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Sonichu is being marketed in Weeaboo stores now.

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$25? And people say Chris' shit is overpriced
 
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asperhes said:
"What are you talking about? Crystal is an entirely different person, not me at all. Are you retarded? There are even panels when Chris and Crystal are standing next to each other." Chris's autism would make it impossible for him to comprehend the question. He's incapable of even understanding the concept of a Mary Sue. It would be a replay of "Rosechu and Amy Rose are totes different!"
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He might latch on to the idea of him being Crystal. He likes to say that he was a woman all along, and he just didn't realize it.

It seems like a lot more depth than he is usually capable of in his comics. On the other hand, he could always draw something along the lines of comic Chris and comic Crystal crashing into each other at high speeds and merging into one. Something completely hamfisted that gets across that idea.

On that note though, I find it somewhat interesting that he went with Christine and not Crystal as his new feminine name. Crystal is his future daughter's name, but that doesn't stop it from being his name too. Or maybe it does given his obsessions with the importance of names.

On an even more far out note, I wonder if there is some more fundamental connection between his longing for a daughter and his gender transition. One of his main goals in life was to create someone who was basically a female version of himself. Maybe that desire became so ingrained that he ended up "becoming a woman" in a subconscious effort to fulfill that dream as best as possible. Either that or his obsession with a daughter was an early manifestation of some gender issues that later manifested themselves in his more obvious gender issues.

I'll stop now.
 
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timtommy said:
On that note though, I find it somewhat interesting that he went with Christine and not Crystal as his new feminine name. Crystal is his future daughter's name, but that doesn't stop it from being his name too. Or maybe it does given his obsessions with the importance of names.
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This is proof that he wouldn't see the connection between himself and his twin sister. How can he and his twin merge together when they have different names? He would argue that lots of people have twins but they're obviously not the same person. Plus he's already said that Crystal still exists in Cwcville and she's the same as ever.

timtommy said:
On an even more far out note, I wonder if there is some more fundamental connection between his longing for a daughter and his gender transition. One of his main goals in life was to create someone who was basically a female version of himself. Maybe that desire became so ingrained that he ended up "becoming a woman" in a subconscious effort to fulfill that dream as best as possible. Either that or his obsession with a daughter was an early manifestation of some gender issues that later manifested themselves in his more obvious gender issues.
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It goes even deeper than this. The biggest constant in Chris's life is loneliness. Chris has never had any friends. In his teens he wanted Cole to be a bigger presence in his life so that he would have a constant companion. Cole's absence forced Chris to invent Bionic the Hedgehog (Sonic's long-lost brother) as a stand-in. Bionic literally transports in from another dimension. Of course, Chris never gave up on imaginary friends, but he soon latched onto the idea of giving birth to a child, literally creating a playmate. This has always been the main reason why Chris wants children, because he's lonely. At first this was a son, because it would allow him to create a brother from the ground-up. He depicted his son as dressed exactly like him, just as Crystal would later be depicted as dressed exactly like him.

In his early twenties he has a sexual awakening and things obviously get confusing. All we know is that Chris was now desperately trying to assuage his loneliness by finding a female companion, be it a daughter, a sister, or a sweetheart. Since he's autistic he's incapable of empathy, so he imagines all three people as essentially clones of himself. With his latest story of Chris-Chan Sonichu, we have a fantasy of literal parthenogenesis. He is increasingly referring to his comic characters as his "family." The only real friend Chris could have would be a literal brainchild, like Athena springing from the forehead of Zeus.

So your idea isn't "far out" at all. Immediately upon the discovery that Chris was a tomgirl, people joked that since Chris had been unable to acquire a boyfriend-free girl, he had become one. Chris's autism rules everything. He doesn't understand other people and he doesn't understand gender. You will never, ever be able to convince him that his transgenderism is rooted in loneliness or autism.
 
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asperhes said:
It goes even deeper than this. The biggest constant in Chris's life is loneliness. Chris has never had any friends. In his teens he wanted Cole to be a bigger presence in his life so that he would have a constant companion. Cole's absence forced Chris to invent Bionic the Hedgehog (Sonic's long-lost brother) as a stand-in. Bionic literally transports in from another dimension. Of course, Chris never gave up on imaginary friends, but he soon latched onto the idea of giving birth to a child, literally creating a playmate. This has always been the main reason why Chris wants children, because he's lonely. At first this was a son, because it would allow him to create a brother from the ground-up. He depicted his son as dressed exactly like him, just as Crystal would later be depicted as dressed exactly like him.

In his early twenties he has a sexual awakening and things obviously get confusing. All we know is that Chris was now desperately trying to assuage his loneliness by finding a female companion, be it a daughter, a sister, or a sweetheart. Since he's autistic he's incapable of empathy, so he imagines all three people as essentially clones of himself. With his latest story of Chris-Chan Sonichu, we have a fantasy of literal parthenogenesis. He is increasingly referring to his comic characters as his "family." The only real friend Chris could have would be a literal brainchild, like Athena springing from the forehead of Zeus.

So your idea isn't "far out" at all. Immediately upon the discovery that Chris was a tomgirl, people joked that since Chris had been unable to acquire a boyfriend-free girl, he had become one. Chris's autism rules everything. He doesn't understand other people and he doesn't understand gender. You will never, ever be able to convince him that his transgenderism is rooted in loneliness or autism.
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Interesting observations. I've had a similar theory brewing in my head ever since Chris "came out." Many other lolcows in addition to CWC are transgender. To name just a few: Rika, Ahuviya, Jennifer Diane Reitz - hell, even Nick Bate claimed to be a transwoman more than once. All of these people are mtf, for the most part demonstrably lust-driven, and all have a whole heap of mental issues and disorders on top of their trannyism. They also all have difficulty interacting with "normal" people. It's my theory that, after these social misfits struggle and fail to get the female companionship they desire, they concede that they will never truly be able to relate to a woman and become autogynephiles. As I see it, the lonely, desperate, and mentally disturbed eventually become so desperate that they mistake their love of and attraction toward women for a love of femininity in itself, in what could be called a textbook case of autism. As you put it, they become the girls they failed to acquire.

Does this describe every case perfectly? No, but it's a pretty good fit for Chris.

That being said, I always thought Chris's desire for a sister and daughteru were less than HONEST and TRUE. What many pages on the CWCki attribute to Chris's "gender identity issues" could just as soon be attributed to his desperation and lust for a girl - although in this case, he's the "girl" in question.
 
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acrylicpaint said:
Interesting observations. I've had a similar theory brewing in my head ever since Chris "came out." Many other lolcows in addition to CWC are transgender. To name just a few: Rika, Ahuviya, Jennifer Diane Reitz - hell, even Nick Bate claimed to be a transwoman more than once. All of these people are mtf, for the most part demonstrably lust-driven, and all have a whole heap of mental issues and disorders on top of their trannyism. They also all have difficulty interacting with "normal" people. It's my theory that, after these social misfits struggle and fail to get the female companionship they desire, they concede that they will never truly be able to relate to a woman and become autogynephiles. As I see it, the lonely, desperate, and mentally disturbed eventually become so desperate that they mistake their love of and attraction toward women for a love of femininity in itself, in what could be called a textbook case of autism. As you put it, they become the girls they failed to acquire.

Does this describe every case perfectly? No, but it's a pretty good fit for Chris.

That being said, I always thought Chris's desire for a sister and daughteru were less than HONEST and TRUE. What many pages on the CWCki attribute to Chris's "gender identity issues" could just as soon be attributed to his desperation and lust for a girl - although in this case, he's the "girl" in question.
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Take a guy who exaggerates his "sensitive side" in order to impress/relate to women he is interested in. Mix in a poor grasp on reality and a complete lack of a theory of mind and you could get some serious gender issues.

I am not sure that is all of Chris' story, but it could well be part of it.
 
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Chris was featured in a ridiculous video about Steven Universe.

(no shit is too minor?)

 
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What does Chris think of children? He seems to imply a sense of wanting to entertain them as Sonichu was (supposedly) written for them and he even censored it with them in mind. Being a father was also a big aim for classic Chris. But whenever he interacted with children he treated them no differently than anybody else. So, does he see them as angelic innocents or miniature adults? Did his refusal to grow up warp his ideas on how certain age groups act? Or is he too stupid to have a consistent opinion on the meaning of childhood?

*Edit: a minor typo.
 
We have a Solid Chris, a Liquid Chris and a Solidus Chris, right? So who're Naked Chris and Venom Chris?
 
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What does Chris think of children? He seems to imply a sense of wanting to entertain them as Sonichu was (supposedly) written for them and he even censored it with them in mind. Being a father was also a big aim for classic Chris. But whenever he interacted with children he treated them no differently than anybody else. So, does he see them as angelic innocents or miniature adults? Did his refusal to grow up warp his ideas on how certain age groups act? Or is he too stupid to have a consistent opinion on the meaning of childhood?
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I would go with the last one more than anything. Although the way I would phrase it is that "He hasn't really thought about the meaning of childhood enough to have a consistent opinion."

His desire to be a father seems to stem mostly out of a trophy gathering mindset. Having a child, specifically a daughter, is just something he wants to accomplish. Not out of any desire to nurture, but just to check it off the list. Also just to have someone else around.
 
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What does Chris think of children? He seems to imply a sense of wanting to entertain them as Sonichu was (supposedly) written for them and he even censored it with them in mind. Being a father was also a big aim for classic Chris. But whenever he interacted with children he treated them no differently than anybody else. So, does he see them as angelic innocents or miniature adults? Did his refusal to grow up warp his ideas on how certain age groups act? Or is he too stupid to have a consistent opinion on the meaning of childhood?
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Well, in terms of Sonichu, I don't think he really intended the comics to be for anyone but him. I think he just said they were for children because he was emulating Pokeymans and Sonic, which are aimed at kids. And maybe, just possibly, he realised that his electric hedgehog fantasies (which would be a great name for a concept album) were kind of kiddie and he wanted an excuse for them.

As for being a father, I think that was a spin-off from his general loneliness and insecurity. Plus it was a sign of growing up, like finding a sweetheart and losing his virginity.

In reality, he has no more idea about how to deal with kids than he does with anyone else. He can't even empathise with people his own age. Can you imagine Chris trying to deal with, say, a baby that won't stop crying, or a pair of misbehaving kids at the mall?
 
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cosmos1092 said:
Thinking back to the WTJU radio interview. I think the interview might have be done as part of a fluff piece on the lengths men will go to get women. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.
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It's not impossible, but that would rely on the interviewer 1) knowing about Chris' Love Quest and soliciting on Facebook and 2) deciding that his motivation for the Tomgirl thing was indeed seduction. Chris in general is a pretty interesting subject, hence the fact that we're all here, so I think it's something more obvious. He's a mini-celebrity, he's autistic, he's a strange-looking transvestite, he's an outsider artist, he's been cyber-stalked - there are lots of reasons why you might want to interview him. They've probably just got him saved up for a slow news day.
 
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