Pedophilia in the gay community - oh no, homophobia

I am a gay man, and I have to admit that chickenhawks are a large problem in the gay community. The adults at the gay youth group I used to attend when I was a youth myself tended to give these chickenhawks the respect they deserved (which is, none at all other than to call the cops on them and to tell them to fuck off), but it happened often enough that it made me realize that there was a real problem that many people in the gay community wanted to turn a blind eye to. Frankly, I don't want any association with chickenhawks.
 
I am a gay man, and I have to admit that chickenhawks are a large problem in the gay community. The adults at the gay youth group I used to attend when I was a youth myself tended to give these chickenhawks the respect they deserved (which is, none at all other than to call the cops on them and to tell them to fuck off), but it happened often enough that it made me realize that there was a real problem that many people in the gay community wanted to turn a blind eye to. Frankly, I don't want any association with chickenhawks.
Just calling them chickenhawks reminded me of that nambla documentary from the 90s with that creepy fuck in the sweater. Show people that doc and if they don't have a visceral negative reaction to that guy, they're beyond saving
 
Pedophilia in the Christian community. Notice how many are anti-gay.
There's also the theory that gay kids are often weaker and more effeminate which makes them bigger targets for predators than straight kids.
Not that they are weaker, but seen as such.
1. Queer minors are often much more vulnerable than their straight peers, especially emotionally, which makes them easier targets for sexual predators. A queer teenage boy who has been made emotionally vulnerable by peer ostracization or parental abuse makes an easier target for a groomer than a straight teenage boy who has a support group and loving family to turn to in hard times.
Yes.
2. Communities that accept sexual minorities are more prone to infiltration by sexual deviants.
Explain the Catholic Church then. Or any religious community for that matter.
The problem is the very idea of "the gay community". It's a protective group that formed when begin gay risked imprisonment, beatings and a whole bunch of other shit, so there was a tendency to overlook the odd paedo because he was one of us, and solidarity meant survival. And dick. The need for the group protection is gone, but it sticks around from inertia and continues to protect its members when they're revealed to be abusive cocksuckers (instead of, y'know, regular cocksuckers).
For one thing gays are still discriminated against and being beaten up in the country, especially the young, so getting rid of it is a bad idea. Especially since they often have nowhere to turn to.

And off course part of this is the false assumption that homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles.

If for example 50% of pedophilia cases were homosexual, when about 1-2% of people are homosexual, then that becomes a necessary stat to talk about.

Oh wait that's actually accurate stats.
Investigate for yourself their accuracy, I've not vetted these stats, but they seem somewhat compatible with the other research I've done.

Yeah that article is BS.
1. Lots of people get bullied in school, most of them don't go on to suck cock just to spite their bullies
The problem is that gay youth are disproportionally bullied compared to heterosexuals.
The problem is not that glue eaters are reeeeetards, but that there is disordered attachment to performing acts contrary to nature.
Then how come it is relatively common in nature? Besides sexual attraction is not the same as sexual behavior, so your point has even less validity.
Most of them take their lead from Herbert Marcuse, who promoted perversion (including child sexuality/sexualization of children) as a tool to break down capitalist 'sexual repression' in favor of 'polymorphous sexuality' (Eros and Civilization), and (((Wilhelm Reich))) (disciple of Freud, Marxist, sexual deviant par excellence who lusted after his own mother) who argued that children were already 'sexual' and that their sexuality was repressed by society for the purpose of 'economic enslavement.'
Citation needed.
Also most of the gay community went out of it's way to distance themselves from NAMBLA since the 90s.
Harvey Milk was fucking a 16 year old, and he’s considered to be laudable.
So was Elvis, and his girl 14 years old and they got married. Lots of Christian communities still do this.
On an (as far as I know) unrelated note, Harvey Milk was also friends with Jim Jones. Yes, that Jim Jones
Most of San Francisco's politicians at the time were, including Ronald Reagan. People forget this, but Jim Jones did alot of charity work for the city and gained plenty of influence as a result. Nobody really knew how crazy he really was for a while.
Its common for pedophiles to gravitate towards any position of authority in general that will give them access to kids or make them less accountable for their actions. We unfortunately live in a society where a declared sexual orientation can grant a person a lot of authority and make them virtually immune to crticism. What we're seeing here could be pedos using homosexuality as a shield or a means of camouflaging themselves instead of there being some kind of innate connection.
Usually that "declared sexual orientation" is "not gay". Yes child molesters do gravitate towards positions of authority, but it is that position that gives them a shield, not the sexual orientation. Many are still fired and abused over that.
 
@ryu289
Yeah that article is BS.
Lmao, your aticle relies purely on the self-reported interest of molesters of male children that say "hey, I have no interest in men". Ever watched dateline? Saw idiot pedophiles defend their positions in autistic online debates? Are they people that generally speak the truth, you think?

Even if you haven't, active pedophiles are not exactly known for their truthfulness.

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Pretty unsurprising that the other points made in this article uses research by the kinsey institute. Kinsey himself did research on how quickly infants and children could be brought to orgasm. Their responses were categorized from "writhing" "fighting" "crying" and a couple of others. The conclusion was that regardlesss of their response the children were said to have gained from the experience because they were brought to orgasm. We're talking leagues ahead of anything what modern pariah's like harvey weinstein have done.

The only saving grace is that the n was lower than a 100, so at least it wasn't a comprehensive study of molesting children.

So yeah, keep defending pedophilia and pedophile research.
 
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The problem is the very idea of "the gay community". It's a protective group that formed when begin gay risked imprisonment, beatings and a whole bunch of other shit, so there was a tendency to overlook the odd paedo because he was one of us, and solidarity meant survival. And dick. The need for the group protection is gone, but it sticks around from inertia and continues to protect its members when they're revealed to be abusive cocksuckers (instead of, y'know, regular cocksuckers).

The Gay Community needs to end so the nonces can be dealt with properly. We can get rid of umbrella organisations like the LGBT alliance as well, while we're at it. They're all infested with troonery and paedophilia too.
That’s like every community though.
 
@ryu289
Citation needed.
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Or give me a valid address to send you an invoice by registered mail.
Also most of the gay community went out of it's way to distance themselves from NAMBLA since the 90s.
Sugar-coated headcanon.

The 'gay community' had no problem with pedophiles in their ranks up until that point (the ILGA included at least three such organizations). In 1993, the Lambda Report hit D.C. and the Senate threatened to turn off the money spigot unless Bill Clinton could certify that the U.S.' contribution to the U.N. wasn't going to organizations that endorsed or condoned pedophilia (the ILGA had just gotten consultative status). So, they had a choice: lose the UN status, or ditch the pedos. The ILGA chose the latter and voted out NAMBLA, VSG, and Project Truth/Free Will in June 1994.
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There actually was a study done back in 1992 that looked into the OPs question and what they found was that there an 11:1 ratio of homo/heterosexuals in CSA. They found significance to show that perpetrators were 11x more likely to be homsexual.
DOI: 10.1080/00926239208404356

The Mayo clinic did the largest study on this in 2007 and found that:
  • Reticism was highest in homosexual offenders who abused non-related children (up to 50%)
  • Homosexual and bisexual pedophiles have higher recidivism rates than heterosexual pedophiles.
  • Percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%)
  • Largest percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.
  • Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts.
  • Forensic studies found heterosexual pedophiles on average reported abusing 19.8 children and committing 23.2 acts,
    whereas homosexual pedophiles had abused 150.2 children and committed 281.7 acts
  • DOI: 10.4065/82.4.457

One problem that comes up studying this now is that we put LGBTQ as a protected population in research and they shove pedophilia into this protection. That's why you get the crazy people trying to state its a sexual orientation.

So yes research does seem to support a higher percent of perpretators are homosexual.

But a reminder in research we have a saying "Correlation does not equal Causation."
 
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nobody takes women violence seriously as they're capable of far less in this regard.
Women are humans and humans are tool users. There is no amount of violence that a man is capable of that a woman is not.

People don't take women violence as seriously when they cut off their partners dick in his sleep. Sounds pretty capable to me.
 
Sugar-coated
But you then point out that it was true. Also as for that video:
A full listen to the track (lyrics here) makes it clear to any reasonable listener that the choir is talking about winning hearts and minds by being funnier, more likable, and better dressed ("We'll convert your children.../We'll make them tolerant and fair", "We'll convert your children/Someone's gotta teach them not to hate" & “Your children will care about / Fairness and justice for others / Your children will work to convert / All their sisters and brothers”).

If anything Christians are the ones "converting" others.
Lmao, your aticle relies purely on the self-reported interest of molesters of male children that say "hey, I have no interest in men".
But those same studes were cited as evidence in your link as well. Which means your criticism applies to that as well.
Kinsey himself did research on how quickly infants and children could be brought to orgasm. Their responses were categorized from "writhing" "fighting" "crying" and a couple of others. The conclusion was that regardlesss of their response the children were said to have gained from the experience because they were brought to orgasm. We're talking leagues ahead of anything what modern pariah's like harvey weinstein have done.
Yeah no. The Kinsey Institute has never carried out sexual experiments on children, either during Alfred Kinsey's time as director or since. As stated clearly in the first Kinsey volume, [Sexual Behavior in the Human Male], published in 1948, the information about children's sexuality responses was obtained from older subjects recalling their own childhoods, parents observing their children, and a small number of adult men who had engaged in sexual contacts with children and who were interviewed by Dr. Kinsey and his staff. The Kinsey Institute did not employ or train these men, or pay them for this information. The large majority of such information, including all that was reported in Table 34, was gathered by one individual, between 1917 and 1948, and documented by him. He died before Kinsey. No knowledge of the identities of the children involved or their parents has ever been available to The Kinsey Institute
Does that mean you support it?
No. It also means you suck at entrapment.
There actually was a study done back in 1992 that looked into the OPs question and what they found was that there an 11:1 ratio of homo/heterosexuals in CSA. They found significance to show that perpetrators were 11x more likely to be homsexual.

The Mayo clinic did the largest study on this in 2007 and found that
Hold on, why do you refuse to give links @GenociderSyo ? Are you making it up?

Lets look at the first one:
Using ptiallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportiono of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approxiniately 11:1.
As for your second source, the article uses "heterosexual" to mean someone who abuses children of the opposite sex, "bisexual" to mean someone who abuses both male and female children, and "homosexual" to mean someone who abuses children of the same sex as themselves; not as a way of indicating their attraction to adults.

The sex of the victims of paedophilic molestation does not necessarily indicate whether the perpetrator possesses a heterosexual or a homosexual teleiophilic sexual orientation or even if they possess one at all. Attraction to a person is typically filtered through the requirement for physical attraction.
Children have a fundamentally different appearance from adults, particularly as secondary sex characteristics, which distinguish the two sexes, only develop post-pubescently. If this were not the case, we would not be able to distinguish between height and age.

As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: “The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however” (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, Understanding Child Abuse and Neglect).

But a reminder in research we have a saying "Correlation does not equal Causation."
Good job covering your ass there 🙄
 
But those same studes were cited as evidence in your link as well

Yeah, but it genuinely is different. When you can use for example catholic church sources to build a case against the catholic church, then it is much more convincing.

When you use kinsey stats, which are at the core of intellectual defense for everything homo and pedosexual (as well as a number of other things), and those stats then show a link between the two, that is very telling. If you agree with me that we should not use or trust kinsey research, then you remove about 80% of the foundation of lgbtq activist research.

For example, a year ago I wanted to see how accurate I could get to finding out what percentage of men is homosexual. And also what people's average expectation of that figure is (americans think there are more fags than practically any other country is one of the things I found).

I went to the library, I went to a local lgbtq bookstore and a number of other places. I searched google scholar, but also news articles. Polls. I wouldn't say it was a comprehensive research, just spent two days finding as much as I could.

Nearly every study, nearly every news article used a kinsey article to aupport their view of how prevalent homosexuality is.

When I excluded those, figures between 0.5% and 2% seemed most accurate with most robust underpinnings.

The Kinsey Institute did not employ or train these men, or pay them for this information.

Yes he did pay them. There have been victims who came forward about this who experienced this at the hand of their father or grandfather.
 
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