ProtonMail rats users out to les Feds - Don't use ProtonMail outside of Tor and probably don't trust them with your real phone number

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>onion service is only for login
>"you know if you want, you can give us your phone number or email for recovery."
>"don't want to give us your phone number? give it up now or no account"
>you have to pay to use IMAP or SMTP, else use their probably backdoored web client
>signup doesn't even work in tor
>privacy-watchdog.io (guy who exposed protonmail) mysteriously disappears, last snapshot is august 12 2021
this was gonna happen
 
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WhoIsSutterKane said:
can anyone recommend a better email service?
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According to this guy (whom was a /tech/ member on 8ch before it died) Disroot and RiseUp seem to be the go-to in regards to free email services that are supposedly secure. He rates email providers by how private they really are and explains in detail why a lot of them fail.
 
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SSF2T Old User said:
According to this guy (whom was a /tech/ member on 8ch before it died) Disroot and RiseUp seem to be the go-to in regards to free email services that are supposedly secure. He rates email providers by how private they really are and explains in detail why a lot of them fail.
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Disroot and RiseUp are actually committed to supporting anarchist shitdisturbers. I wouldn't like, 100% trust them if you were doing political activity that offends yids or anything, but they're certainly ideologically committed to making sure 'their' guys are as secure as is legally possible, in a way the ProtonMail grifters aren't.

Getting a Disroot account isn't that hard, RiseUp you will have to have links to anarchists which means either actually committed groups which are often infiltrated, or anarchoneocon freaks like Alexander Reid Ross which is.. a very bad idea. Both (also like cock.li) use simple webmail interfaces which work great through Tor.
 
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I'm not really surprised to be honest, they always gave bad vibes. Once I wanted to sign up for a throwaway email address and as other users said, it pushed so long with me giving them my phone number until I could not proceed in the signup process anymore. These days, giving someone your phone number is just as good as scanning in and sending them pictures of your ID.

There are other email services that let you connect however you want and also accept payments by mailed in cash. If anonymous payment (or payment in general - free services - ask yourself: how do they pay their bills?) is flat out not an option, I'd get very wary and they probably do not care about your privacy that much.
 
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lol imagine trusting a free webmail to protect you while you do crimes on it
WhoIsSutterKane said:
can anyone recommend a better email service?
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For doing crimes? Just open a cock.li and give your accomplice the password. Both of you can write to each other in an email you keep saved in drafts but never actually send it anywhere. For not doing crimes? Just use whatever, who fucking cares if the French police look at it.
 
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Elwood P. Dowd said:
Is this something new? I have two ProtonMail accounts less than a year old, and didn't give my phone number for either.
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I just signed up for an account last night and it asked me for my phone (lolno) as an account recovery method. It was optional though.
 
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I just signed up for an account last night and it asked me for my phone (lolno) as an account recovery method. It was optional though.
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I guess then you don't use a VPN and just come in via your residential IP. If you use VPNs and/or Tor you notice how much more unfriendly some parts of the internet become. Sadly it's a necessity in more and more western countries if you don't want the risk for police to show up one morning and take all your electronics because you called someone a swear.

When they have and store your residential ISP IP, that's also as good as an ID for the appropriate authorities. So they obviously seem to have some deal going that the users of their service need to be traceable to an identity. This is especially funny because by law, in many countries providers for things like email service are not obligated to store such data (no idea about switzerland) so who knows who actually runs protonmail or put the thumbscrews on them. At least I guess it's easy to use Protonmail in the dark...
 
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alright, speaking of privacy I currently have nord vpn. Should I just stop using it and pick another vpn?

I unironically picked Nord because ProtonVPN looked... off for some reason and gave me bad vibes.
 
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