11/13 Paris Terror Attacks

At least 18 are dead after a series of explosions and shootings. There have been at least 4 separate, but coordinated incidents.

CNN live stream:
http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn

CNN also just announced that there are also 60 hostages being held in a theater.

Update: More than 128 dead. We got a new rating. Basically, everything went fucky.
 
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Prreeeeeetty sure he meant to say that the response to those jihadist shoudl be to launch a new crusade against the towelheads.

And not the SJW "B-b-b-but muh crusades in the past!"

Especially because the crusades started BECAUSE OF THE MUSLIMS IN THE FIRST PLACE BUT LETS JUST CONVENIENTLY FORGET THAT.
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It was a really obvious joke ya spastics.
 
It helps, for the sake of discussion if nothing else, to seperate the dogma that is fed to the rank and file terrorists, with the actual goals of those in power. The dogma is simplistic, easy to consume propaganda that merely paints everything as them vs us, and us as the source of all ill in their society. It's crude, simple, and effective, and we've seen it used in countless governments, including our own during the Red Scare, for centuries. Add in a bit of religious devotion and fanaticism, and it becomes child's play to convince an angry young man to strap a bomb to himself to kill the devils in men's clothing.

The actual ringleaders however, are more nuanced than that. While I won't speculate on the exact goals of the leaders of ISIS, they generally can be boiled down to control. They want control and autonomy of the territory they occupy. They want power and control over those under them. So on and so on. Failings on the home front can easily be spun into morale successes by "striking back" against the enemy on their home turf. It's not random senseless violence to them, it's a sort of cold calculation. Every attack they perpetrate strengths their power base, and buys them political power inside the organization's structure.

This is true. I should make it clear that I was speaking in terms of the general fanatic, not the leaders of these organisations. This is politics, just a form of politics that is, by and large, alien to the western mindset. It does make me wonder what, on an objective level, separates the person strapping a bomb to himself from the person ordering him to do so.
 
It does make me wonder what, on an objective level, separates the person strapping a bomb to himself from the person ordering him to do so.

Bloodlines mostly. Islam is really big on the whole unbroken bloodline to the prophet thing. In a western society, the leaders would almost all be "blue bloods". And it's estimated there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of these descendants alive today.
 
Bloodlines mostly. Islam is really big on the whole unbroken bloodline to the prophet thing. In a western society, the leaders would almost all be "blue bloods". And it's estimated there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of these descendants alive today.

I wonder if they consider it more or less convenient that it's literally impossible to ascertain the veracity of these bloodlines, since the associated genealogical records were destroyed by the Romans nearly 2000 years ago.
 
You can care about two tragedies at the same time. Its not that hard.

Edit: I'm not referring to Sweet and Savory. I'm referring to the tweets.

Is anyone dead or even injured at Mizzou? Did ickle-wicle-widdums even scrape a knee? How the fuck is Mizzou a tragedy when the only things that are hurt are the feels of spoiled brats?
 
Is anyone dead or even injured at Mizzou? Did ickle-wicle-widdums even scrape a knee? How the fuck is Mizzou a tragedy when the only things that are hurt are the feels of spoiled brats?

It's kind of worrying when you realize that the bespoken mentality of hardline SJW's isn't all that different from the people who decided the rational response to a political cartoon was the bust out the assault rifles. True, I don't believe there's a single SJW on the planet who has the physical capacity to stage a coordinated armed assault on the source of a perceived offense, but the seed is still there.
 
I wonder if they consider it more or less convenient that it's literally impossible to ascertain the veracity of these bloodlines, since the associated genealogical records were destroyed by the Romans nearly 2000 years ago.

To clarify to the non history buff, by "Romans" Sunrise is referring to what most people know as the Byzantine Empire, the Greek speaking eastern half of the Roman Empire after the final split caused by the death of Emperor Theodosius. The Western Empire, which is what many traditionally think of as "Rome", did not survive to see the life and death of Muhommad.
 
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Jesus, I saw this while I was at work. Soyez en sécurité, mes Kiwis françaises, et bonne chance.

ETA: The horrible part is that the worst is far from over, & it's only a matter of time before the witch hunts start. If I remember correctly, the ghettos outside of Paris are home to a significant Arab population. I have a bad feeling.
Unless you think all french kiwis are female it's "Français".

As for the witch hunt. For Charlie Hebdo it was usually a few molotovs and swastikas on Mosques entrance but no death.
However I think the only way to prevent real backslash is for Hollande, Russia, and everyone to move they butt and decide to act. The population is tired of hearing of ISIS, and even more tired of the refugees which are 90% caused by ISIS. With the European Council trying to find solution to anticipate the immigration wave for the UPCOMING YEAR.

A few bombing left and right won't be enough now since it's basically what they were doing for more than a year now.
 
I'm very concerned for a friend of mine who lives close to Paris. He hasn't replied to any of my messages, and all his social media accounts are on radio silence. We haven't talked in a while, but I think that's bothering me the most. This whole event is incredibly shitty. I just hope it comes to an end soon, hope for humanity is dipping into an all-time low. *sigh*
 
It's kind of worrying when you realize that the bespoken mentality of hardline SJW's isn't all that different from the people who decided the rational response to a political cartoon was the bust out the assault rifles. True, I don't believe there's a single SJW on the planet who has the physical capacity to stage a coordinated armed assault on the source of a perceived offense, but the seed is still there.
Well, it's more they ability to tunnel vision on literally anything they want to put something against them, and once that has happened and they manage to label you ANYTHING from the tumblr package (Racist/Mysoginist/Homophobic/Transphobic/Islamophobic/fatphobic) they consider you lower than human and EVERYTHING IS ALLOWED.

This was visible most recently with Zamii, where they piled on her with everything they could, then turned on the SU staff who defended her by finding a single pic they did years ago and using that to call them out.

Or again, the Charlie Hebdo thing I managed to dig back. This shit had 60K notes. Despite all of it being bullshit.

I'm very concerned for a friend of mine who lives close to Paris. He hasn't replied to any of my messages, and all his social media accounts are on radio silence. We haven't talked in a while, but I think that's bothering me the most. This whole event is incredibly shitty. I just hope it comes to an end soon, hope for humanity is dipping into an all-time low. *sigh*

Keep in mind that it happened at 10:30 PM, up to almost midnight. And it's 8 AM right now on a saturday, your buddy is probably still sleeping. In fact I still haven't slept yet but I called my mom just now and she was just getting the news on FB.

Edit:Also if it makes you feel better, even with this there as been less death in the western european world by terrorist the ENTIRE YEAR than a single month of car accident in France. Honestly if it weren't for the shit in Syria/Iraq the western world would be almost at an all time high in term of quality of life. As proved by the fact that people in the US have to literally dig up shit to complain about now.
 
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I'm very concerned for a friend of mine who lives close to Paris. He hasn't replied to any of my messages, and all his social media accounts are on radio silence. We haven't talked in a while, but I think that's bothering me the most. This whole event is incredibly shitty. I just hope it comes to an end soon, hope for humanity is dipping into an all-time low. *sigh*

I know how natural it is to fear the worst in times like this. But with so much panic and chaos in Paris, and the way so many thousands of people have been locked into the nearest building for their own safety whether they actually live there or no, it's pretty easy to imagine a scenario where your friend forgets or drops his phone in the panic and has no option but to stay put until he's told it's safe to go home. I know that telling someone not to worry at a time like this is like telling the sky not to rain, but there are a lot of things that can stop any person from getting online even briefly. If your friend is okay you'll hear from him very soon, I've no doubt.
 
You'd think those SJW would try and find some solidarity with other people suffering from problems. But they don't care about the actual "justice" part. It's their way of getting attention.

I can't wait until they're so salty they kill 100 of themselves trying to get back the same amount of attention. I've never heard of Mizzou, and now I think very lowly of them.
 
Jesus fucking Christ... I was actually planning on a belated honeymoon in Paris next year because my wife and I thought it would be so romantic. And now you're not even safe anymore inside a fucking concert hall or at a football game... (:_(

What disgusting barbarians would do such a thing?
 
Jesus fucking Christ... I was actually planning on a belated honeymoon in Paris next year because my wife and I thought it would be so romantic. And now you're not even safe anymore inside a fucking concert hall or at a football game... (:_(

Changing your plans is letting the terrorists win. Go anyway. It'll show support for the Parisians.
 
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