US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
Is there even a difference between the two? They're both a branch of Marxism.
Wrong. You could generally, sort of put them under the umbrella of socialism, but NatSoc and Marxist Communism are very distinct.

Soviet style and classic Marxist ideology is explicitly global and destructivist with regards to identity and borders. All workers, all the world, all must join together into a single hive mind mass - sacrifice yourself for your proletariat brother across the globe, comrade. National socialism, however, is limited to the national boundaries of geography and ethnicity for a particular country. The people, industries and government should all be united in policy, law, and culture to serve the nation and it's future. Globalism is explicitly rejected, with the productivity and resources of the nation directly inwards to its own people and development
A national socialist utopia would be every nation having its own unique character but sharing the mission to serve their own citizens first. A Soviet/Marxist ideal is all borders and identifiers subsumed completely into the class dialactic.

You can call NatSoc ideology limiting, but at least you're stuck in role/identity that has some resonance with your national character. Marxism is the 'gray goo' scenario, with everyone and everything ground to nothing.
 
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Bread is getting more expensive, and the Circuses have long since stopped entertaining the masses...
And of course the Wall Street casino that keeps on going higher and higher.

It depends on the military. Always does with despotic regimes. The moment the military is fed up or united under someone they're willing to go all the way with, it's over for the man or party in charge.
Yes, and never trust the police regardless. Nearly every regime shows that they're easier to buy out than the military, and their willingness to enforce the Coronvirus regime despite the ACAB rhetoric leveled against them in 2020 by even their own governments is proof enough of that.
 
Why? All the prancing generals and pregnant front line troops would be too distracting?
Because America is probably the most hostile place to invade, massively outguns China, vastly outranges it. Leaving aside a ground invasion of the U.S. would be horrifically hostile, we don't need good generals to simply sink every single one of their landing ships with a navy five times their size. It'd be suicide. But let's ignore that and compound it, China is entirely economically reliant on the U.S., its exports to us makeup 18% of its -entire economy-. Losing that would cripple it -overnight-. Mind, it'd fucking hurt us too, but in a war situation, we can take that hit for a longer time than they can, as in it would take us at least a couple of months to feel it bad enough to grind us to a halt.

But lets compound this more.

Declaring war on the U.S. and bringing to bare the sheer arms necessary to do so would leave China with fuck and all to defend itself. India and Russia both are hostile parties to China and China to them. Think they'll be nice and quiet?

Declaring war on the U.S. would destroy china in four separate ways. And only one is militarily by us.
 
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@Gehenna re. Your writeup of the factions.
What’s your read on the right’s ability to throw in with the conflict or benefit from it? Never interupt your enemy yada yada, but how are the RINOs reacting to all this, how do you feel their relationship with the rank and file compares to the Establishment faction and the progressives they use as fodder? My read is that the average voter is tired and frustrated to the point of breaking; that what they probably feared would start happening with the advent of the Tea Party is actually coming now.
 
@Gehenna re. Your writeup of the factions.
What’s your read on the right’s ability to throw in with the conflict or benefit from it? Never interupt your enemy yada yada, but how are the RINOs reacting to all this, how do you feel their relationship with the rank and file compares to the Establishment faction and the progressives they use as fodder? My read is that the average voter is tired and frustrated to the point of breaking; that what they probably feared would start happening with the advent of the Tea Party is actually coming now.
The RINOs will do what they have always done, be in it for themselves. They are interested solely in what benefits them and will only participate when it does so. Hence why the infrastructure bill has so many kickbacks to them, and hence why they all have been very silent on it when it began to fail. They are fair-weather friends to the core.
 
I have seen Twatterati haw-hawing at people for "doing their own research", and the usual bullshit about horse paste or pool cleaner.

All those years of proclaiming themselves to be "free-thinkers" and "skeptics" have been ditched, now that free thinking and skepticism are directed at themselves and their masters.

except the infuriating thing about them is they still somehow consider themselves skeptics and free thinkers and accuse people who question their beliefs of actually being fake-skeptics using it as an excuse to hide what the really believe. You're only a TRUE skeptic if you listen and believe
 
Because America is probably the most hostile place to invade, massively outguns China, vastly outranges it. Leaving aside a ground invasion of the U.S. would be horrifically hostile, we don't need good generals to simply sink every single one of their landing ships with a navy five times their size. It'd be suicide. But let's ignore that and compound it, China is entirely economically reliant on the U.S., its exports to us makeup 18% of its -entire economy-. Losing that would cripple it -overnight-. Mind, it'd fucking hurt us too, but in a war situation, we can take that hit for a longer time than they can, as in it would take us at least a couple of months to feel it bad enough to grind us to a halt.

But lets compound this more.

Declaring war on the U.S. and bringing to bare the sheer arms necessary to do so would leave China with fuck and all to defend itself. India and Russia both are hostile parties to China and China to them. Think they'll be nice and quiet?

Declaring war on the U.S. would destroy china in four separate ways. And only one is militarily by us.

Did you forget that our incompetent government just gave away 60-80 billion dollars worth of US Military equipment to the Taliban? Without that stuff, we’re screwed.
 
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Did you forget that our incompetent government just gave away 60-80 billion dollars worth of US Military equipment to the Taliban?
No, I have not. But we have -trillions- of dollars worth of military equipment. Our government and leadership is fucked... but so is China's! It'd be two retards with stars on their chest slap fighting, only one retard is twice the size of the other. It'd be hideously costly, utterly pointless, a massive waste of life, but China would just fucking die if it attacked us. Which is why they won't do it, it'd be stupid and suicidal. They'd be invading a location larger than they are, with a massive civilian armament count, and a military vastly oversized than they are, vastly better equipped, and when it comes to home defense expect a lot of people to quietly ignore the feds and listen to only state-level authority.
 
Because America is probably the most hostile place to invade, massively outguns China, vastly outranges it. Leaving aside a ground invasion of the U.S. would be horrifically hostile, we don't need good generals to simply sink every single one of their landing ships with a navy five times their size. It'd be suicide. But let's ignore that and compound it, China is entirely economically reliant on the U.S., its exports to us makeup 18% of its -entire economy-. Losing that would cripple it -overnight-. Mind, it'd fucking hurt us too, but in a war situation, we can take that hit for a longer time than they can, as in it would take us at least a couple of months to feel it bad enough to grind us to a halt.

But lets compound this more.

Declaring war on the U.S. and bringing to bare the sheer arms necessary to do so would leave China with fuck and all to defend itself. India and Russia both are hostile parties to China and China to them. Think they'll be nice and quiet?

Declaring war on the U.S. would destroy china in four separate ways. And only one is militarily by us.
This is pinwheel, but even if the US military was a giant clusterfuck, a bunch of Texas rednecks ain't let China go full Red Dawn on them.
 
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Because America is probably the most hostile place to invade, massively outguns China, vastly outranges it. Leaving aside a ground invasion of the U.S. would be horrifically hostile, we don't need good generals to simply sink every single one of their landing ships with a navy five times their size. It'd be suicide. But let's ignore that and compound it, China is entirely economically reliant on the U.S., its exports to us makeup 18% of its -entire economy-. Losing that would cripple it -overnight-. Mind, it'd fucking hurt us too, but in a war situation, we can take that hit for a longer time than they can, as in it would take us at least a couple of months to feel it bad enough to grind us to a halt.

But lets compound this more.

Declaring war on the U.S. and bringing to bare the sheer arms necessary to do so would leave China with fuck and all to defend itself. India and Russia both are hostile parties to China and China to them. Think they'll be nice and quiet?

Declaring war on the U.S. would destroy china in four separate ways. And only one is militarily by us.
China will probaly Nuke or another fun bio weapon *sigh* :punished:
 
China will probaly Nuke or another fun bio weapon *sigh* :punished:
No, because China isn't suicidal. Openly using a nuclear weapon or biological weapon would be an open invitation for anyone to do so on them. And uh... well, one of those hostile parties that might just want to get a good look to the rest of the world is Russia. Who has an impressive stockpile of nukes, has a distaste of China, knows China has ambitions against them, and is headed by a man who has actively preached the glories of preemptive strikes.

It's... not a guarantee that Russia would react by nuking them preemptively, but there is a lot of stuff to incentivize them to, and China knows it.


Now double that, India is a nuclear power too.



Yah, China is -not- willing to risk that.
 
I don't expect that China intends to attack the USA, so much as to keep us out of whatever they really intend to start an attack.
If they wanted to hurt Americans, all they have to do is stop selling to us and use their factory workers in the army instead.
Then say bye bye Taiwan.
 
On Big Tech. Put simply, power. The Democrats promised them the world, they bit hook line and sinker, and enough of their own employees are true believers that the non-believing CEOs decided to go the whole hog into it. This kicked off the 230 things, which they were promised would never occur, and this caused them to go all in. They doubled down again and again until they had no choice but to participate in the civil war.
I mean, I get that they want power, but you don't just go looking for power for nothing. You usually seek it to accomplish some end, or is this like in 1984 where ENGSOC wanted power purely for power's sake?

I guess what I'm asking is what they intend to do with that power once they have it?
 
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