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ToroidalBoat said:
It's been awhile since mid-August. Things in this more conservative place have pretty much stayed the same: no noticeable increase in muzzle mandates, and things are still open. It's interesting that the response to this "pandemic" is divided politically. I don't think a real pandemic would work that way.
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weren't all the blue states supposed to be fully locked down again by now? this is definitely not the worst-case scenario many in this thread like to make it out to be
 
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We live in an absolutely insane world where a man can blatantly lie to Congress about his funding gain of function research in Wuhan, and his response to that, is to go on television and say, "An attack on Doctor Anthony Fauci is an attack on science."

The man refers to himself in the third person like a fucking comic book villain.
 
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Still Anonymous For This said:
We live in an absolutely insane world where a man can blatantly lie to Congress about his funding gain of function research in Wuhan, and his response to that, is to go on television and say, "An attack on Doctor Anthony Fauci is an attack on science."

The man refers to himself in the third person like a fucking comic book villain.
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someone should make some shitty comics where klaus schwab is the main villain and fauci is his sidekick
 
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Still Anonymous For This said:
We live in an absolutely insane world where a man can blatantly lie to Congress about his funding gain of function research in Wuhan, and his response to that, is to go on television and say, "An attack on Doctor Anthony Fauci is an attack on science."
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It's Clown World.

An endless Current Year.
 
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Former head of Planned Parenthood makes an illogical comparison regarding the unvaccinated.
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Don't forget that old hag George Soros.

Btw, I lurked on City-data forums and someone at the post #116tried to debunk the myth then blacks are more vaccinated than republicans. Linked it to an archive copy just in case if he edit his post. https://web.archive.org/web/2021091...mel-says-unvaccinated-people-shouldnt-12.html
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Lord, it's frustrating to read shit like that. These people live in opposite land: Black is white, up is down, the right wing controls the mainstream media, and the vaccine prevents you from spreading the virus.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
It's been awhile since mid-August. Things in this more conservative place have pretty much stayed the same: no noticeable increase in muzzle mandates, and things are still open. It's interesting that the response to this "pandemic" is divided politically. I don't think a real pandemic would work that way.
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I'm also curious as to the actual numbers of covid cases in lockdown states vs. Open states...
 
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Boys more at risk from Pfizer jab side-effect than Covid, suggests study​

US researchers say teenagers are more likely to get vaccine-related myocarditis than end up in hospital with Covid

Healthy boys may be more likely to be admitted to hospital with a rare side-effect of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine that causes inflammation of the heart than with Covid itself, US researchers claim.

Their analysis of medical data suggests that boys aged 12 to 15, with no underlying medical conditions, are four to six times more likely to be diagnosed with vaccine-related myocarditis than ending up in hospital with Covid over a four-month period.

Most children who experienced the rare side-effect had symptoms within days of the second shot of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, though a similar side-effect is seen with the Moderna jab. About 86% of the boys affected required some hospital care, the authors said.

Saul Faust, professor of paediatric immunology and infectious diseases at the University of Southampton, who was not involved in the work, said the findings appeared to justify the cautious approach taken on teenage vaccines by the UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccines and Immunisation.

The JCVI did not recommend vaccinating healthy 12 to 15-year-olds, but referred the matter to the UK’s chief medical officers who are expected to make a final decision next week. Children aged 12 to 15 who are particularly vulnerable to Covid, or who live with an at-risk person, are eligible for the shots.

In the latest study, which has yet to be peer reviewed, Dr Tracy Høeg at the University of California and colleagues analysed adverse reactions to Covid vaccines in US children aged 12 to 17 during the first six months of 2021. They estimate the rate of myocarditis after two shots of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine to be 162.2 cases per million for healthy boys aged 12 to 15 and 94 cases per million for healthy boys aged 16 to 17. The equivalent rates for girls were 13.4 and 13 cases per million, respectively. At current US infection rates, the risk of a healthy adolescent being taken to hospital with Covid in the next 120 days is about 44 per million, they said.

How reliable the data is and whether similar numbers could be seen in the UK if healthy 12 to 15-year-olds are vaccinated are unclear: vaccine reactions are recorded differently in the US and shots are given at longer time intervals in the UK. According to the UK medicines regulator, the rate of myocarditis after Covid vaccination is only six per million shots of Pfizer/BioNTech.

So far, UK children have not been admitted to hospital for Covid in large numbers and may not be at great risk of long Covid. While the recent Clock study found that up to 14% of children who caught Covid may still have symptoms 15 weeks later, levels of fatigue appear similar to those in children who have not caught the virus. This suggests that children may be spared some of the most debilitating problems seen in adult long Covid.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...t-children-being-vaccinated-in-the-uk-podcast
The overwhelming majority of myocarditis appears after the second dose of vaccine, so offering single shots could protect children while reducing their risk of the side effect even further.

“While myocarditis after vaccination is exceptionally rare, we may be able to change the first or second doses or combine vaccines differently to avoid the risk at all, once we understand the physiology better,” said Prof Faust. “On balance, there is no urgency to immunise children from a medical perspective, although if schools are unable to maintain education for the vast majority at all times, the overall balance could shift. If my two teenage children are offered the vaccine by the NHS my GP wife and I will have no hesitation in allowing them to receive the vaccine.”

Prof Adam Finn, a member of JCVI at the University of Bristol, said: “I stand by the JCVI advice, which is not to go ahead at this time with vaccinating healthy 12 to 15-year-olds on health outcome risk-benefit grounds given the current uncertainty – as there is a small but plausible risk that rare harms could turn out to outweigh modest benefits.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...zer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study
 
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So the government of my province, British Columbia, introduced a vaccine passport that is slated to go into effect on Monday. However, they haven't revealed the actual order to the public yet. I've been following a group called the Canadian Society for the Advancement of Science in Public Policy, who have already filed a lawsuit over various covid restrictions instituted in the province. Although a trial has not yet begun, various pre-trial motions have generally gone in their favor. Anyways, they filed a new request for a stay of the vaccine passports, and have a hearing for that set for this Monday between 10 am and 4 pm. Precise times are not available because the start time depends on when previous hearings that day end. I'm hopeful the court will at least grant the motion for a stay. No court has yet taken any action against various passports that have been or are being introduced across Canada, as it's all happened so fast and courts take forever to do anything, and the madness has to stop somewhere. Here's their website if you're interested:

covidconstitutionalchallengebc.ca

Status Updates — CSASPP

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The relevant post:

10 September, 2021: CSASPP Seeks Stay of Injection Passport Order​

Friends,

I have instructed counsel to bring a short leave application seeking a stay (pause) of the recently announced public health order mandating injection passports for a variety of public venues. The order is slated to take effect Monday 13 September, 2021.

We sought a copy of the order from Dr. Henry’s counsel to analyze, but are yet to receive it.

The government is already obtaining many of the benefits of an already partially implemented public policy with the province’s machinery already moving into place, but without any of the responsibilities that come with having to potentially defend against a judicial review of the order.

This is unsportsmanlike.

We will be asking the court to draw an inference adversarial to Dr. Henry’s interests and to stay the order until we have had adequate time to prepare an application seeking judicial review.

The hearing will be heard, unless bumped due to scheduling, on Monday 13 September, 2021 by teleconference for one hour at some time between 1000 to 1600. The litigants will likely not be physically present in the court house, but the judge may be. The court house is at the usual place of 800 Smithe Street, Vancouver.

Justice Crerar, although assigned as our judge in this proceeding, may not be available for this hearing and another judge may be assigned in his place.

I am advised by independent activists that they intend to be present outside the court house to show their support.

Given the short notice, we likely will not have time to arrange real-time public telephone access, but we will order transcripts to be made publicly available as soon as possible.

~ Kip
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