Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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What are the odds of Greer getting his restraining order against Hardin (based entirely on lies)?

I know Hardin would challenge it and be successful, but what happens with this case in the interim?
 
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The "body positivity" video was "Yo Yovanna" for which he paid PR people to spam his self-written press release to over 200 news sites.
It's on his website, all dated 2020.
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He also paid a singer to sing it, musicians to play it, and a Russian girl to dance around Bulgaria for a music video on his YouTube:

The money spent in 2020 for a "male vocalist" was for his failed AGT audition, which he of course sued over.

He not only hired the vocalist, but also the drummer, and paid for the rental of the rehearsal space, and paid a random girl to dance around because she looked hot.

This can all be seen in this video that he himself has posted on his YouTube channel:
 
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Regarding the whole America's Got Talent audition. I assume that Russell wanted to hire a male vocalist to front his performance? The idea being it would showcase his songwriting abilities, rather than his ability as a performer?

If this is the case, it's hardly surprising that AGT wouldn't entertain him. Even if he were the most talented songwriter under the sun, the show is really focused on performance, not on songwriting. I suppose it's possible that if he were a part of a band and the band were outstanding performers, he could have got on that way, but applying as Russell Greer and then paying proxies to do the performance in his stead was never going to fly.

I suppose I need to dig up the material on his AGT lawsuit. I've never really paid much attention to that before. It never seemed of much interest. But Mr Hardin's latest filing has piqued my curiosity now.
 
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Jew-ish said:
What are the odds of Greer getting his restraining order against Hardin (based entirely on lies)?

I know Hardin would challenge it and be successful, but what happens with this case in the interim?
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I can't even imagine it gets to the state of needing to be challenged. "So, you're asking for an order against a lawyer whose client you sued and you say he's investigating you." "Yes" "You know you're retarded, right? Dismissed."
 
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Jew-ish said:
What are the odds of Greer getting his restraining order against Hardin (based entirely on lies)?

I know Hardin would challenge it and be successful, but what happens with this case in the interim?
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Zero. It's not like he went to the police and made some shit up like usual. This time he's asking for a restraining order from the Judge he's starting to piss off against defense counsel. All after a week of basically losing his mind in front of the court.
 
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DavidS877 said:
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$12,760 * 2 = $25,520
If he then made more than the $14/hr he makes now. Let's just use the $14 for 50 weeks a year at 40 hours a week.
$14 * 40 * 50 = $28,000
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don't forget, he said he made more in 2020 than now
a 35hr job for 48 weeks is 23500/y, so if he made just 10% more in 2020 he already would be over the 2x poverty guideline
 
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Swole McPole said:
Even if he were the most talented songwriter under the sun, the show is really focused on performance, not on songwriting.
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Right? Just because it has "Talent" in the name of the program, that doesn't mean they'll feature poets or graphic artists or philosophy majors. It's a TV show. You have to put on a show. "But I was onstage! I SUE CHOO NOW!"
 
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obsdj said:
Right? Just because it has "Talent" in the name of the program, that doesn't mean they'll feature poets or graphic artists or philosophy majors. It's a TV show. You have to put on a show. "But I was onstage! I SUE CHOO NOW!"
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The thing about the audition was that because of covid, it was an online video audition. He submitted it and was supposedly told "good job" or something to that effect by the show employee he emailed the video to.

He took that to mean he'd been accepted onto the show (to win the grand prize in the first round and go home with Heidi Klum of course) and decided to sue for discrimination when it turned out he didn't make the cut after all.

That entire saga is so bizarre it's worth looking into.
 
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Swole McPole said:
Regarding the whole America's Got Talent audition. I assume that Russell wanted to hire a male vocalist to front his performance? The idea being it would showcase his songwriting abilities, rather than his ability as a performer?

If this is the case, it's hardly surprising that AGT wouldn't entertain him. Even if he were the most talented songwriter under the sun, the show is really focused on performance, not on songwriting. I suppose it's possible that if he were a part of a band and the band were outstanding performers, he could have got on that way, but applying as Russell Greer and then paying proxies to do the performance in his stead was never going to fly.

I suppose I need to dig up the material on his AGT lawsuit. I've never really paid much attention to that before. It never seemed of much interest. But Mr Hardin's latest filing has piqued my curiosity now.
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He technically was part of the band who performed it. He bought himself a red keytar and a red sequined blazer to play in the band...where he basically just flopped his hand on the keys like he was slapping a dead fish onto a cutting board, and bounced up and down on the balls of his feet like a stimming retard. As with every asinine scheme Russhole attempts, the truth really is stranger than fiction.
 
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Swole McPole said:
Regarding the whole America's Got Talent audition. I assume that Russell wanted to hire a male vocalist to front his performance? The idea being it would showcase his songwriting abilities, rather than his ability as a performer?

If this is the case, it's hardly surprising that AGT wouldn't entertain him. Even if he were the most talented songwriter under the sun, the show is really focused on performance, not on songwriting. I suppose it's possible that if he were a part of a band and the band were outstanding performers, he could have got on that way, but applying as Russell Greer and then paying proxies to do the performance in his stead was never going to fly.

I suppose I need to dig up the material on his AGT lawsuit. I've never really paid much attention to that before. It never seemed of much interest. But Mr Hardin's latest filing has piqued my curiosity now.
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From: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60659250/greer-v-fremantle-productions/ [#55]
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So, despite being a pauper, Gimpface was able to produce "an original song about...Heidi Klum", move to Las Vegas and hire "professional musicians" in the form of a drummer, singer and backup dancer - and that specifically for the purpose of auditioning for America's Got Talent; no mention is made of what he did to sustain himself while he spent all the money necessary for professional musicians and other production costs, not to mention moving to Vegas.
 
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Uncle Buck said:
So, despite being a pauper, Gimpface was able to produce "an original song about...Heidi Klum", move to Las Vegas and hire "professional musicians" in the form of a drummer, singer and backup dancer.
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I'm so sure that "scouting for talent" was the reason he moved to Vegas and not the whole "hookers are legal in certain parts of Nevada" thing. But hey, he was making more money back then, after all.
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
Too late. @obsdj already explained it to me.
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It does, though, seem like a lawyerly thing to argue about despite the fact that the calendar most of us use has had 12 months since we'll before Julius Caesar switched Rome to the solar calendar. They would seem interchangeable to the more Latin challenged among us.
 
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