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7he47r0n said:
If that is the case, what explains the lack of technological advancement amongst peoples like the Inuit, Eskimo, native Siberians, and so on?
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The same explanation. Rather than drought and desert they are in tundra and permafrost. I don't see many of the groups you mentioned with much agricultural technology either because they don't have major seasonal shifts allowing for it. However, the cold does allow for more long term food storage and therefore afford some breathing room to adapt to the environment and develop some specially suited technologies. Similar to the water finders of Africa.
 
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Prester John said:
He's a "white Hispanic," as the New York Times assured us.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/22/us/police-chief-draws-fire-in-trayvon-martin-shooting.html
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Are the Bee time travelers?
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7he47r0n said:
If that is the case, what explains the lack of technological advancement amongst peoples like the Inuit, Eskimo, native Siberians, and so on?
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Exact same thing. The harsh climate, remote landscape, and limited access of their respective regions limited these groups to outside contact and thus the main driving force needed for any sort of concerted move out of nomadic, subsistence living - i.e. risk of external invasion. You only have so much need to innovate and change set ways within isolated communities when at worst you're experiencing environmental dangers that (being largely unknown) are deemed to be the work of gods/spirits.

Early civilization emerged and grew as it did where it did in part from the lack of convenient geographical boundaries limiting outside interactions.
 
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7he47r0n said:
If that is the case, what explains the lack of technological advancement amongst peoples like the Inuit, Eskimo, native Siberians, and so on?
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If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the Winters are so long and harsh. Hunting and gathering becomes the main focus out of necessity rather than lacking a need to do anything else like in more temperate climates. European weather gave people a reason to prepare and time enough to do it.
 
HumanHive said:
Read Guns Germs and Steel. You need good nutrition and the right geography for civilizational development. Also civilizational collapse is a thing, which requires the most rare of all things - good governance - to avoid. The Eurasian exchange of ideals allowed for unprecedented levels of nutrition and preservation of knowledge between collapses. So while in the Americas the decline of the Olmecs, Maya, and Mississippian mound builders set civilization back to square one; Europe could tank multiple civilizational collapses thanks to surviving colonies and empires nearby that could help rebuilt after the collapse.
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So what's the root cause of civilizational stagnation within once advanced cultures, like the various iterations of the Chinese Empire or the many Muslim cultures?
 
Brahma said:
I can't remember where but I read/heard that the guidelines say 15 minutes was the max time, rather than there being an advisable time.
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aye, but there is also situational awareness as well, as in- you don't go for the max 15 minutes every time.

A person's breathing is getting shallow? Switch positions and judge the situation basically. I can get a lapse in judgement, but not a lapse in attempting to mitigate the situation entirely.
 
KiwiFuzz said:
There is a whole other thread for civilizational collapse.
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every thread is a prime thread for waxing poetic about civilizational collapse when you have yet to pay your own rent yet view yourself as the scion to save the west

the people thinking riots will end america as we know it when this trial ends have to realize that 2021 % 4 != 0
 
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7he47r0n said:
So what's the root cause of civilizational stagnation within once advanced cultures, like the various iterations of the Chinese Empire or the many Muslim cultures?
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It varies, and I could write a whole essay about it that's off topic, but the long and the short of it is that all civilizations have proadaptive and maladaptive traits; and what was once proadaptive can become maladaptive over time. The classic example is Rome, which had a system where economic wealth would flow from military conquest via looting. Which works out if you're looting Greece and Egypt - very wealthy places - but not so much in Gaul and Spain. So instead of gold loot, the military started being awarded land rights in the places they conquered; which was good because overpopulation in urban centers and grumblings about massive farms worked by slaves was causing issues back in Italy. Also Gaul and Spain are very fertile, so grain and wine began to flow back to Rome. But what now? Britain isn't good for growing wheat or wine. Neither is Germany. Dacia is even worse. Mesopotamia is good, but it's a bit of a bridge too far. So the previous proadaptive system of "Imperialism = wealth = more Imperialism" collapses in on itself. The army starts infighting, Emperors start being assassinated, and the economy stagnates. Civilization collapse, except in the Eastern Empire which is wealthy via being on the receiving end of the Spice Trade.

Every civilization has their fatal flaw in the foundation, just waiting for when it will bring down the whole building. So don't blame barbarians and bad emperors and christianity for Rome falling, because what really killed Rome was this fatal inherent conceit (and no doubt just one among many) and nothing could have been done to stop the fall of Rome unless the entire economic and social system changed in the right direction. Which it did, after the collapse.
 
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Extreme Aneurysm said:
Daddy Jersh, they're controlled by a singular political party. Bad optics if they do it now.
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The BLM politicos maybe, but I anticipate things will still pop off regardless because a lot of nigs are gonna nig no matter what the DNC wants. Some rioters were conscious political actors taking orders from a command structure, but many were also just nigs and lumpen with an ambient want to loot/burn shit who got worked into a frenzy.
 
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HumanHive said:
Read Guns Germs and Steel. You need good nutrition and the right geography for civilizational development. Also civilizational collapse is a thing, which requires the most rare of all things - good governance - to avoid. The Eurasian exchange of ideals allowed for unprecedented levels of nutrition and preservation of knowledge between collapses. So while in the Americas the decline of the Olmecs, Maya, and Mississippian mound builders set civilization back to square one; Europe could tank multiple civilizational collapses thanks to surviving colonies and empires nearby that could help rebuilt after the collapse.

And I ain't talking "Muslim golden age preserved Aristotle" shit (which is wrong, Eastern Roman Empire stuck around and Neoplatonism was a big hit in Medieval Europe); but rather the interplay of Greek and Persian society, influence from India and China, and the like. It was a massive dance of knowledge and trade goods that lasted centuries, and it gave Europe a huge advantage that they eventually used to take over the world.
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I've never read GG&S. I do remember the right-o-sphere alleging that it was basically a bunch of post hoc just-so stories to paper over the real genetic differences between different peoples of the earth. However, you may be pleased to know that even accepting the book's arguments at face value has graduated to full-blown white supremacy:

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Kathleen Lowrey argued that Guns, Germs, and Steel "lets the West off the hook" and "poisonously whispers: mope about colonialism, slavery, capitalism, racism, and predatory neo-imperialism all you want, but these were/are nobody's fault. This is a wicked cop-out. [...] It basically says [non-Western cultures/societies] are sorta pathetic, but that bless their hearts, they couldn’t/can’t help it."[9]
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