Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[MadStan]

I just read a very interesting report that had some data taken from University of Rochester Medical Center and others about some interesting reviews of "imprinting" with Covid-19.

I had myself wondered why the government went with mRNA technology so quickly when a common produced vaccine seemed like the way to go.

We were told speed was of the essence, but this data suggests something else was a foot. Moreover, they knew it but said nothing - probably because most of the public would have been confused by it - shit I still am but I am getting my head around it.

The data is suggesting that those that get a regular vaccine and/or are exposed to a natural infection are more likely going to suffer from imprinting and their immune systems will stop being very effective against Covid mutations.

Whereas with the vaccines using mRNA instead what will happen is that efficacy will drop, but updated mRNA vaccines with new coding will restore high levels of immunity - the reason is that the mRNA vaccine is having the immune system develop in a different way, whereas natural infection or using a "dead virus" exposes the persons immune system to another region of the virus that can be responsible for "imprinting" and thus the different anti-bodies do in fact differ.

So a vaccine using mRNA does impart something a "regular" vaccine or exposure does not - but what it is imparting is an omission rather than commission to prevent imprinting.

I'll try to read more on it to get a better grasp of the mechanisms at play, but it it beginning to paint a picture of why some countries were so ready to go ahead with mRNA - they were told something probably in confidence that couldn't be told to the public about the nature of the mRNA and why they should opt in on it versus a regular vaccine.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

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an entire nation of Denny Cranes, the horror!

seriously though don't you think if this did end up creating zombies and considering whats going on in israel. how completely fucked a lot of the population of the chosen people would be. that there would be more pushback by jews in power. think savings&loan crash instead of 2008 crash.

most of the jews that havent taken the shot at this point are probably orthodox, and if you wanted to force a progressive agenda, being outnumbered 10 to 1 by people that know your playbook is literally the opposite of what you want.

the worst case is clearly a shitload of autoimmunes happening all of a sudden, anything beyond that would have gotten a shitload of executives mass suiciding by now. just breaking down the demographics of the vaxxed vs unvaxxed. either side suffering any more than needing a pills to survive would break this empire.

plus even if this did cause a rage/zombie scenario. most zombie games have a lot better ratio than 2 to 1, or even 9 to 1 in israel. it would be a pretty quick apocalypse.

 

[Tree]

I just read a very interesting report that had some data taken from University of Rochester Medical Center and others about some interesting reviews of "imprinting" with Covid-19.

I had myself wondered why the government went with mRNA technology so quickly when a common produced vaccine seemed like the way to go.

We were told speed was of the essence, but this data suggests something else was a foot. Moreover, they knew it but said nothing - probably because most of the public would have been confused by it - shit I still am but I am getting my head around it.

The data is suggesting that those that get a regular vaccine and/or are exposed to a natural infection are more likely going to suffer from imprinting and their immune systems will stop being very effective against Covid mutations.

Whereas with the vaccines using mRNA instead what will happen is that efficacy will drop, but updated mRNA vaccines with new coding will restore high levels of immunity - the reason is that the mRNA vaccine is having the immune system develop in a different way, whereas natural infection or using a "dead virus" exposes the persons immune system to another region of the virus that can be responsible for "imprinting" and thus the different anti-bodies do in fact differ.

So a vaccine using mRNA does impart something a "regular" vaccine or exposure does not - but what it is imparting is an omission rather than commission to prevent imprinting.

I'll try to read more on it to get a better grasp of the mechanisms at play, but it it beginning to paint a picture of why some countries were so ready to go ahead with mRNA - they were told something probably in confidence that couldn't be told to the public about the nature of the mRNA and why they should opt in on it versus a regular vaccine.

Why wouldn't they be able to tell that to the public?

 

[Kramer on the phone]

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so 1/2 causalities of this was supposed to be entirely american (the most diverse ni every meaning and therefore hardest to kill population if you wanted to target) and despite 66% of americans dying our GDP drops by 85% even though our latest tax records show roughly half of americans are burdens on our wonderful government. (children, prisoners, and the elderly making up a good chunk of that)

This also apparently shows our government deciding to stop paying out retirement or health benefits to all soldiers, which wouldn't help recruitment but would help drive up anti-government militas and double agents. hell $32 billion doesn't even keep the nukes safe, and when you think about how many veterans have a Jimmy Carter-esque knowledge of our nuclear triad, forecasting a population of just under 7 billion when you told 5% of the US population they have nothing to lose, is pretty fucking optimistic, especially when that 5% is exclusively made up of veterans trained in every area you can think of from explosives to logistics to operating nuclear submarines.

i'm not saying this graph is bullshit. i'm just saying the forecast, while grim. is clearly out of place if you knew anything about our current government's spending allocation or population. do you know how many people rely entirely on those retirement benefits to live? about a quarter million people minimum, and its not a bunch of lazy thugs or retards collecting from the government. its almost all senior officers and NCOs, you cut them off they have about 30 days before they have to hang themselves because their house will be taken from them, but luckily they'd probably starve before then. and even if they did do ok for themselves post-service. they're guaranteed to know someone who didn't. you think Isabella Jenke was a piece of work, imagine what her parents would do once the government drew first blood. and now realize they are the most well put together career officers. but as you can see when a loved one or maybe everyone in their old unit needs some help, they're willing to put out a lot of stops.

Again i'm not saying that graph is as true as that penis preference graph pol keeps shoving everywhere, but it would be rather odd to forecast a total overthrow of the US government by a military coup, which then proceeds not to change the military budget and also manages to avoid using any one of the multiple nukes in its arsenal against any other country. AND BEYOND THAT THE NON-US POPULATION WOULD DROP A LOT MORE THAN 250M WHEN YOU FACTOR IN EVERY COUNTRY RELYING ON THE US DOLLAR.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Why wouldn't they be able to tell that to the public?

Panic

I believe thats one of the ways AIDS exhausts the immune system. Continual attack...eventually your immune system stop caring.


Only the mutations here are happening outside the body

 

[BiggerChungus]

idk nigga, tell that to the Taliban and the Viet Cong. People talk a lot of shit about the might of the US army but there are plenty of examples throughout history of enormous, overpowered militaries having incredible trouble winning against an entrenched guerilla army on their own turf. They could nuke us, assuming they were able to find military personnel willing to deploy nuclear weaponry on american soil, but they would inevitably end up killing a lot of their own supporters. That would lose them a lot of their accumulated power, even under the assumption that their supporters would want opponents killed via nuclear blast. The sorts of tactics necessary to brute-force overpower near half of their own heavily armed citizenry would be extremely costly to them and there's no guarantee they'd come out on top. There are reasons beyond money that TPTB can't just blast us all into oblivion. The "consent of the governed" saying isn't just moralistic fluff, there are very real practical reasons that you need the general population to agree to follow your lead if you want to maintain power.

Some of you guys get way too blackpilled about this sort of thing and should maybe take a break from doomscrolling for your own well-being tbh

The Viet Cong were mostly wiped out after the Tet Offensive and weren't the main threat to the US and ARVN, that was the NVA, a professional army with tanks, jets, rockets, artillery, and the backing of another superpower, all while we were very demoralized from psyops and other crazy shit going on at home sanctioned and promoted by our own government that evidently didn't want to try winning the war. The Taliban were half a world away in very rugged country and also had access to military weapons, a few tanks, and rockets, and there was nothing to gain from beating them so no one tried quite as much as they could have. Compare Desert Storm with the Taliban insurgency. If we wanted total victory, we would've gotten it, and the same goes for here at home. Every gun owner with their guns in the country combined wouldn't match the firepower of a single mobilized military regiment. No one owns a single functioning combat tank or has the means to supply antiques. No one owns military jets or helicopters or sophisticated rocket artillery. No nation is going to back us because the same people who've got the US on payroll have the entire rest of the Western world on payroll.

The only other potential thing that could hold them back is military unwillingness, I agree there, but it wouldn't be a widespread problem. They'd fabricate some outrage to get the military on board, anyone who dissented would just get tossed a couple hundred grand to keep their mouths shut, and if that didn't work they'd just "disappear." The US has plenty of rural, rugged places, but they don't make up the majority of the country and aren't where most people live. Plus we're on home turf, right next to bases and other installations. No deployment needed. An organized rebellion in the US that posed even a remote military threat to the powers that be would be shut down within a week, or overnight if they didn't care about collateral damage and just sought to wipe out everyone involved. No force in this country, even an organized desertion from the military, would be able to do anything to threaten the powers that be. Unlike the Taliban, a movement here wouldn't be a half-the-world-away uprising against a government we don't care about that doesn't profit us in any way.

It's blackpill talk sure, but it's the truth. Our rights and our freedoms are charities given by the top so we stay in line and keep producing and giving them their money. They don't want to wipe us out because it'd cost them a ton of cash and resources, and egomaniacs want a cozy empire to keep lording over, which is exactly what they're doing. As Huxley said, we're a dictatorship that calls itself democracy, and a prison that has no walls. Most people don't know, many who do don't care, and the few who would try to change it would be crushed almost instantly. At any second, every right we have could be revoked, anyone who opposed it could be killed, and there's nothing you or I or anyone could ever do to stop or even hinder it. It's just the way the world is, fucked up beyond all repair and ruled by moneyhungry sociopaths with all the power in the world at their fingertips, restrained only by their own greed and rivalries between each other, and again, in my opinion and if you're faithful, maybe an act of Providence.

In my opinion anyway, there's no hope for this world and hasn't been for a very long time. We may as well enjoy what we've got.

 

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Looks like the rich Jews in the global elite once again are set to screw over all the not-so-rich Jews. Just like the New York/London banker Jews making money off the Nazis back in the 30s.

At least the Palestinians will get most of their land back.

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Here's hoping that 605 billion we trim from the military budget goes somewhere useful.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

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Where did you get that forecast?

 

[MadStan]

Why wouldn't they be able to tell that to the public?

Because of the implication.

The implication of the data is suggesting that with this particular virus, repeated exposures may in fact result in imprinting which means you will not develop a good response to the latter variants. It also suggests previous exposures to related coronaviruses hinders new and proper responses to Covid-19.

Why is this something you do not want to tell the public? Because the interpretation is that after repeated exposures your body breaks down in it's response - rather than get better at it. In other words it could help to explain why the older you are the more chance of getting bad covid, it isn't because you were an old fart - it is because you actually had a robust immune response.

Moreover, it explains why we may be seeing the age of those having severe reactions lowering month to month - their bodies are effectively getting exposure and eventually they lose the battle and start to have severe infections. We are seeing the age ranges drop month to month. It used to be over 75, then 70,65,60,55 and now middle aged people and some younger ones are showing severe cases.

The extrapolation is therefore eventually our darling kids could eventually start to suffer the same mortality rate as the elderly if the data holds true or in the least, suffer a marked increase in deaths.

Public panic.

How would you like to go to a gym full of kids and say "hello kids, (there are 400), we are going to hand out tickets - 4 of you will be killed today". No one would send their kid to that school. And followed by "And we are doing this lottery once a year for 10 years".

The question of whether vaccination imprints as well is now being researched aggressively but the data at this time suggests that it does imprint, but not the same as non-mRNA vaccine or natural exposure, but this means we are opening the door to a super-vaccine resistant virus to emerge.

Public Panic.

So there isn't at this stage anyway to give a good news story at this time. The research on this is in infancy but the suggestion is that we are bound to vaccines and updated mRNAs possibly indefinitely and worse, that if vaccination fails as a result of resistance development, then the only solution will be elimination of the virus which would require a global shut down and imprisonment for 2 months.

Perhaps those troops are needed back home after all.

EDIT:

Just to add, another possible outcome is that those that get infected FIRST can never get the best outcome from a vaccine shot in the future due to imprinting. On the other hand, if the vaccine imprints also, then future variants if different enough may render the vaccine and natural immunity as null and void.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Why wouldn't they be able to tell that to the public?

Panic

I believe thats one of the ways AIDS exhausts the immune system. Continual attack...eventually your immune system stop caring.


Only the mutations here are happening outside the body

 

[The handsome tard]

Because of the implication.

The implication of the data is suggesting that with this particular virus, repeated exposures may in fact result in imprinting which means you will not develop a good response to the latter variants. It also suggests previous exposures to related coronaviruses hinders new and proper responses to Covid-19.

Why is this something you do not want to tell the public? Because the interpretation is that after repeated exposures your body breaks down in it's response - rather than get better at it. In other words it could help to explain why the older you are the more chance of getting bad covid, it isn't because you were an old fart - it is because you actually had a robust immune response.

Moreover, it explains why we may be seeing the age of those having severe reactions lowering month to month - their bodies are effectively getting exposure and eventually they lose the battle and start to have severe infections. We are seeing the age ranges drop month to month. It used to be over 75, then 70,65,60,55 and now middle aged people and some younger ones are showing severe cases.

The extrapolation is therefore eventually our darling kids could eventually start to suffer the same mortality rate as the elderly if the data holds true or in the least, suffer a marked increase in deaths.

Public panic.

How would you like to go to a gym full of kids and say "hello kids, (there are 400), we are going to hand out tickets - 4 of you will be killed today". No one would send their kid to that school. And followed by "And we are doing this lottery once a year for 10 years".

The question of whether vaccination imprints as well is now being researched aggressively but the data at this time suggests that it does imprint, but not the same as non-mRNA vaccine or natural exposure, but this means we are opening the door to a super-vaccine resistant virus to emerge.

Public Panic.

So there isn't at this stage anyway to give a good news story at this time. The research on this is in infancy but the suggestion is that we are bound to vaccines and updated mRNAs possibly indefinitely and worse, that if vaccination fails as a result of resistance development, then the only solution will be elimination of the virus which would require a global shut down and imprisonment for 2 months.

Perhaps those troops are needed back home after all.

EDIT:

Just to add, another possible outcome is that those that get infected FIRST can never get the best outcome from a vaccine shot in the future due to imprinting. On the other hand, if the vaccine imprints also, then future variants if different enough may render the vaccine and natural immunity as null and void.,

Sorry but I cant buy any of this voodoo bullshit. No offense. It makes no sense.

the french can protest all they want, unless they can convince the rest of the citizens in their country its just going to be like the last 20 years, where 40% of the country has a different opinion but the rest of it decides to go full retard just for spite.

seriously, this isn't a "french" protest its a conservative protest just like whats been happening in brazil and other places on and off since at least 9/11. At a certain point retards need to realize protests and civil disobedience won't get you out of this mess as easily as convincing the people around you that you're right. its like the yellow vest protests or truck strikes. lots of people who whine but dont realize it all falls on deaf fears once election time comes.

I respectfully disagree. The whole point of these protests serve as a warning to the establishment from the silent majority. Its to show that the media is wrong when they claim that everyone is on board with this.

Politicians only respond to money and power. They are already bribed so threats of power are the way to go. Now, not that I think its entirely efficient but its like showing off your army, you dont use it but its certainly saying that "it wont be pretty if you force us to use it tho."

Its to "remind" politicians that if we "snap", there arent enough cops to stop us from getting them and that they arent representing the will of the people (a very dangerous game).

The lines are being drawn finally.

 

[Protistology]

Looks like the rich Sabbateans in the global elite once again are set to screw over all the not-so-rich Jews. Just like the New York/London banker Sabbateans making money off the Nazis back in the 30s.

Where did you get that forecast?

On The Shocking 2025 ‘Deagel’ Forecast: War, Population Reduction, & …

archived 24 Aug 2021 14:46:05 UTC

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[Knight of the Rope]

<all of that nonsense>

Cool story bro. I imagine you're doing this as some sort of "lol this is what you anti-vaxxers sound like", but you'll observe that those of us here that are critical of the vaccine rollout/mandates are actually supporting our arguments with links and data and graphs and shit.

 

[ddw]

Sauce. (https://archive.md/9vjX7) Quoting the article, looks like some of the more egregious powers are going - "Johnson will reveal that the government is repealing some of the most draconian coronavirus legislation. Ministers will keep the right to force schools to stay open and make firms pay statutory sick pay, but powers to close down sectors of the economy will end," and "The ability to detain those who are infectious will also be scrapped." No sigh of relief that this is all over yet. Bojo loves a U turn, but glad they're scrapped for now.
Edit because I forgot we're a union- what about Scotland now? They're still going ahead with passes.

i genuinely think whatever he says first is his actual take but then tptb poison him dio style or something and hold him at gunpoint to do their bidding

 

[General Disarray]

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I had that page in my history; funny enough it's gone from Deagal now - just like the "Database Unavailable" message on the Bureau of Labor Statistics page right after his speech touting his job creation numbers. Luckily a kiwi over in the Biden thread got the screenshot.

It's definitely an information war on this prison planet.

 

[Protistology]

I had that page in my history; funny enough it's gone from Deagal now - just like the "Database Unavailable" message on the Bureau of Labor Statistics page right after his speech touting his job creation numbers. Luckily a kiwi over in the Biden thread got the screenshot.

It's definitely an information war on this prison planet.

Holy shit

 

[Escaped Abortion]

Because of the implication.

The implication of the data is suggesting that with this particular virus, repeated exposures may in fact result in imprinting which means you will not develop a good response to the latter variants. It also suggests previous exposures to related coronaviruses hinders new and proper responses to Covid-19.

Why is this something you do not want to tell the public? Because the interpretation is that after repeated exposures your body breaks down in it's response - rather than get better at it. In other words it could help to explain why the older you are the more chance of getting bad covid, it isn't because you were an old fart - it is because you actually had a robust immune response.

Moreover, it explains why we may be seeing the age of those having severe reactions lowering month to month - their bodies are effectively getting exposure and eventually they lose the battle and start to have severe infections. We are seeing the age ranges drop month to month. It used to be over 75, then 70,65,60,55 and now middle aged people and some younger ones are showing severe cases.

The extrapolation is therefore eventually our darling kids could eventually start to suffer the same mortality rate as the elderly if the data holds true or in the least, suffer a marked increase in deaths.

Public panic.

How would you like to go to a gym full of kids and say "hello kids, (there are 400), we are going to hand out tickets - 4 of you will be killed today". No one would send their kid to that school. And followed by "And we are doing this lottery once a year for 10 years".

The question of whether vaccination imprints as well is now being researched aggressively but the data at this time suggests that it does imprint, but not the same as non-mRNA vaccine or natural exposure, but this means we are opening the door to a super-vaccine resistant virus to emerge.

Public Panic.

So there isn't at this stage anyway to give a good news story at this time. The research on this is in infancy but the suggestion is that we are bound to vaccines and updated mRNAs possibly indefinitely and worse, that if vaccination fails as a result of resistance development, then the only solution will be elimination of the virus which would require a global shut down and imprisonment for 2 months.

Perhaps those troops are needed back home after all.

EDIT:

Just to add, another possible outcome is that those that get infected FIRST can never get the best outcome from a vaccine shot in the future due to imprinting. On the other hand, if the vaccine imprints also, then future variants if different enough may render the vaccine and natural immunity as null and void.

So, you just found out original antigenic sin is a thing? Well, it's a thing for plenty, maybe even all viruses you have managed to live your entire life with up until this point. However, with natural immunity you are going to make antibodies to many different points of the virus, not just one protein. Even if your T cells just phone in a response, the virus is very unlikely to have changed every antigen within itself, so some of them are going to work. If anything, the shot is more likely to exasperate this problem since it will only cause the body to recall how to make vanilla Wuhan spike protein forever. Or sure, maybe it wears off without producing any lasting immunity. At that point we might as well just dope ourselves with the white blood cell treatment from Regeneron every few months because at least those aren't destructive to our own cells like the spike protein shots are.

Did you buy that phone that kept exploding too, because maybe blowing up something would be handy? "It's not a bug, it's a feature!"

 

[Protistology]

While we're on the projections:

Britain is fucked.

 

[4AMPudding]

Because of the implication.

The implication of the data is suggesting that with this particular virus, repeated exposures may in fact result in imprinting which means you will not develop a good response to the latter variants. It also suggests previous exposures to related coronaviruses hinders new and proper responses to Covid-19.

Why is this something you do not want to tell the public? Because the interpretation is that after repeated exposures your body breaks down in it's response - rather than get better at it. In other words it could help to explain why the older you are the more chance of getting bad covid, it isn't because you were an old fart - it is because you actually had a robust immune response.

Moreover, it explains why we may be seeing the age of those having severe reactions lowering month to month - their bodies are effectively getting exposure and eventually they lose the battle and start to have severe infections. We are seeing the age ranges drop month to month. It used to be over 75, then 70,65,60,55 and now middle aged people and some younger ones are showing severe cases.

The extrapolation is therefore eventually our darling kids could eventually start to suffer the same mortality rate as the elderly if the data holds true or in the least, suffer a marked increase in deaths.

Public panic.

How would you like to go to a gym full of kids and say "hello kids, (there are 400), we are going to hand out tickets - 4 of you will be killed today". No one would send their kid to that school. And followed by "And we are doing this lottery once a year for 10 years".

The question of whether vaccination imprints as well is now being researched aggressively but the data at this time suggests that it does imprint, but not the same as non-mRNA vaccine or natural exposure, but this means we are opening the door to a super-vaccine resistant virus to emerge.

Public Panic.

So there isn't at this stage anyway to give a good news story at this time. The research on this is in infancy but the suggestion is that we are bound to vaccines and updated mRNAs possibly indefinitely and worse, that if vaccination fails as a result of resistance development, then the only solution will be elimination of the virus which would require a global shut down and imprisonment for 2 months.

Perhaps those troops are needed back home after all.

EDIT:

Just to add, another possible outcome is that those that get infected FIRST can never get the best outcome from a vaccine shot in the future due to imprinting. On the other hand, if the vaccine imprints also, then future variants if different enough may render the vaccine and natural immunity as null and void.

I'm sure you think you sound smart but you're spouting more bullshit than even the most crazy alien-believeing conspiracy theorists.

 

[Drain Todger]

Leaked hospital staff Zoom meeting that will make your blood fucking boil:

https://twitter.com/TeresaFreeThink/status/1436737793783390208

Teresa AnnMarie on Twitter: "National File has obtained a recording o…

archived 12 Sep 2021 03:25:53 UTC

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