Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Chongqing]

@Save the Loli I'll take your Nazi Germany metaphor and raise you a better one.

You and others who are calling for deception and crime, you're the type of Jews in Nazi Germany who would immediately go, "How can we pass as not Jewish? Does anyone have doctored family records?" It's troubling that you guys want to seem stronger by making it appear that there are almost none of you in real life. That will never work.

Your opening point about how society already hates you, so what do you have to lose? You could lose everything. "Everybody already hates me!" won't be a good defense in court.

It's cowardly to play their game. Stand up and say no.

 

[Focken Kiwi]

Joe Biden's announcement certainly wasn't met with applause. They've taken the video down once and reuploaded it again. It didn't help make his message seem any more popular unfortunately.

President Biden Delivers Remarks on his Plan to Stop the Delta Variant & Boost COVID-19 Vaccinations

The White House

www.youtube.com

https://archive.li/UDvUD

Personally, my hope is that no one adheres to Biden's bullshit, businesses fire their employees, companies crumble without their labor force and in a moment of "oh shit" realization, rush to hire people back. People that hopefully have the sense to demand more pay and better benefits for their return. I want to watch the titans writhe in agony.

 

[EndTimes21]

I had time to think and I am now convinced this is a mass global genocide plan. I had doubts before but the "all of a sudden died" articles are growing more and more, the propaganda to hide it too. The government has turned into the mafia who wants to protect you but in exchange they want access to your body and inject it with mistery stuff.

Some are asking why the situation is that bad in Australia and some other places and my guess is the low % of people injected, they want to genocide you and if you do not obey to the genocide then they are gonna make your life hell until you probably just kill yourself. I shall remember you that in the past one of their favorite ways to genocide people was starvation and wars.

Usually the reason for a mass genocide is to change the system, forget all the old stuff communism etc. now they have way more powerful tools than just radio and newspapers. I dont know about you but many institutions and businesses here are going strong into enforcing masks and the suicide pass, I am quite sure people are now ready to enforce anything in hope to go back. That includes guarding camps where people are imprisoned, deporting people (camps are being built in most countries).

Even tho some think the camps are for the people who refuse the shots I dont agree with that. As more and more people drop dead they will introduce new control systems, the camps are for the people who will not follow the new system.

As I see it, its only gonna get worse and a shit ton of people will be dead, of course economy will collapse and taxes will go up by a lot.

I am just amazed by the people not understanding what is happening.

 

[Local Fed]

It's cowardly to play their game.

The problem is that people are forced into the game. There's not really an opt out option that doesn't affect things/people that rely on you. Society may hate the person in question, but that person often has responsibilities (kids, a spouse, a pet rock, etc.) that put them in a position that may require them to be morally flexible, or at least having to go against their own wishes if it's not to the detriment to others.

It's for that reason, personally, why I can't find myself getting angry at those who've taken the vaccine simply to be able to keep stability for those higher purposes. I apply this, too, to the people who may choose to try to deceive those who may be trying to force them into taking it to continue to make a living (although it should be clear that to choose this route should be done carefully and with the acknowledgement that they are potentially taking on a new set of risks.)

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Jesus Christ Null why can't I quote people?

@Save the Loli I'll take your Nazi Germany metaphor and raise you a better one.

You and others who are calling for deception and crime, you're the type of Jews in Nazi Germany who would immediately go, "How can we pass as not Jewish? Does anyone have doctored family records?"

That's the oldest Jewish trick in the book. You claim to be Christian until the danger passes or you get to another country. Why did the Jews keep doing it? Because it worked, over and over again, especially in countries and time periods that didn't have any centralized database on who lived where. When it didn't work, the Jews who said "Yes Mr. Inquisitor/Yes Mr. Gestapo Officer, I am a proud Child of Israel" went to the same place the Jews who didn't.

Actually, both Islam and Judaism permit lying about one's faith to the authorities to save oneself. So do most Christians, where this matter was mostly settled with the Donatist controversy in the 4th century. Most religions agree you have more options than "seek martyrdom or forever be a bootlicker." Most political philosophies too, just ask all the old commie college professors who lied when asked "are you a member of the Communist Party" back when you had to say "no" to be employed at a college.

It's troubling that you guys want to seem stronger by making it appear that there are almost none of you in real life. That will never work.

According to who? Someone in HR that I don't know and have probably met once (if that)? As far as my state is concerned, I'm unvaccinated, and my family and friends know that. And there's literally nothing that prevents me from joining a strike over this either, hell, I'd hope at least some vaxxed people will join a strike if it happens.

Your opening point about how society already hates you, so what do you have to lose? You could lose everything. "Everybody already hates me!" won't be a good defense in court.

And you'll lose everything anyway. I have nothing to lose and something to gain by faking a vaxx card. Faking a vaxx card is no worse than downloading a song or a movie and exposes you to the same penalty. And being fired for a fake vaxx card won't matter when odds are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people will be fired for the exact same reason.

It's cowardly to play their game. Stand up and say no.

Honor and morals don't get you anywhere in the real world. The redcoats who whined that Americans hid in bushes and sniped their officers didn't get anything for playing fair. The Republican Party never got anything from losing with dignity. You cheat as much as you can get away with. We're in this situation because the other guys know how to cheat.

 

[moop_fogo]

i agree with @Chongqing

Lying about vax status for the sake of self preservation makes sense, but if you have a family you care about, you could also just get the vaccine & spare them the risk of compounded legal problems. (not recommending vax)

Standing up for what you think is important seems like the only way to preserve my sanity these days.
There's enough shit to feel conflicted about that. I don't want to pay fed tax, but unless there are a whole state's worth of people that organize against it, it's not a battle than can be won at this point. Maybe someday soon something will happen to bring us there.

Atleast not getting the vaccine is a modern stance that can potentially gain traction as (hopefully) more people realize it doesn't do shit.

eventually the fed will be able to track status, so do we form some sort of resistance, & go to extreme lengths to appear vaccinated, or go out in a struggle against the david dees vax police?. lol

 

[Bibendum]

Religious exemption is bullshit, at !east in the sense that I somehow would have to prove I was sufficiently religious and a believer in a sect that is against vaccines. What is the difference between a Religious exemption and a Moral/Philosophical one?

I'm no atheist but I'm not a dedicated churchgoer either. I should have as much ability to conscientiously object as some hardcore Christian Scientist or snake handler

While I agree ethical objections should be considered just as valid as religious ones, US employers need to be very careful about questioning religious belief, and must presume one's claim is legitimate unless they have some evidence otherwise; even then, they can only ask for some easily-attainable "supporting documents."
https://www.venable.com/insights/publications/2021/06/employers-guide-to-the-religious-exemption

• Presume a religious belief to be sincerely held, then be selective and cautious when requesting further verification and documentation. Avoid a fishing expedition to reduce the chances of claims of discrimination, harassment, or intimidation
• Be cognizant that religious beliefs are not static and are susceptible to change over the course of a person's life
• Remember that the fact that an individual is not a frequent observer of his or her faith or had not previously made his or her faith public does not necessarily limit its sincerity

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postal workers exempt from vaccine at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

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Yes, it's true!

Unfortunately, looks like they're not exempt after all -- while not bound by Biden's EO, they'd be covered by the mandate under OSHA jurisdiction: https://archive.md/zat0c

 

[Vince McMahon]

This is actually what I love about Kiwi Farms. The board is perfectly capable of carrying on two separate conversations with entirely conflicting viewpoints and entirely opposed ideologies.

It's ironic, but KF has better diversity of thought and a healthier marketplace of ideas than like 99% of boards on the internet, most of which have completely balkanized along ideological lines.

And yet, it is inevitable for KF too.

 

[A Logging Company]

We've reached the point where this is either a really elaborate high level conspiracy, or mass psychosis.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

I'm back from Alaska. Four days without internet was super therapeutic. If this stuff gets worse, I might just go back, buy a big shaggy dog, and spend a few years wandering the misty wilds.

Spoiler: Here's some fun stuff I've overheard and seen in my travels:

- Masks seemed to only be enforced in small spaces like vehicles where people can't avoid sharing air. I'm being told that it's because it's easier to get the anti-maskers to mask up than to convince the covidiots to share the air - and nobody wants to loose either group's business.
- An older boomer lady in a gift shop was almost in tears while explaining to the clerk that she respected people's right to not get vaccinated but that she blamed politicians for making this political and the vaccinated for dragging this thing out by causing mutations. She said we're probably just going to have to learn to live with Covid.
- Several 20-something vaccinated people in my travel group got asymptomatic Covid. They got kicked out of group events and are now stuck in AK until they test negative or 14 days or something. (Not sure which... I guess it's an honor system since the airlines aren't checking.)
- Lots of people in my group trying to justify how they were safe from Covid "because we're vaccinated". I made sure to remind them that the latest news says they can still get it.
- Chatty Grandma Lady on the airplane showed me her vaccine card and told me she was confused because nobody had asked her for it and she thought she had to prove vaccination to fly.
- Airports had lots of signs up claiming the risk of getting Covid from a plane was extremely low.
- Guys with Texas flags on their luggage refusing to wear masks in the airport and arguing loudly about how only idiots get vaccinated.
- Vaccination centers at several airports. (Didn't we learn last year that they wouldn't let pilots fly for two days after getting vaccinated due to elevated blood clot risk?)
- Nice respectful travel companions not talking about vaccines or fussing you about masks.
- A serious labor shortage resulting in many restaurants being closed. It sounds like Alaska's tourist season has had two rough summers, due to Covid restrictions, but my travel companions claim it's because all the low-wage workers have died of Covid.
- I made some joke about how everyone in LA has had Covid and nobody's died and the same travel buddy started listing how many people at her office were either dead or in the hospital with long Covid. I feel like one or the other of us is living in a fantasy world.

Oh yeah, and my acquaintance who had the emergency c-section is off both the ventilator and the ECMO. Sounds like she's still got a long road to recovery and hasn't held her baby yet. It's been about two weeks since the birth.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

@borsabil when you're right, you don't have to be a deceptive criminal. This idea that you're going to save your job by playing 5d chess because your employer isn't plugged in to a database or whatever you're saying, it's just dumb and it will backfire on the vaccine opposition as a whole.

If you think that your only choice is to lie to your employer and give them a false(r) sense of security, there's no way you think you're doing the right thing.

Also, if you're going to break the law, don't be a vegan about it and try to recruit others. It makes us all look like retards.

Yes! The only way out of this mess is if people state their true beliefs loud and clear, faking vaccine passports and lying to employers only plays into their hands. When you inevitably are found out you'll be fired, and the time will be long past when it would've meant anything. You'll simply appear a man who tried to cheat the system and lost, not a victim who was forced into deception.

 

[Smug Cat]

You and others who are calling for deception and crime, you're the type of Jews in Nazi Germany who would immediately go, "How can we pass as not Jewish? Does anyone have doctored family records?"

Nigger what? Jews in Nazi Germany absolutely should and did use any and all means available to them to survive in a regime that actually genuinely wanted them dead. Those that didn't aren't here to talk about it because they all fucking died meaningless deaths in brutal concentration camps. I could not think of a worse example to use to try and make your point.

 

[Plank]

The legacy media is so butthurt that Joe Rogan didn't die, they are losing the ability to even put out coherent damage control:

Joe Rogan's COVID-19 recovery shows how much the right has bought into the widely discredited horse dewormer cure

Anti-vaccine pundits seized on Rogan's comments, which included a ridiculous claim that he would not have contracted COVID if he'd avoided alcohol.

news.yahoo.com

Joe Rogan's COVID-19 recovery shows how much the right has bought int…

archived 10 Sep 2021 08:36:17 UTC

archive.md

https://twitter.com/JakeLahut/status/1435716926022561796

Jake Lahut on Twitter: "Right-wing media ran with Joe Rogan's comment…

archived 10 Sep 2021 08:28:25 UTC

archive.md

 

[George Lucas]

I’m feeling pretty down guys.

 

[Chongqing]

Nigger what? Jews in Nazi Germany absolutely should and did use any and all means available to them to survive in a regime that actually genuinely wanted them dead. Those that didn't aren't here to talk about it because they all fucking died meaningless deaths in brutal concentration camps. I could not think of a worse example to use to try and make your point.

On the Nazi Germany timeline, this would only be 1934.

But yes, most "just like under the Nazis" comparisons are very dumb. You're not off base about that.

 

[borsabil]

@Save the Loli I'll take your Nazi Germany metaphor and raise you a better one.

You and others who are calling for deception and crime, you're the type of Jews in Nazi Germany who would immediately go, "How can we pass as not Jewish? Does anyone have doctored family records?" It's troubling that you guys want to seem stronger by making it appear that there are almost none of you in real life. That will never work.

Your opening point about how society already hates you, so what do you have to lose? You could lose everything. "Everybody already hates me!" won't be a good defense in court.

It's cowardly to play their game. Stand up and say no.

Yes that's exactly fucking right. You know what they call those Jews? Holocaust survivors.

The problem with conservacucks is they still think there's rules for the game. What was a virtue in the 1950's, obey the law, be a good citizen, don't tell lies, is a terrible liability in current year.

I had time to think and I am now convinced this is a mass global genocide plan. I had doubts before but the "all of a sudden died" articles are growing more and more, the propaganda to hide it too. The government has turned into the mafia who wants to protect you but in exchange they want access to your body and inject it with mistery stuff.

Killing off hundreds of millions would see a global collapse that the 'elites' couldn't hide from. What they want is their Covid passports and top/down control and monitoring of the entire population. Think a gayer version of black mirror. Not to say a mass die off won't happen, the vaccines long term effects are unknown and every single previous attempt to produce a Coronavirus vaccine has ended in terrible mortality rates in animal subjects due to one kind of enhanced infection or another.

 

[KifflomKween]

What a fucking disappointment. She wrote one of my favourite books of all time. How can anyone with any sense support this? Academia is such a fucking shitshow these days.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I'm one of those people that got the prick just because I bought into the promise of going back to normal. I feel like the idiot now and it amazes me that the US government has truly made me eat my own words:

• "There's no way they will do vax checkpoints. That's some 1984 shit."
• "People equating the vax card to passports are overreacting."
• "They can't force this vax on everyone when they won't even force vaccinations for actual shitty diseases."

Nah. Here comes ice cream Biden all like, "yeah we're gonna make you need your vax passport to even do things besides NEET at home." I think I must be going literally insane to even be to this point, but I'm also starting to wonder if this pandemic has to have been a test for the global elites to see if we're ready for "the great reset." Maybe I've totally lost it! I've been told eh maybe next season ad nauseum for normal life for too long and someone can only be gaslit (auth-left, MSM, and big social media) for so long before they realize they were being controlled. It is incredible that everything the "conspiracy theorists" have said has been spot fucking on. Thus, at this point, I do wonder if these slightly cooky nutters are right, again. They aren't engaging in "slippery slope fallacies" if their prediction comes true like nosta-fucking-damus.

As an insane conspiracy theorist I will break down the next steps in line for you.

Australia already has coof camps for people suspected of having Covid, they also have a coof app that spies on you & you have to take a photo of yourself every so often to prove where you are.

The Nazis pretended to only be shuffling off the sick to coof camps when the Holocaust started. The logical conclusions can be drawn from that alone but Schizodamus will break it down for you. We're going to have vaccine passports & checkpoints like North Korea, the more time goes on, the more the amount of space you can navigate will shrink & the more clearance levels there will be the more distance you want to travel.

The vaccine passport is just a pretext for fucking with political rivals and government dissenters. People who especially speak out against it go to coof camps to be "decontaminated." It will either be done in an orderly & "humane" setting like in the Giver with lethal injection or with batches of people sealed in a room flooded with carbon dioxide. You may even see Communist level shit where people are tortured into confessing to crimes they didn't commit before they kill you. Coof camps will not just be for the unvaccinated but also for the under-vaccinated & political dissenters.

I could be wrong, anybody could, but it's just an educated guess. I think this is the fate of Australia more than anything, we'll just have to wait & see.

 

[moop_fogo]

Pretty eager to see the media shit show today.
I think it just hit me that I feel more & more pissed off as the moments go on! ^^

 

[BootlegPopeye]

Joe Biden's announcement certainly wasn't met with applause. They've taken the video down once and reuploaded it again. It didn't help make his message seem any more popular unfortunately.

Gulp, looks like Psaki's 'explaination' wasn't any more popular: