model boyfriend is hilarious.
Tell you what Russell, you never pose in anything but baggy sweatsuits and sweaty suits with mongol hands. I think you know how gross your body is or you’d post topless photos.

I’m all for body positivity. And you should love your body. But you should also love it for the ugly deformed Gollum physique it is.

 

[Miss Misery]

I love when Rusty gets infuriated over the type of mediocre-looking douchebags who wear turtlenecks (with a gold chain over it, no less) in the summer.

 

[moocow]

Damn this accursed reply bug.

Anyway, re: paying a deposit for a sex romp, lolno. Gonna double-down on this one, lads. This isn't a birthday party, a plumbing appointment or a wedding (what a bizarre comparison, btw). It's a booty call. Also, I've never had a tradesman ask for a deposit for a first visit either. That's ridiculous. For a $1,000+ repair job that requires materials and tools, sure, but for a random "hey uh drano didn't fix this clog, halp" call? Nah. Maybe bigger companies do that, but it's a hallmark of a shitty company that's going to nickel-and-dime you every chance it gets.

If you pay a deposit for a $200-$300 sex transaction with someone you've never met and whose identity is completely unknown using a payment method that's irreversible (cashapp, paypal, gift cards, etc.), that money is gone. You have no recourse. What are you gonna do, call the cops? "Upscale" providers that charge upscale prices 1) have better screening methods and 2) often aren't worth the hassle (and higher price) if they insist on deposits anyway.

"Monger" forums always advise people never to pay deposits for sex work. It's rule one. Besides, why in god's name would you ever want to leave any kind of financial paper trail for an illegal transaction like prostitution anyway?

Asking for a deposit is the most common scam on all the escort sites and it works so well because of naivety -- "it's just to screen out people who aren't serious." It's also 100% free money. There are other legitimate ways to screen potential clients, and the provider's best recourse for being ghosted by a client is to blacklist them (and possibly even spread the word among other providers).

The provider takes the initial risk of a wasted appointment slot -- it's a cost of doing business. In person, the provider's best protection against getting scammed by a client is to deal with the money first before the clothes come off -- that's the compromise on risk the client takes.

Sex work isn't filled with moral paragons who would never do such a thing. Plenty of sex workers have drug problems, can't manage a budget, work with (or for) "handlers," and so on, and have plenty of reasons to scam potential customers -- even regulars. Even the upscale ones. Not to mention outright scammers who just post fake profiles and collect deposits from unwitting suckers.

 

[AbraCadaver]

^^^
Tell me you buy a lot of hookers without telling me.

 

[Clovis]

We got word that the Greers did indeed pay for Russ's lawyer. But that may have been the last straw. Both of the times he's been in trouble with the law were because of his uncontrolled thirst. I wonder if they told him they were done after this, because they raised him better than to be a whoremonger and harasser of women.

If they haven't completely given up on him and ever wonder what he's up to (like, if he's about to end up in court again, for example), they can just come here and probably get more reliable intel than asking their wayward tard directly. I can't imagine they trust a word he slurps out at this point if he refers to his harassment conviction as "that stupid court thing in Orem".

Shit, in these crazy post-merge times where anything can happen, wouldn't it be great if the Greers dropped by the Farms to fill in some gaps for us? It might even be oddly validating for them - Mr &Mrs Greer, if anyone can sympathise with the struggles you must have had raising the ungrateful little goblin it's the peanut gallery of mentally ill trolls in this thread.

 

[Crazyhorze]

Hey Folks. I normally don't post, but I thought I'd share with you guys a comic I did for the wallpaper contest that is to replace the sonichu comics on this website. It also features Lucas Werner. Enjoy.

 

[Constellationzero]

If New French Extremity were a comic/graphic novel page, this would be a perfect example.

You delivered the scares in spades

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

I can sympathize with prostitutes having trouble screening clients because the clients are just as cagey as they are about getting busted, but it's utter lunacy to expect a client to pony up a deposit. That's like "monger 101" -- never send money to a sex worker in advance. It's always a scam.

In most cases it's a scam. In some cases, like if you're dealing with a brothel or somebody who's freelancing in one, they might ask for a deposit up front because they're rather expensive. This allows them to maximize their time.

I only know this because years ago a friend of mine was nuts for this Asian pornstar and he found out she was working at some brothel in Nevada between this and that date. He really wanted to go down to Nevada to fuck her. Until he found out she was charging something like $10K for a visit and was asking for a deposit to be put down at least 72 hours in advance.

Needless to say he didn't go through with it. And I'm sorry I don't care how hot she is. $10K just for a night with a woman is just not worth it.

 

[the khat quaffer]

Fucking reply bug.

Agree with monsieur Sebben. No woman on Earth is worth $10,000 for one night. That is a simply inconceivable amount of money just for some underwear time. She could be Kirsten Dunst (during her Mary Jane years) and I wouldn't pay that much. If I were to pay $10,000 for a throw it would have to be with some Nigerian princess(es) or something, where the act of fornication would lead our two countries to peace and I'd become ruler. But I think that's closer to like an arranged marriage dowry or something.

Ruzzy's obsession with prostitution fascinates and horrifies me. Other people's mileage may vary but I simply refuse to pay a woman for sex. It's not a prude or moral thing, it's just the principle of the thing. The only way a bird is getting money out of me for sex is through dating beforehand. Which...I guess....is really not all that different?

I guess it really is like the South Park song goes:

"A prostitute is like any other woman
they all trade something for sex
and they do it well."

EDIT: I meant Kirsten Dunst. DUNST. I am a fucking retard. It was early in the morning.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

@Phil Ken Sebben @the khat quaffer I mean, you can say there's no car on earth that's worth $500,000 but Ferraris exist. It's not that the sex is actually worth 10 grand, it's that whole conspicuous consumption thing. People want to flash their cash around and prove they're bigshots by paying outrageous sums for whatever. Like those weirdos who pay a thousand dollars for a slice of pizza that has gold flakes on it or whatever. It doesn't taste good and it's not actually worth the money anyway, but people want to show off. I'm willing to bet most of the guys who actually paid that much money to sleep with that woman weren't even fans of hers in the first place -- they just wanted to be able to say they banged a 10k hooker in Vegas once.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

@Phil Ken Sebben @the khat quaffer I mean, you can say there's no car on earth that's worth $500,000 but Ferraris exist. It's not that the sex is actually worth 10 grand, it's that whole conspicuous consumption thing. People want to flash their cash around and prove they're bigshots by paying outrageous sums for whatever. Like those weirdos who pay a thousand dollars for a slice of pizza that has gold flakes on it or whatever. It doesn't taste good and it's not actually worth the money anyway, but people want to show off. I'm willing to bet most of the guys who actually paid that much money to sleep with that woman weren't even fans of hers in the first place -- they just wanted to be able to say they banged a 10k hooker in Vegas once.

If you've got money to burn and want to spend it on a $10K hooker / porn star then you go right ahead. If you're so flush with cash that you don't even consider it being a waste then go for it.

But the point really was that in some cases a whore will ask for a deposit and it's not a scam 100% of the time. Although if you're paying $10K to fuck her money shouldn't be a problem for you.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

@Phil Ken Sebben Oh, agreed. I guess the discussion is meandering off-topic. My bad. I was just pointing out that you're right that there's no pussy on the planet worth five figures, but that doesn't mean people won't pay it. And put down a deposit, at that.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Damn reply bug. A lot of escorts do require a deposit because it weeds out guys who book them and have no intention or means of actually keeping the appointment. It stops time wasters like Russ. But yeah, for 10K, I better get a damn town named after me. Russ would balk at paying a deposit because he'd expect the hooker to trust him because he's a nice guy and would totally pay her! Really! If you doubt him, you don't like nice guys.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

@Phil Ken Sebben @the khat quaffer I mean, you can say there's no car on earth that's worth $500,000 but Ferraris exist. It's not that the sex is actually worth 10 grand, it's that whole conspicuous consumption thing. People want to flash their cash around and prove they're bigshots by paying outrageous sums for whatever. Like those weirdos who pay a thousand dollars for a slice of pizza that has gold flakes on it or whatever. It doesn't taste good and it's not actually worth the money anyway, but people want to show off. I'm willing to bet most of the guys who actually paid that much money to sleep with that woman weren't even fans of hers in the first place -- they just wanted to be able to say they banged a 10k hooker in Vegas once.

a $10k hooker is only worth $10k because that's what you paid. I don't think sex is worth that much, even if it was with a celebrity that I'm a fan of. At least with a car you're showing off an actual symbol of wealth, and you can drive it anytime you want. Usually the people who flash their money like a drunk on pay day and would pay $1000 for a slice of pizza with gold flakes on it don't stay wealthy for long (just look at Careercow Bam Margera).

Russ' fascination with hookers and prostitution is disturbing because he sees every woman as a potential hooker (THEY JUST NEED TO LEARN HOW TO LIKE IT!)

 

[Cilleystring]

All you guys who wouldn't pay top dollar for a 10/10 hooker are GAY and probably waste all your time drinking frickin nasty alcohol and playing loser video games hanging out with your friends and families.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

All you guys who wouldn't pay top dollar for a 10/10 hooker are GAY and probably waste all your time drinking frickin nasty alcohol and playing loser video games hanging out with your friends and families.

you left out us filthy smokers.

 

[RussianParasite]

The $10,000/night hooker rate is not even targeted at your upper middle or lower upper class. These are people with stupid amounts of money, and generally are like Saudi princes who have never had to work to obtain it.

Let’s say on the low end their net worth is $10 million (very low in terms of truly rich people). Let’s say the average net worth of an single young person is $100,000 give or take. The person with $10mn spending $10,000/night on said hooker is the same as the other person spending $100/night. Essentially nothing in the grand scheme and deal of the century in terms of hooker rates— they make much more than that in a day most likely.

Would you sleep with your favorite (porn)star if they gave it to you at that rate? I know I and many others wouldn’t for moral reasons, but you can see why a rich person would think nothing of this.

To at least keep this post somewhat germane: Russell Greer is a creepy sex pest who who can only afford a regular hooker by saving up months and months of his janitor salary.

 

[Constellationzero]

you left out us filthy smokers.

And black coffee drinking dinguses.

 

[AnOminous]

Fucking reply bug.

Agree with monsieur Sebben. No woman on Earth is worth $10,000 for one night.

Audrey Hepburn would be worth every penny you have and your eternal soul too.

 

[nemesisAF]

Audrey Hepburn would be worth every penny you have and your eternal soul too.

You mean, while she was alive, I hope…. But yeah, I see it

The big thing you would be getting isn’t as much sex in a vacuum, it would be some (if it went according to imagination) hybrid of romance tied into absolutely insane sex. Versus, say, a Carmen Electra.

Russ would see both experiences as the sum of the physical acts (sum? Concatenation?) and have no ability to appreciate. His thing is all BFE, but he has no desire to actually ever seduce a woman.