💬 Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

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I think I've reached peak-peak trans. It just isn't fun anymore. Fuck it. Let everyone get SRS if they want it. In fact, make it mandatory for anyone who identifies as trans. It doesn't matter. They can never change their sex and repeating that over and over is tiring. Let these people end their bloodlines and in a few generations, we hopefully won't have to worry about it anymore. I'm graypillied. Things won't get better but maybe there's some good in that. I'm just tired.
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Trannies fail a question meant for toddlers in this 1916 IQ test
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Hooray, I'm not retarded by 1916 standards. Is it meant to be that simple? I could have swore I've seen the Superior Adult question in a book of riddles meant for kids.
 
Slideshow Bill said:
I think I've reached peak-peak trans. It just isn't fun anymore. Fuck it. Let everyone get SRS if they want it. In fact, make it mandatory for anyone who identifies as trans. It doesn't matter. They can never change their sex and repeating that over and over is tiring. Let these people end their bloodlines and in a few generations, we hopefully won't have to worry about it anymore. I'm graypillied. Things won't get better but maybe there's some good in that. I'm just tired.

Hooray, I'm not retarded by 1916 standards. Is it meant to be that simple? I could have swore I've seen the Superior Adult question in a book of riddles meant for kids.
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Considering how much it shows up in families, this might be the way forward. Make it a requirement for those that identify as trans to get surgery and watch the identities and numbers go down repeatedly.
 
Slideshow Bill said:
I think I've reached peak-peak trans. It just isn't fun anymore. Fuck it. Let everyone get SRS if they want it. In fact, make it mandatory for anyone who identifies as trans. It doesn't matter. They can never change their sex and repeating that over and over is tiring. Let these people end their bloodlines and in a few generations, we hopefully won't have to worry about it anymore. I'm graypillied. Things won't get better but maybe there's some good in that. I'm just tired.

Hooray, I'm not retarded by 1916 standards. Is it meant to be that simple? I could have swore I've seen the Superior Adult question in a book of riddles meant for kids.
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The challenge comes mostly from having to solve it on the spot, not having seen the questions before (making it a test of fluid intelligence). These are only samples of the subtests on each level, there were more tasks, like this one:
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"Which of these two faces is the prettier?"
 
Izdaja Slika said:
I will never be convinced that the fascist language games played by trans ideologists are legitimate, because they defy logic.
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This is perhaps the singular most irksome aspect of the modern world; constant gay language games.

Language evolves, words slip in and out of common parlance, new words and phrases are formed, etc... I think we can all acknowledge these realities, but it's precisely the acknowledgment of these realities that troons and their intellectual forebearers abuse.

For all the screeching and controversy that troons and poons have generated they've failed to gain a meaningful foothold within culture. The concepts and ideas they promulgate are foreign to the average person; hell, even a word as foundational to their ideology as "cis" remains a mystery to those who don't actively engage with them.

If your intellectual movement fails to meaningfully alter the way people speak or convey ideas then it will remain a historical footnote at best. Look at figures such as Darwin, Marx, Neitzsche, Freud and Jung, these men have radically altered our culture and if you pay close attention you will see their ideas, and even their language, used regularly in day to day conversation.

Is this the case for tranny cope speak? I would say emphatically NO. I remain convinced if I stopped using the internet I wouldn't hear a peep about troons or poons aside from my boomer father rambling about them once every few months when fox news has a segment on about them.

The denizens of discord and reddit will fade from cultural memory long before they breath their last breath.
 
Paper Machete said:
This is patently false. You're either a woman purposefully lying to make women as a whole look better or a man who doesn't know what female goon material is like.
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First, let me say there are a sizable amount of brainrotted pooners (and I didn't try to argue there weren't), but simply add that with yaoi it isn't that simple as there are factors why a lot of women don't see alternatives that speak to them.

Maybe you misunderstood, but I was specifically referring to other anime (not written smut, I have a lot less experience with it) as romance alternatives to yaoi. And the majority of straight romance anime is aimed at weeaboo moids salivating over big titty lolis and cute demure waifu material. As a woman looking for appealing romance in the anime sector you simply don't have much options, so yaoi has become popular. From there the yaoi gooner pipeline is set up.
This doesn't make it right or better, but a reason as to why.
I'm not trying to argue about women's romance in general being less degenerated or whatever, but was specifically referring to what brings women to AAP.
If you're autistic about my phrasing about women and rape then I have news for you: enjoying a fictional story where you're ultimately in control or roleplay with a partner where you can say the safeword anytime is not rape. And my argument was being yaoi is the separator that makes it "safe" to enjoy for many.
The keyword is that women are still ultimately in control of the situation.
Historically it was shunned and unbecoming for women to show any kind of sexual desire or initiate anything, you'll be immediately labelled a whore. Women want to be desired and have an "excuse" to enjoy sex. A fantasy of this kind plays into those desires. @Lentil Soup mentioned great points.
 
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From the JKR thread. It got me thinking, what evidence would you need to see to change your views on trans people? For example, if brain scans showed trans identified people were more similar to the sex they wished to be, would it change your mind? In that example, it still doesn’t match material reality. I would need to see evidence that trans is real, I’ve yet to see a convincing argument for it, and have never seen a trans person with as much conviction as a schizophrenic person believing they’re actually Jesus.
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I already did change my mind. I used to believe that transitioning relieved dysphoria and enabled trans people to live as the person they felt they were. I no longer do.

What would make me change my mind back would be to see trans people who are demonstrably more functional post-transition. They don’t have to pass or look hot, they just have to have transitioned and be more successful in life. To function on the level of a normal human being in a way they could not before.

Additional factors:

1. No excuses. If they still aren’t functioning because “transphobia” or whatever, then nothing has been proven by their transition.

2. Subsequent personal or professional success must not be the result of their trans status. For example, Tony Reed classes himself as a successful journalist, but there is no evidence of any real talent outside of what’s necessary to engage a trans-sympathetic audience.

Lentil Soup said:
Different hypothetical I've personally wondered about:

If a pill was invented that completely got rid of gender dysphoria without any need to transition on any level, how do you think progressives would take it?

From observing debate in like the deaf community where some deaf people label treatment as cultural genocide I'm inclined to think a lot of trans people would react like that.
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I do not believe that the majority of trans people actually do have gender dysphoria, so the pill wouldn’t work except possibly in the case of people who transition due to sexual assault.

Would it be accepted? Probably not. Being trans is largely an excuse for failures in life and unexamined personal issues. “Good news! You no longer believe you’re a woman! Now you need to find some other reason why you can’t hold a job down or get a girlfriend.” No troon wants that.
 
Tragi-Chan said:
Being trans is largely an excuse for failures in life and unexamined personal issues.
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This. People think it's a coincidence that many trannies are fat, druggies, and/or unemployed. But it's really not. If you're prone to getting addicted to tranny porn, you're probably also prone to other terrible habits. But these people will just blame "transphobia"/"abusive family"/literally anything aside from themselves for their failures. And their idea of an "abusive family" is one that doesn't enable their delusions enough.
 
Sandshrew said:
People think it's a coincidence that many trannies are fat, druggies, and/or unemployed. But it's really not. If you're prone to getting addicted to tranny porn, you're probably also prone to other terrible habits. But these people will just blame "transphobia"/"abusive family"/literally anything aside from themselves for their failures. And their idea of an "abusive family" is one that doesn't enable their delusions enough.
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It's a spectrum for sure. I see a lot of this behavior in transitioned older adults, while people that transition younger tend to show more trauma driven motivation. I'd be very interested in seeing a study that looks at the prevalence of ACE (adverse childhood experience) scores in people that transition across different age brackets/demographics. In the small cohort of trans and detrans people I know ACE scores are far above the population mean - in the range of 4-9. One of my TIM friends was subjected to unimaginable brutality as a child.
 
Hatecraft said:
First, let me say there are a sizable amount of brainrotted pooners (and I didn't try to argue there weren't), but simply add that with yaoi it isn't that simple as there are factors why a lot of women don't see alternatives that speak to them.

Maybe you misunderstood, but I was specifically referring to other anime (not written smut, I have a lot less experience with it) as romance alternatives to yaoi. And the majority of straight romance anime is aimed at weeaboo moids salivating over big titty lolis and cute demure waifu material. As a woman looking for appealing romance in the anime sector you simply don't have much options, so yaoi has become popular. From there the yaoi gooner pipeline is set up.
This doesn't make it right or better, but a reason as to why.
I'm not trying to argue about women's romance in general being less degenerated or whatever, but was specifically referring to what brings women to AAP.
If you're autistic about my phrasing about women and rape then I have news for you: enjoying a fictional story where you're ultimately in control or roleplay with a partner where you can say the safeword anytime is not rape. And my argument was being yaoi is the separator that makes it "safe" to enjoy for many.
The keyword is that women are still ultimately in control of the situation.
Historically it was shunned and unbecoming for women to show any kind of sexual desire or initiate anything, you'll be immediately labelled a whore. Women want to be desired and have an "excuse" to enjoy sex. A fantasy of this kind plays into those desires. @Lentil Soup mentioned great points.
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There are a number of Romance anime that aren't just harem wish fulfillment for men; there have always been anime that are specifically targeted at women. I don't know why you're at such pains to say there aren't. Even if this were the case, what's stopping women from writing their own romance manga? Are women incapable of the creative act?

You want to sidestep Literotica, yet if anything this is the pitfall the majority of porn brained pooners fall into. A word you'll frequently run into when reading pooners posts on reddit is "fandom", now perhaps I'm incorrect here, but I've always associated the word "fandom" with western fiction as opposed to things like anime or manga. Shows such as Supernatural, Sherlock, Doctor who, and popular young adult book series such as harry potter, all of these had huge fandoms back in the heyday of tumblr, and within these fandoms was a strong current of MLM shipping.

Now I've never watched any of those shows , but I have read the harry potter novels and watched the movies, so I think I can safely say there are numerous straight romantic pairings you could place Harry in(at least 3 of which were directly hinted at throughout the series). Why then when I go to AO3 do I find this?
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And scrolling a few posts down I find this tag.
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I then clicked on a Mature rated story and was able to access it without even creating an account.
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Then I got curious about the male sex symbol and low and behold it stands for M/M.
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An astute observer will note the story captured in the screenshot above is about the Anime series Naruto. Now shocking as it may be, I am a bit of a weeabo, and infact Naruto was my favorite anime during my adolescence, so I am quite familiar with the shipping antics that went on within said community during the 2010's. Aside from the clearly hinted at, and eventually canon, couplings the most popular shipping pair I can remember was NarutoXSasuke. There is no indication throughout the entire series that either character is gay, in fact it's explicitly shown that they don't see each other in such light TWICE via comedic scenes.
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Both Harry Potter and Naruto were aimed at young adults, and both were to greater or lesser degrees popular with young women. I participated in both of these "fandoms" and I can tell you in the majority of cases the M/M ships were orchestrated by women. Now lets set aside the moral quandaries of writing sexual stories about young adults and ask the more relevant question to this discussion; Why does a HETEROSEXUAL woman need to couple two straight characters to feel safe consuming/self inserting into porn? The answer is she doesn't need to other than to fulfill a fetish. It's A Fetish.

Now lets take a step back and think about this from a parents perspective. You walk into your sons room and find him watching porn, open and shut case right? Flip the scenario, you walk into your daughters room and find her reading something, perhaps you ask what it is she's reading, and she simply replies "a harry potter fan fiction", are you going to press further? I doubt many parents would, even if you did are you going to slog through multiple pages just to get to the spicy bits? Even less likely in my opinion. Unless you're up your kids ass investigating every aspect of their internet browsing you're not likely to realize your daughter is consuming fetishistic material until she blind sides you by telling you she thinks she's really a man.

Again, I don't know why women on this website are at such pains to split hairs over this. When it comes to things such as gambling addictions, alcoholism, drug abuse, or any other such affliction we can all acknowledge that the men and women who've fallen victim to their own vices have essentially the same problems; yet when it comes to pooners and troons suddenly we need to draw pedantic distinctions in what I can only assume is some myopic effort to preserve a worldview in which men are disgusting perverts and women are pure damsels who poon out for more complex or legitimate reasons.

I've said it once, I'll say it again; you do young women no service denying their afflictions.

As for your promulgation of the feminist historical view I can only say you are retarded. A serious student of history will look at a marxist treatment of history and a feminist treatment of history and find similar faults; those being lazy and intellectually dishonest research, narrative driven framings which conveniently eschew the mountains of evidence that contradict such framings, and an inability to situate one's self within the mental, moral, and religious worldviews of the subject(s) at hand that is to say always and ever viewing things from a modern lens.

All of the above is why I have consistently argued with TERFS on this website, and why I will continue to annoy the retarded harrpies that insist on promulgating their mypoic and quite frankly retarded opinions.
 
Ol' Chunk O' Coal said:
It's a spectrum for sure. I see a lot of this behavior in transitioned older adults, while people that transition younger tend to show more trauma driven motivation. I'd be very interested in seeing a study that looks at the prevalence of ACE (adverse childhood experience) scores in people that transition across different age brackets/demographics. In the small cohort of trans and detrans people I know ACE scores are far above the population mean - in the range of 4-9. One of my TIM friends was subjected to unimaginable brutality as a child.
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There definitely are trannies that have been actually legitimately beaten by their families or horrifically raped. I know an acquaintance that is like this, an HSTS gay man MTF that was beaten by his father. I think for the trauma-induced ones, the desire to transition is rooted in a wanting to disassociate from their bodies and/or revert back to a more stress-free time period in their lives, which is why they're kind of associated with childlike behaviors. MTFs seem to think by "becoming a woman", they can avoid all the stressful hard work that men are expected to do, and avoid having to provide for a family, by instead wanting to be a bimbo slut that has a sugar daddy pay for and take care of everything. The correlation between "daddy issues" and "daddy kink" is definitely real.

But I have also known an AGP transbian that has super liberal parents that send him money and aren't even anti-trans, yet they just don't support his fucking degenerate druggie lifestyle. He claims he's "too autistic to have a job", even though he seems 100% physically capable of it. I had even met said tranny's grandmother, who seemed very kind and caring. I definitely agree the "late transitioners" are more likely to just be sissy hypno porn addicts. But there are also Gen Z porn addicts trooning out too.

I always take trannies who claim to have "abusive families" with a grain of salt. Puppychan is a great example, claiming that her family is Super Turbo Abusive, yet they allow her to leech off them and never get a job. You'd think a truly abusive family would kick her out or beat her or something. But some trannies categorize "abusive" to mean things like "voted for Trump and told me not to chop my dick off". Trannies have a higher chance of having a Cluster B personality disorder, and it's common for Cluster B people to claim "Everyone in my life has been abusive", that everyone else in their life/past has been at fault, in order to dodge responsibility for their own actions.
 
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I participated in both of these "fandoms" and I can tell you in the majority of cases the M/M ships were orchestrated by women
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Of course they're orchestrated by women, did you even read what I wrote? This is a direct result of the lack of decent female characters.

Naruto is the perfect example. You know why people flock to the Naruto x Sasuke ship? Because they're the most fleshed out characters in the series (and Sasuke is attractive, that obviously helps). All the female characters in Naruto are *exactly* like I described - Sakura is the demure perfect waifu who is useless through the entire series, almost devoid of all personality and becomes the stereotypical healer and the perfect wife in the spin-off. Who the fuck would want to identify with her?
Kishimoto is a sexist Japanese man and it shows, he's completely unable to write interesting female characters that come even close to the impact of the male ones.
Naruto and Sasuke on the other hand, are cool, tragic and things happen to them and they grow thorough the series.

Harry Potter is almost the same, with a pitiful amount of interesting female characters in general and the ones that do have a bit of backstory are very niche. I mean you have a smartypants and a lunatic. The rest is absolutely forgettable. Do you remember anything about Cho Chang other than her name? Did Ron's sister do anything of note other than being a damsel in distress in book 2?
They're pairing up the males because they're more interesting, more attractive, cooler, more powerful, have more chemistry (enemies to lovers trope comes to mind) etc.

You're just proving my point.

If there was enough good material for women out there, yaoi would be far less popular. If women wouldn't be shamed for their sexuality, it would be less popular.
There would still be some women consuming it and there would still be sick degenerates.
 
There are shoujo anime directly aimed at girls. They will have romance stories sometimes.

The type to poon out aren't interested in stories about girls or women because they have an obsession with m/m. It isn't a question of quality or whether or not the stuff is made to appeal to girls. In fact they seem to explicitly avoid shoujo or seinen stuff that focuses on girls interests.

I grew up a geeky enough girl to get into fandom nonsense and have seen the behavior first hand and read a lot of stuff. It's very clearly just sex stuff for the sake of it and it's not deeper than that or pairing stuff that has a lot of weird stuff in it otherwise. They go into the most visible fandoms that have enough characters to "ship" and ignore everything else because getting to make stuff around different ships is the beginning and end of their enjoyment with the stuff they watch or read. They'll even obsess over RPF of bands and other real people.

I don't know what's gained by trying to deny they're just being perverts.
 
Kujo Jotaro said:
There are a number of Romance anime that aren't just harem wish fulfillment for men; there have always been anime that are specifically targeted at women. I don't know why you're at such pains to say there aren't. Even if this were the case, what's stopping women from writing their own romance manga? Are women incapable of the creative act?
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This right here. If the problem really is "the female characters aren't written well, therefore I'll ship the male characters together" why don't these women try to write the female characters in ways that make them interesting? To use your Harry Potter example, I haven't read the books but Ginny in the books was said to be a lot more interesting and better written than her movie counterpart. Why don't these women write Ginny like her book counterpart then if they don't like her portrayal in the movies? Idk, I feel like even in fandoms where the women are written alright, they still decide to ship the male characters together. So what the fuck do these women want then?
Slideshow Bill said:
I think I've reached peak-peak trans. It just isn't fun anymore. Fuck it. Let everyone get SRS if they want it. In fact, make it mandatory for anyone who identifies as trans. It doesn't matter. They can never change their sex and repeating that over and over is tiring. Let these people end their bloodlines and in a few generations, we hopefully won't have to worry about it anymore. I'm graypillied. Things won't get better but maybe there's some good in that. I'm just tired.
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I get where you're coming from but I want to share a story here. I recently went to an amusement park with cousins and this may sound weird but I did not see a single trans person there out of hundreds if not thousands of people. Not to make it seem like I was purposefully looking for them, but if you were an alien whose only contact with humans was through the internet you would think that the majority of kids were transgender. Like its really bizarre. Recently I saw a transgender comic where a woman (who identifies as non binary) was having a panic attack over her hair being short and people assuming she was another gender. It had 138,000 people liking it. Who are these people? It really calls into question why we are passing laws to appeal to these people when they literally are so non existing irl that I wonder if people on the left are getting gaslighted by social media to double down on this.
 
Lentil Soup said:
Different hypothetical I've personally wondered about:

If a pill was invented that completely got rid of gender dysphoria without any need to transition on any level, how do you think progressives would take it?

From observing debate in like the deaf community where some deaf people label treatment as cultural genocide I'm inclined to think a lot of trans people would react like that.
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Theres already therapy to get rid of gender dysphoria just like there's therapy to treat other types of body dysmorphia, but it is seen as conversion therapy. This hypothetical pill would be no diferent no matter how efficient it was.
Trangenders do not want help at all. They do not seek self improvement
 
Lentil Soup said:
If a pill was invented that completely got rid of gender dysphoria without any need to transition on any level, how do you think progressives would take it?
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Ozempic already exists, and there's still fat people. Someone else on this site has said that apparently some trannies, after Ozempic, stopped being dysphoric. It's almost like gender dysphoria and body dysmorphia are the same thing and "gendered souls" don't exist.
 
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Didn't an actual psychotic work once on someone by curing their gender issues? I think it's name began with a P.
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Pimozide, yeah. The side effects likely wouldn't be worth it, which is probably why there's just that case study, as a curiosity.
 
Aunt Carol said:
Pimozide, yeah. The side effects likely wouldn't be worth it, which is probably why there's just that case study, as a curiosity.
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Maybe they should test it out a few more times to see if it is worth it. Or just give everyone with body image issues body dysmorphia therapy.
 
Why is AGP hair SO bad? It's uniquely bad compared to every other single group of people. It looks like they put tremendous effort into making it look that bad. It's always the most greasy roots and bangs you've ever seen on a person, and then the driest, most tangled ends (usually bleach-damaged). It literally looks like they aggressively wash their ends with no conditioner every day and never touch their roots. Autistic, fat, retarded, and mentally-ill women don't have hair that bad, not even the trans-identifying ones. Normal men with long hair don't have hair that bad, not even the gross neckbeard types. HSTS at least figure out how to use a hairbrush and sometimes extensions/wigs. WTF is up with AGP hair.
 
Arbiter said:
Why is AGP hair SO bad? It's uniquely bad compared to every other single group of people. It looks like they put tremendous effort into making it look that bad. It's always the most greasy roots and bangs you've ever seen on a person, and then the driest, most tangled ends (usually bleach-damaged). It literally looks like they aggressively wash their ends with no conditioner every day and never touch their roots. Autistic, fat, retarded, and mentally-ill women don't have hair that bad, not even the trans-identifying ones. Normal men with long hair don't have hair that bad, not even the gross neckbeard types. HSTS at least figure out how to use a hairbrush and sometimes extensions/wigs. WTF is up with AGP hair.
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I mean, AGP is a humiliation fetish at its core, isn't it? I doubt they care how bad their appearance is. It might even turn them on even more to be called tranny freaks. I'm sure some of them are at least a bit self-aware about the fact they don't pass as women whatsoever and that makes them feel even more humiliated and turned on. Maybe HRT also fucks up their hair somehow, I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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