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Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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That POS Biden, yeah I said it, push the OHSA to force the vaccine despite their side effects.
And there's a good article on some inconvenient facts. https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...nient_facts_about_bidens_vaccine_mandate.html
And there's a good article on some inconvenient facts. https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...nient_facts_about_bidens_vaccine_mandate.html
Rei is shit
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NYTimes simps for vaccines
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The main reason I'm posting this article is because of this gem;
"That collective sacrifice is one reason there is overwhelming national support for many forms of vaccine mandates."
What does the NYTimes consider to be overwhelming national support? Why not even 60% in support of course.
But it gets better; "The margin of sampling error is +/- 3.2 percentage points." - This means the overwhelming support for vaccine mandates in bars and the like could be just 48% in favor.
Biden Is Right: Vaccine Refusal ‘Has Cost All of Us’
As Americans contemplate the prospect of a second winter trapped in the grip of Covid-19, remember that it didn’t need to be this way. Vaccines were developed in record time, and have proved to be both incredibly safe and stunningly effective. Nearly two-thirds of eligible Americans have accepted these facts and done their part by getting fully vaccinated.
Yet tens of millions more have not, allowing the more contagious Delta variant to sweep across the country, where it is now killing more than 1,500 people in the United States daily. Right now, the list of the very sick and the dead is made up almost entirely of the unvaccinated. But as long as the virus continues to spread widely, it can and will evolve in ways that put everyone at risk.
Faced with this avoidable catastrophe, President Biden is right to order tighter vaccine rules, which he did for roughly two-thirds of the nation’s work force on Thursday. “We’ve been patient,” Mr. Biden told vaccine holdouts. “But our patience is wearing thin. And your refusal has cost all of us.”
The president moved to require all executive branch employees, federal contractors and millions of health care workers to be vaccinated. Workers at private businesses with 100 or more employees will have to either get vaccinated or take a weekly Covid test. Any business covered by the order must offer its employees paid time off to get their shots or recover from any side effects.
As incursions on bodily autonomy go, this is pretty mild stuff. No one, the Times columnist David Brooks wrote in May, is being asked to storm the beaches of Iwo Jima.
Yet vaccine resisters carry on about violations of their freedom, ignoring the fact that they don’t live in a bubble, and that their decision to stay unvaccinated infringes on everyone else’s freedom — the freedom to move around the country, the freedom to visit safely with friends and family, the freedom to stay alive.
The Supreme Court made this point more than a century ago, when it upheld a fine against a Massachusetts man who refused to get the smallpox vaccine. In a majority opinion that echoes powerfully today, Justice John Marshall Harlan wrote, “Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others.”
Refusers’ hollow appeals to “freedom” are especially hard to take considering that Americans already accept countless restrictions in the name of safety: We are required to wear seatbelts, for example, and to get vaccinations to attend public school.
Speaking of school vaccination requirements, they’ve proven wildly effective. Thanks to vaccines, measles and the mumps were essentially eradicated in children, at least until vaccine opponents opened the door for them to return.
A small number of people have a legitimate reason to decline the vaccine — say, those with an allergy. Others, particularly racial minorities, are mistrustful because of their personal experiences with the health care system, or because the vaccines are relatively new. Still others have struggled to get time off work or have worried (mistakenly) about the cost.
Beyond these, it’s hard to understand any arguments against getting the shot. The vaccine made by Pfizer is now fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration, and the one by Moderna is expected to be shortly.
Mr. Biden’s vaccine rules are not simply about protecting lives, but rebuilding the economy — a goal one would think would be shared by those who spent 2020 railing against shutdowns. Instead, politicians like Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas have come out against the new rules, calling them an “assault on private businesses.” Mr. Abbott neglected to note that many of the nation’s largest private businesses are already requiring their employees be vaccinated, and a recent survey found that a majority of private businesses plan to do so by the end of the year.
Hopefully, the new vaccine rules will give the private sector cover to do the right thing and avoid political fights with state governments unwilling to protect their own residents, even as I.C.U.s swell to bursting.
Will there be a backlash? It’s already here. But there’s already a growing rage at those recalcitrant Americans unwilling to do their small part to end this pestilence. The anger is justified. All the lives put on hold in an effort to buy time for the vaccine to be developed. All those essential workers and health care workers who perished or were irrevocably harmed by the disease. Was all that heroic suffering for nothing?
That collective sacrifice is one reason there is overwhelming national support for many forms of vaccine mandates. One Republican pollster found that 2-to-1 majorities of residents in five swing states favor employer mandates.
The Biden administration has already done just about everything in its power to encourage people to get vaccinated, from putting out targeted advertisements, offering financial incentives and reminding people that the shots are free. Carrots haven’t been enough. That’s why Mr. Biden’s actions Thursday were courageous: If the goal is not to pander but to lead, tighter rules ensuring more people are vaccinated were the only meaningful option left.
In an ideal world, vaccine requirements (or weekly testing) wouldn’t be necessary. Americans would see that the coronavirus has already killed more than 4.6 million people worldwide. They would understand that vaccines are the single best tool we have to protect lives and restore the economy. They would be racing to the nearest pharmacy and consider themselves fortunate to be living in one of the few nations in the world where that’s possible.
If 2020 was agonizing — watching millions of our fellow citizens get sick and hundreds of thousands die — a replay in 2021 is infuriating. Ingenuity and investment have produced a rare medical miracle that could end this brutal pandemic, and yet millions of Americans are snubbing their noses at it, forgetting that being part of a society means looking out for one another.
Despite Mr. Biden’s actions this week, most public-health powers reside with states, so it’s essential that governors step up and issue their own mandates, particularly for eligible schoolchildren. The vaccine rules should have been extended to air travel as well.
To those who are still holding out on getting a vaccine: Spare us the appeals to freedom. If you are fed up with masking and distancing and shutdowns and all the other intrusions of a global pandemic, show some patriotism and humanity and get the shot.
Yet tens of millions more have not, allowing the more contagious Delta variant to sweep across the country, where it is now killing more than 1,500 people in the United States daily. Right now, the list of the very sick and the dead is made up almost entirely of the unvaccinated. But as long as the virus continues to spread widely, it can and will evolve in ways that put everyone at risk.
Faced with this avoidable catastrophe, President Biden is right to order tighter vaccine rules, which he did for roughly two-thirds of the nation’s work force on Thursday. “We’ve been patient,” Mr. Biden told vaccine holdouts. “But our patience is wearing thin. And your refusal has cost all of us.”
The president moved to require all executive branch employees, federal contractors and millions of health care workers to be vaccinated. Workers at private businesses with 100 or more employees will have to either get vaccinated or take a weekly Covid test. Any business covered by the order must offer its employees paid time off to get their shots or recover from any side effects.
As incursions on bodily autonomy go, this is pretty mild stuff. No one, the Times columnist David Brooks wrote in May, is being asked to storm the beaches of Iwo Jima.
Yet vaccine resisters carry on about violations of their freedom, ignoring the fact that they don’t live in a bubble, and that their decision to stay unvaccinated infringes on everyone else’s freedom — the freedom to move around the country, the freedom to visit safely with friends and family, the freedom to stay alive.
The Supreme Court made this point more than a century ago, when it upheld a fine against a Massachusetts man who refused to get the smallpox vaccine. In a majority opinion that echoes powerfully today, Justice John Marshall Harlan wrote, “Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others.”
Refusers’ hollow appeals to “freedom” are especially hard to take considering that Americans already accept countless restrictions in the name of safety: We are required to wear seatbelts, for example, and to get vaccinations to attend public school.
Speaking of school vaccination requirements, they’ve proven wildly effective. Thanks to vaccines, measles and the mumps were essentially eradicated in children, at least until vaccine opponents opened the door for them to return.
A small number of people have a legitimate reason to decline the vaccine — say, those with an allergy. Others, particularly racial minorities, are mistrustful because of their personal experiences with the health care system, or because the vaccines are relatively new. Still others have struggled to get time off work or have worried (mistakenly) about the cost.
Beyond these, it’s hard to understand any arguments against getting the shot. The vaccine made by Pfizer is now fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration, and the one by Moderna is expected to be shortly.
Mr. Biden’s vaccine rules are not simply about protecting lives, but rebuilding the economy — a goal one would think would be shared by those who spent 2020 railing against shutdowns. Instead, politicians like Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas have come out against the new rules, calling them an “assault on private businesses.” Mr. Abbott neglected to note that many of the nation’s largest private businesses are already requiring their employees be vaccinated, and a recent survey found that a majority of private businesses plan to do so by the end of the year.
Hopefully, the new vaccine rules will give the private sector cover to do the right thing and avoid political fights with state governments unwilling to protect their own residents, even as I.C.U.s swell to bursting.
Will there be a backlash? It’s already here. But there’s already a growing rage at those recalcitrant Americans unwilling to do their small part to end this pestilence. The anger is justified. All the lives put on hold in an effort to buy time for the vaccine to be developed. All those essential workers and health care workers who perished or were irrevocably harmed by the disease. Was all that heroic suffering for nothing?
That collective sacrifice is one reason there is overwhelming national support for many forms of vaccine mandates. One Republican pollster found that 2-to-1 majorities of residents in five swing states favor employer mandates.
The Biden administration has already done just about everything in its power to encourage people to get vaccinated, from putting out targeted advertisements, offering financial incentives and reminding people that the shots are free. Carrots haven’t been enough. That’s why Mr. Biden’s actions Thursday were courageous: If the goal is not to pander but to lead, tighter rules ensuring more people are vaccinated were the only meaningful option left.
In an ideal world, vaccine requirements (or weekly testing) wouldn’t be necessary. Americans would see that the coronavirus has already killed more than 4.6 million people worldwide. They would understand that vaccines are the single best tool we have to protect lives and restore the economy. They would be racing to the nearest pharmacy and consider themselves fortunate to be living in one of the few nations in the world where that’s possible.
If 2020 was agonizing — watching millions of our fellow citizens get sick and hundreds of thousands die — a replay in 2021 is infuriating. Ingenuity and investment have produced a rare medical miracle that could end this brutal pandemic, and yet millions of Americans are snubbing their noses at it, forgetting that being part of a society means looking out for one another.
Despite Mr. Biden’s actions this week, most public-health powers reside with states, so it’s essential that governors step up and issue their own mandates, particularly for eligible schoolchildren. The vaccine rules should have been extended to air travel as well.
To those who are still holding out on getting a vaccine: Spare us the appeals to freedom. If you are fed up with masking and distancing and shutdowns and all the other intrusions of a global pandemic, show some patriotism and humanity and get the shot.
Opinion | Biden Is Right: Vaccine Refusal ‘Has Cost All of Us’
Requiring Covid vaccines is necessary to safeguard the country.
Opinion | Biden Is Right: Vaccine Refusal ‘Has Cost All of Us’
Requiring Covid vaccines is necessary to safeguard the country.
The main reason I'm posting this article is because of this gem;
"That collective sacrifice is one reason there is overwhelming national support for many forms of vaccine mandates."
What does the NYTimes consider to be overwhelming national support? Why not even 60% in support of course.
But it gets better; "The margin of sampling error is +/- 3.2 percentage points." - This means the overwhelming support for vaccine mandates in bars and the like could be just 48% in favor.
Super-Chevy454
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In other words, the NYT had been cucked by Pzifer. 
Btw, the Fraudci documentary trailer got 47K dislikes vs 3.5K likes.
Btw, the Fraudci documentary trailer got 47K dislikes vs 3.5K likes.
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On the other hand, someone at NYT isn't a big fan:
www.nytimes.com
Bottom link in ungated.
Opinion | Biden’s Vaccine Mandate Is a Big Mistake
Vaccines work. But a mandate by the federal executive is an overreach that may backfire.
Bottom link in ungated.
Getting tard comed
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Lina Colorado
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@NJBear This chick got a few screws loose. True evil vibes.
How about NO.
How about NO.
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As many of us have thought, we have to hope the Court strikes down this agency overreach by OSHA. I am none to confident in these prick lawyers.
Shidoshi
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After learning about Fauci's Wuhan lab research I think we are eerily close to the plotline of a game that came out in 2000.
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Guy who wrote fiction with strawman characters corrects himself about making a false claim about FL death numbers and proceeds to slam governor for cheap political points.
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Protests in France look to be getting a bit violent over the Pass Sanitaire (https://archive.md/az2v7) in Paris, Marseille, Toulouse, Nice and other frog cities. 9th weekend of protests over the pass. Brussels, Belgium also has protests and Bern, Switzerland. Further videos of Paris (archive) of police under attack and undercovers being recognised by civilians in Toulouse. Embeds of video working on archiving more but newfag to this.
UK proving as wet as ever. BBC run with story of vaccine pass making someone 'hesistant to get jab' (archive) and fear mongering about illegal raves and houseparties because how dare the peasants have fun. PM set to unveil winter plan later, might open a betting pool for how many 'we won't have an october lockdown' promises are made and set to be broken.
UK proving as wet as ever. BBC run with story of vaccine pass making someone 'hesistant to get jab' (archive) and fear mongering about illegal raves and houseparties because how dare the peasants have fun. PM set to unveil winter plan later, might open a betting pool for how many 'we won't have an october lockdown' promises are made and set to be broken.
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Takeaways:
Double dosed vaccinated people are more likely to catch Covid than the unvaccinated. The numbers have been reported per 100,000 population, not gross numbers. So there is no need to debate demographic differences this is now confirmed.
The report states that the unvaccinated are substantially less likely to become severely unwell. We can debate whether this is actually the case as I don't know the testing protocols for hospital admissions in the UK. Are all unvaccinated people admitted to hospital being tested and the vaccinated only if they're exhibiting symptoms of Covid? However lets assume this is true this is NOT good. The people who will die of Covid, the immunocompromised and severely morbid, are more at risk when interacting with the vaccinated as they are less likely to be symptomatic and further they will assume they cannot be carriers because they've been vaccinated and their behaviour will reflect this.
It also utterly destroys any and all justifications for Covid passports. The vaccinated are literal Typhoid Marys.
If you have someone in your family who is at high risk, especially if they're medically unable to be vaccinated, advise them to avoid any interactions with the vaccinated.
The vaccines aren't vaccines. They don't confer any immunity as not only do they not stop transmission and replication in the vaccinated they in fact enhance it. Bear this in mind and consider the recent redefinition of vaccine to mean 'protection' against a virus and not immunity. The fuckers have known all along.
We'll see where this ends up. We can be sure that in countries (like mine) that are only relying on the vaccines for herd immunity case numbers will continue to explode higher.
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As a resident of the cornfield
I often vacation in the rustbelt.
It has everything one could love for vacations. Beaches a megalopolis commuter trains vast woodland. And some of best fried chicken in all the land. Granted there is massive abandoned infrastructure and the roads are Mad Max levels of dangerous.
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I wonder if England might see anti-passports riots as big as the 2011 riots?
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I’m honestly feeling really disgusted about news outlets using people’s deaths to further this vaccine stuff. It’s horrible. I would never want my loved ones death to be used for clickbait
it’s really sick
it’s really sick
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The thing that might be the worst part of all of this (it was starting even before this whole thing, but it's accelerated, and don't get me started on the surveillance and thought crime culture) is watching western countries adopt more and more of Chinese culture. In particular it shouldn't be a shock that Canada and Australia have been two of the more oppressive countries with their strong Chinese ties, and it's sad to see so many in the US demanding that you follow suit. "Sure you can have your freedom, you just can't be as free as others if you don't kowtow to what the state demands of you." We're not talking about the freedom of movement being restricted because you've committed some high crime like murder or rape, or even something lesser like theft, but rather we're talking about not wanting to take a fucking flu shot.
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