Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

Lucas, stop trying to make the Panther thing happen... it isn’t going to (You might say that it isn’t in the cards).

I think he’s fucked up on something (either drunk or stoned) and it’s only 10AM his time. I predict this goes over well at the sober living house he’s in.
Looks like he's drunk again.

Drinking before 10am is a maladaptive strategy for dealing with the bleakness of the 21st century. Drinking around the clock is where alcoholics make the transition from "I have a problem" to "I have a lifestyle."

Substance abuse is not a big part of Lucas's story. I wonder if that's changing? Does delirium tremens await the fat faggot? Sad.
 
Looks like he's drunk again.

Drinking before 10am is a maladaptive strategy for dealing with the bleakness of the 21st century. Drinking around the clock is where alcoholics make the transition from "I have a problem" to "I have a lifestyle."

Substance abuse is not a big part of Lucas's story. I wonder if that's changing? Does delirium tremens await the fat faggot? Sad.
How are you guys so sure about the drinking? I really do want to understand this.

I must be missing some context clues, seriously, because he does sound drowsy and depressed, but the one time when he was outside drinking all those tiny bottles of fruity alcohol, they were basically fortified wine if I remember correctly, he didn't sound like this at all.

Maybe he was going through a manic Jag at the time, but he fluctuated wildly between over-the-top bravado and confidence, and crushing voices-on-the-wind depression and tears. And so I came to the conclusion that drunk Lucas just accelerated his rapid-cycling bipolar.
 
Looks like he's drunk again.

Drinking before 10am is a maladaptive strategy for dealing with the bleakness of the 21st century. Drinking around the clock is where alcoholics make the transition from "I have a problem" to "I have a lifestyle."

Substance abuse is not a big part of Lucas's story. I wonder if that's changing? Does delirium tremens await the fat faggot? Sad.
With his retard bux being sucked up by the nursing home, how much money would he have to get drunk? He definitely can't afford the finest martinis in town at Bistango. Probably not even a 40 of Bud Ice.
 
With his retard bux being sucked up by the nursing home, how much money would he have to get drunk? He definitely can't afford the finest martinis in town at Bistango. Probably not even a 40 of Bud Ice.
There's a few permanent street people in my area, and the local stores won't sell them alcohol. Was in my local Rite-Aid, and one of the guys was at the register trying to buy beer, and the clerk refused to sell it to him, and had to call the police to get him to leave.
I talked to the cashier for a few minutes afterward, and she showed me some of the pictures they keep as who not to sell alcohol to.
I wonder if there's something similar for Lucas?
 
How are you guys so sure about the drinking? I really do want to understand this.

I must be missing some context clues, seriously, because he does sound drowsy and depressed, but the one time when he was outside drinking all those tiny bottles of fruity alcohol, they were basically fortified wine if I remember correctly, he didn't sound like this at all.

Maybe he was going through a manic Jag at the time, but he fluctuated wildly between over-the-top bravado and confidence, and crushing voices-on-the-wind depression and tears. And so I came to the conclusion that drunk Lucas just accelerated his rapid-cycling bipolar.
With his retard bux being sucked up by the nursing home, how much money would he have to get drunk? He definitely can't afford the finest martinis in town at Bistango. Probably not even a 40 of Bud Ice.
I'm not sure, and I'm not going to try to convince anyone that Lucas Colby Werner is drunk. He may've smoked a joint after an all night crying jag. He may be totally sober. I doubt that, though.

Where I'm coming from, since you asked: I have spent a tremendous amount of time around drunks, in various stages of drunkenness from detoxing to blacked out. The ability to evaluate someone's sobriety (in-person of course) was once something like a survival skill for me. I claim a grave authority on the subject. Familiarity, though, may make me inclined the think everyone is drunk all the time when there are better explanations. Something like hypervigilance.

In the Covidding it Up Out There video, Lucas speaks slowly, with a slight slur. He trails off at the ends of sentences, repeats himself. When he gets to
"And you want to tell me there's a god? I want to see the proof. 'Cause this is a dystopian wasteland..."
...there is no anger in his voice. He is disconnected from it, but still holding on to it. That, in my experience, is a dude girded with the numbness of liquor. The combination of speech patterns, and emotional tenor. Ultimately, it doesn't matter.

I would note that alcohol isn't exactly expensive, or hard to come by, even for someone with empty pockets (I have reason to believe that Lucas's pockets aren't totally empty yet, anyway). Liquor is always accessible in the homeless community because it is shoplifted. To be drunk merely requires the will to drink.
 
In the Covidding it Up Out There video, Lucas speaks slowly, with a slight slur. He trails off at the ends of sentences, repeats himself. When he gets to

...there is no anger in his voice. He is disconnected from it, but still holding on to it. That, in my experience, is a dude girded with the numbness of liquor. The combination of speech patterns, and emotional tenor. Ultimately, it doesn't matter.

I would note that alcohol isn't exactly expensive, or hard to come by, even for someone with empty pockets (I have reason to believe that Lucas's pockets aren't totally empty yet, anyway). Liquor is always accessible in the homeless community because it is shoplifted. To be drunk merely requires the will to drink.
@WonderWino brought up that he sounded drugged. He's getting agitated/crying the med-tech gives him something to calm him down and also causes the slurred speech. Could be a possibility too.
 
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@WonderWino brought up that he sounded drugged. He's getting agitated/crying the med-tech gives him something to calm him down and also causes the slurred speech. Could be a possibility too.
This is a good thought. I could totally see that happening, because don't they hand out his medication as well, I mean for everybody in the facility? As in, the medication that he was put back on, whether it's metformin for his diabetes, or depakote for his bipolar, that's supply medication wouldn't be in his hands. I would imagine they give it to everybody in those little tiny wax paper cups. Or maybe I just watched One flew over the cuckoo's nest too many times. 🙂
 
This is a good thought. I could totally see that happening, because don't they hand out his medication as well, I mean for everybody in the facility? As in, the medication that he was put back on, whether it's metformin for his diabetes, or depakote for his bipolar, that's supply medication wouldn't be in his hands. I would imagine they give it to everybody in those little tiny wax paper cups. Or maybe I just watched One flew over the cuckoo's nest too many times. 🙂

My mom works in a group home, and they hand out medication every morning and make sure they take them.
 
This is a good thought. I could totally see that happening, because don't they hand out his medication as well, I mean for everybody in the facility? As in, the medication that he was put back on, whether it's metformin for his diabetes, or depakote for his bipolar, that's supply medication wouldn't be in his hands. I would imagine they give it to everybody in those little tiny wax paper cups. Or maybe I just watched One flew over the cuckoo's nest too many times. 🙂

This will depend on the facility and the resident. I have no clue what Mallon Place does but given the fact they seem to house elderly and developmentally disabled folks as well as mentally ill folks, I assume the default is handing meds out in little paper cups.

Residents who take their own meds also may not be permitted to keep their medications. They may have to go to the med cart during med time with all the other residents, where they will then prepare their medication under the supervision of a staff member, who may ask the residents questions about the medication (what is the name of that medication, what is the dosage, why do you take it, etc)

Residents who are very independent and trustworthy (so probably not Lucas) may be permitted to keep their own medications and take them without being observed by staff. Even then, staff will probably ask these folks if they took their meds just so they can chart something like, "Resident reports she/he took nighttime medications as prescribed"
 
@WonderWino brought up that he sounded drugged. He's getting agitated/crying the med-tech gives him something to calm him down and also causes the slurred speech. Could be a possibility too.
Speaking of which, knowing how adverse lucas is to taking his meds and how obsessed with food he is, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out they slip him such meds to calm him down the same way they do to dementia patients that refuse meds - crush the pills, mix them with a shot glass full of pudding and feed him the pudding. After all, lucas himself has pointed out that all his mother had to do to break his concentration, make him forget what he is doing and get him focused on her was start offering him food

I can totally see some med tech spoon feeding lucas pudding meds like that and lucas being too stupid to realize what is going on and being eager for it because of his food obsession
 
Speaking of which, knowing how adverse lucas is to taking his meds and how obsessed with food he is, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out they slip him such meds to calm him down the same way they do to dementia patients that refuse meds - crush the pills, mix them with a shot glass full of pudding and feed him the pudding.
I'm pretty sure they're not allowed to administer medication against his will in a group home, which is what this would be. More's the pity.
 
He bitched once already. He complained Mallon Place doesn't allow him guests.
Lucas has no friends and his family doesn't come see him so why does this matter? Also, I'm fairly confident that every female on the planet finds him disgusting and repulsive so it's not like he'd be bringing a date back to his room. It's hilarious that he still thinks this is a possibility. It's even funnier that he thinks he can get a perfect and attractive young woman when an old and ugly 400+ lb woman who is missing half of her teeth would still reject him.
 
I'm pretty sure they're not allowed to administer medication against his will in a group home, which is what this would be. More's the pity.
They absolutely can administer many drugs against the will of residents in those places. They function the same way that nursing homes do in that regard - that is, they have a mandate to protect the residents and to ensure they are protected from themselves. Every one of those places requires residents to agree to being medicated in such situations. Its all in the paperwork that gets signed when you enter such a facility

The fact is, those kinds of places couldn't function if they didn't have the right to sedate people as needed. Otherwise, considering the kinds of people that are in lucas's place, they'd end up with uncontrollable spends going at each other before too long
 
Lucas might be averse to taking his own pills, because he sees it as a sign of mental defect. But I wonder if he’d take someone else’s to get high. I’m sure there’s plenty of Xanax and Valium and who knows what else floating around in there.
 
How are you guys so sure about the drinking? I really do want to understand this.

I must be missing some context clues, seriously, because he does sound drowsy and depressed, but the one time when he was outside drinking all those tiny bottles of fruity alcohol, they were basically fortified wine if I remember correctly, he didn't sound like this at all.

Maybe he was going through a manic Jag at the time, but he fluctuated wildly between over-the-top bravado and confidence, and crushing voices-on-the-wind depression and tears. And so I came to the conclusion that drunk Lucas just accelerated his rapid-cycling bipolar.

He’s slurring at the beginning, his eyes are barely open and he starts trailing off. As someone who has spent a fair amount of time in bars, he sure seems like he was under the influence of something. Could that be meds or a joint? Maybe, but he certainly sounded like he was under the influence of something.

Couple that with the fact that you haven’t heard anything out of him for the rest of the day and you start to wonder whether or not he’s sleeping one off.
 
They absolutely can administer many drugs against the will of residents in those places. They function the same way that nursing homes do in that regard - that is, they have a mandate to protect the residents and to ensure they are protected from themselves. Every one of those places requires residents to agree to being medicated in such situations. Its all in the paperwork that gets signed when you enter such a facility

The fact is, those kinds of places couldn't function if they didn't have the right to sedate people as needed. Otherwise, considering the kinds of people that are in lucas's place, they'd end up with uncontrollable spends going at each other before too long
I'd say with an agreement like that it wouldn't be necessary to slip him a med without him knowing. If he's gets agitated they would just tell him he needs to take the med and I think Lucas would take it.
 
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I really think it's just his meds. He seems a lot slower since he's come in, and I think the slowness usually is more pronounced in the morning. When he sleeps rough he can get worked up again, usually 3am. It would make sense the meds hit hardest right after he takes them and then the effects taper off. He was just posting weird shit again at ungodly hours, so I figure they made sure he took his meds.
 
I really think it's just his meds. He seems a lot slower since he's come in, and I think the slowness usually is more pronounced in the morning. When he sleeps rough he can get worked up again, usually 3am. It would make sense the meds hit hardest right after he takes them and then the effects taper off. He was just posting weird shit again at ungodly hours, so I figure they made sure he took his meds.
I don't think the slowness/slurring of speech shows up in all the videos he's done in the mornings.
 
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