Infected Euphoric atheists

[AnOminous]

These edgelords are still kicking? I can't not imagine a 'Church of Satan' as being anything but a collective of the most miserable, humorless, colorless fucks alive who can only truly get off on pretending they're tweaking the nose of God.

The last "Satanist" who wasn't a completely cringy, retarded edgelord was Crowley. And he was an edgelord of course, just not a completely cringy, retarded one.

 

[Slap47]

Why do people think this is some big own?

I oppose the death penalty and think some abortion is fine, but yet don't see hypocrisy. The Christian Right believe that fetuses are innocent babies and the death penalty is supposed to be reserved for hardened criminals.

 

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Why do people think this is some big own?

I oppose the death penalty and think some abortion is fine, but yet don't see hypocrisy. The Christian Right believe that fetuses are innocent babies and the death penalty is supposed to be reserved for hardened criminals.

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Looks like he isn't getting much love for that take. Still more than he should be.

 

[Slap47]

Inshallah....

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Can't remember if I posted this here already or somewhere else, or not at all. But you know what they say, a good joke is funny more than once. So is cringe.

 

[Slap47]

At this point, the Satanic Temple should explicitly be declared to not be a religion for legal purposes. It’s already just a bunch of left-wing atheists abusing religious freedom laws to try to protect their political sacred cows, so don’t even give them the chance to play their game. It’s not like they want to protect religious freedoms that don’t hurt anyone, they just want to use RFRA to justify infanticide, which would be absolutely vile if they were true believers.

Just go for the mid ground and tax the churches heavily.

 

[Mnutu]

There's a lot of different variations on Gnosticism, and since Gnostism was labelled a far-right hate group and deplatformed for a couple thousand years, there's both a) little information on the beliefs and practices of any specific gnostic sect, and b) no single governing body that arose and declared what gnosticism canonically "was".

That said - yes, sort of.

Gnosticism is basically The Matrix as a religion. Gnostics share a common belief that the physical world around us - the carnal world of the senses - is in some sense "false". It's an illussion, maybe even a prison, maybe even hell. Gnostics further assert that there is another world - a higher, spiritual world, a world of truth and beauty and purity - which is normally hidden from us, but can be made accessible if you have the proper knowledge (or "gnosis").

Picture yourself on Reddit. You have always been on Reddit. You have never been to any other part of the internet, and you probably don't know that any other part of the internet exists. The Reddit jannies start harassing you; banning your favorites subreddits, giving you warnings because you want to eat food instead of bugs, deleting any thread you make that's even remotely critical of trannies. You start to get this sneaking suspicion that you're living in Clown World; that Reddit is not, in fact, reality, but is in instead some kind miserable, spiteful, passive-aggressive purgatory in which you've somehow become trapped. Eventually, an old, bearded sage comes by, a traveler from New Zealand he says, and he gives unto you a magical formula. He tells you about a thing called a "URL bar", and you discover that you can use this secret knowledge to escape Reddit and cast yourself into a whole new world - an "internet", millions of pages and communities unmoderated by fat, middle-aged trannies who want you to eat bugs.

That's Gnosticism. More or less.

As for Satan; some Gnostics think Satan's a good guy, yes. Many Gnostics believe that the god of the physical world, a being called the Demiurge, is evil. In some traditions, the Demiurge is identified as the God of the Bible, the Jewish God YHWH. The Demiurge is not ACTUALLY "God", as in, God the Ultimate Being, Creator of the Universe - rather, He is an imperfect emanation of the True God, and His main goal in life is to keep normies from ever actually coming to know the True God who resides in the Spiritual/ Gnostic/ Morpheus/ Kiwifarms realm that the Gnostic practitioner is striving to access.

But that then begs the question of, is Satan opposed to the Demiurge? Or is the Demiurge Satan?

A very popular contemporary interpretation is that "the Biblical serpent", or "Lucifer", or "Satan" (who aren't necessarily all the same being) are in fact good guys, master trolls who are trying to fuck with the Demiurge, e.g. by giving Eve the Apple of Knowledge, in hopes of freeing her from the Demiurge's globohomo AI censorship grid. But that's not necessarily how any given trad Gnostic would have viewed the story. It's possible that, for example, the serpent was the Demiurge, and the apple actually imprisoned Eve (and Adam, and all the rest of us poor fuckers) in the Demiurge's anti-Eden "real world". Again, there's no canon Gnosticism, so it's anyone's guess.

Yeah, but most Gnostic groups accepted wacky shit like the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Judas, wherein Christ as a child runs around murdering people for no reason until Mary says “that’s wrong” and he brings them back to life and Judas was secretly the bestest of all the apostles because he killed Christ and then himself to free them from the Demiurge.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Just go for the mid ground and tax the churches heavily.

That really is just going to play into their hand, though. The Satanic Temple has a lot of powerful backers that can take the tax burden, but your small-town church relying on the tithes of blue-collar members to stay afloat isn't going to be able to survive under those taxes. Taxing religious institutions is a form of persecution, and the theoretical above is exactly why that is the case.

 

[AnOminous]

That really is just going to play into their hand, though. The Satanic Temple has a lot of powerful backers that can take the tax burden, but your small-town church relying on the tithes of blue-collar members to stay afloat isn't going to be able to survive under those taxes. Taxing religious institutions is a form of persecution, and the theoretical above is exactly why that is the case.

501(c)(3) status is not just for churches, which are merely one of the categories of such groups. They are quite simply corporations operated not for profit, none of whose income inures to the benefit of any person, and which operate for a number of purposes enumerated in the statute they're named after, generally involving a public benefit.

This need not be actually beneficial. "Public benefit" is a nebulous concept and generally involves advocacy of something, whether it is a religion or some ideological concept, or actual charity, or something the supporters of the group consider good.

There are even white nationalist groups with 501(c)(3) status. And then there's the obvious Xenufags.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

501(c)(3) status is not just for churches, which are merely one of the categories of such groups. They are quite simply corporations operated not for profit, none of whose income inures to the benefit of any person, and which operate for a number of purposes enumerated in the statute they're named after, generally involving a public benefit.

This need not be actually beneficial. "Public benefit" is a nebulous concept and generally involves advocacy of something, whether it is a religion or some ideological concept, or actual charity, or something the supporters of the group consider good.

There are even white nationalist groups with 501(c)(3) status. And then there's the obvious Xenufags.

Even so, the consequences of completely doing away with 501(c)(3) status is clear. Super PACs and a certain Scam Cult utilizing the status to have bigger war chests will likely just have slightly smaller coffers if they lose tax exemption, but smaller organizations who fit the genuine purpose of 501(c)(3) will be destroyed under the burden of taxes. There is no simple solution, but one could likely start by clarifying what “public benefit” entails.

 

[Mnutu]

Even so, the consequences of completely doing away with 501(c)(3) status is clear. Super PACs and a certain Scam Cult utilizing the status to have bigger war chests will likely just have slightly smaller coffers if they lose tax exemption, but smaller organizations who fit the genuine purpose of 501(c)(3) will be destroyed under the burden of taxes. There is no simple solution, but one could likely start by clarifying what “public benefit” entails.

Best solution is to have a public poll of average people who’d be asked “do you think they actually believe this?” If 2/3rds say “no”, it’s not allowed.

 

[Adamska]

Nahh, the best solution is to build your own god and scream in horror/ecstasy as it kills you.

HAIL ZISTOR

 

[Crybaby Xianghua]

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Inshallah....

This is the type of person, who would show pornographic cartoon "pariodies" of children's media to children, and claim it is all about "proper sexual education", and "alternate lifestyle education". Those type of freaks also have no qualms about doing that vile shit, just to turn kids against their parents, whether their parents are religious or not.

No, no... aiming porn at children, and trolling religious people with porn, is not going to make them more tolerant of sexuality. It just makes people (especially the religious type), turn against sexuality, if anything.

 

[AnOminous]

No, no... aiming porn at children, and trolling religious people with porn, is not going to make them more tolerant of sexuality. It just makes people (especially the religious type), turn against sexuality, if anything.

Maybe not against sexuality, but against depraved perverts and predators. It makes them much less open to arguments that people like, say, troons, aren't obligate pedophiles.

 

[Crybaby Xianghua]

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Looks like he isn't getting much love for that take. Still more than he should be.

I never understood why people want to show compassion and empathy, for horrible human beings to begin with. They are not going to change. They are not ever to go redeem themselves. In fact, the only joy and happiness they experience, is, making other go through pain and suffering.

Life is not a children's cartoon. There are no happily ever afters, nor does everyone become a good person with the power of love and friendship.

Just to let you know, I am a neutral central spiritualist, not a conservative fundie, nor a liberal neo-hippy, but, how would someone like it if they lost a loved one to murder, rape, genocide, or torture? Would they shower that horrible human being with love and friendship, hoping they will change for the better? Or would they want that horrible human being either dead, or suffer a fate far worse than death?

I know I am coming of MATI, but I just never understood hardcore pacifists and how much of an extreme hypocritical doormat that bunch is.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

I never understood why people want to show compassion and empathy, for horrible human beings to begin with. They are not going to change. They are not ever to go redeem themselves. In fact, the only joy and happiness they experience, is, making other go through pain and suffering.

Life is not a children's cartoon. There are no happily ever afters, nor does everyone become a good person with the power of love and friendship.

Just to let you know, I am a neutral central spiritualist, not a conservative fundie, nor a liberal neo-hippy, but, how would someone like it if they lost a loved one to murder, rape, genocide, or torture? Would they shower that horrible human being with love and friendship, hoping they will change for the better? Or would they want that horrible human being either dead, or suffer a fate far worse than death?

I know I am coming of MATI, but I just never understood hardcore pacifists and how much of an extreme hypocritical doormat that bunch is.

Now, I do think denying a death row inmate access to their spiritual leader is a bit scummy, and that even the worst people should be permitted to try to repent and receive last rites, but the painful reality is that a lot of times these requests for priestly comfort at execution are used as a stalling tactic and tugging at heartstrings, hoping that they can get their sentence commuted by asserting that they have repented and hope to at least be spared execution for their crimes. Unfortunately, these folks are not having full-scale Road to Damascus moments, and at best probably still do need to understand that repentance and spiritual forgiveness do not mean that earthly justice must be withheld.

 

[Crybaby Xianghua]

Now, I do think denying a death row inmate access to their spiritual leader is a bit scummy, and that even the worst people should be permitted to try to repent and receive last rites, but the painful reality is that a lot of times these requests for priestly comfort at execution are used as a stalling tactic and tugging at heartstrings, hoping that they can get their sentence commuted by asserting that they have repented and hope to at least be spared execution for their crimes. Unfortunately, these folks are not having full-scale Road to Damascus moments, and at best probably still do need to understand that repentance and spiritual forgiveness do not mean that earthly justice must be withheld.

That is a good point. But to me, I think redemption and forgiveness needs to be earned.

Either way, I have yet to see a complete monster psychopath or sociopath who have done super violent crimes, redeem themselves though, and not be violent or rapey anymore. If that were ever happen, then, that would be a true miracle indeed.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

That is a good point. But to me, I think redemption and forgiveness needs to be earned.

Either way, I have yet to see a complete monster psychopath or sociopath who have done super violent crimes, redeem themselves though, and not be violent or rapey anymore. If that were ever happen, then, that would be a true miracle indeed.

I'm not going to disagree with you on that, as I feel that submitting oneself to earthly justice is big part of penitence and absolution. Saying you're sorry is easy, accepting the consequences of your sins shows you truly seek penitence.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Just go for the mid ground and tax the churches heavily.

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[Solid Snek]

Inshallah....

He's perfectly happy to harass a preacher and tear up a Bible, but I wonder how he reacts to people using accurate pronouns around him and his friends...?

I was going to see if there were any examples of him getting self-righteous when people do things he finds offensive, or if he is a good, honest, "live by the sword, die by the sword" edgelord (god I miss them). But I can't find the account; did this poor fellow delete his Twitter?