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autisticdragonkin said:
That does not seem like a rational decision at all. If it were a rational decision then wouldn't it be far more costly to have a large amount of children while poor because they may actually reach a seriously low level of resource investment whereas while rich one can have a child thrive with less of one's total resources and even get economies of scale when one is rich and fertile enough (such as older children helping out with taking care of younger children as well as fixed costs such as hand me downs). There also is the hazard of overparenting where a parent may put resources into a child sufficient that it causes negative returns which can easily be resolved by having more children. It very much is a law of nature that fertility works this way but you have to give more support to it being rational as opposed to irrational
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@AnOminous knows that I am right about this but just doesn't want to admit it so he just rated the post autistic
 
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autisticdragonkin said:
@AnOminous knows that I am right about this but just doesn't want to admit it so he just rated the post autistic
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No, what you said just so clearly shows that how the vast bulk of humanity arranges their familial affairs is as alien to you as if you just stepped off a spaceship, to the point it would be absolutely useless even to try to explain it.
 
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AnOminous said:
No, what you said just so clearly shows that how the vast bulk of humanity arranges their familial affairs is as alien to you as if you just stepped off a spaceship, to the point it would be absolutely useless even to try to explain it.
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You said that people in the west take a quality over quantity approach which is rational when one is rich but not when one is poor. I was trying to argue that such a strategy is more rational when one is poor because rich parents can be helicopter parents and screw up their children when they have a small number and that once one is completely capable of meeting the basic necessities for one's children then having more children could result in more stimulation due to interaction with siblings and as a result better children (but in syria if you have 8 children you can only feed 1 and they all starve)

AnOminous said:
The more affluent and educated a populace is, the less it reproduces because people rationally choose to have fewer children and devote more resources to each individual child, ensuring more affluence. These morons are basically complaining about the natural results of success. This is one of those social phenomena that is so universal it's akin to a law of nature.
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Or were you saying that Third world people are irrational and that is why they have so many children? (which means I still could be right about it being better to have more children in the developed world but that wouldn't be anything to do with your argument)
 
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autisticdragonkin said:
Or were you saying that Third world people are irrational and that is why they have so many children? (which means I still could be right about it being better to have more children in the developed world but that wouldn't be anything to do with your argument)
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Dammit ADK, can you really not go a day without being autistic?
 
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autisticdragonkin said:
Or were you saying that Third world people are irrational and that is why they have so many children? (which means I still could be right about it being better to have more children in the developed world but that wouldn't be anything to do with your argument)
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No, but they a) have limited access to birth control; b) are living in shitty countries with no social safety net; so c) rely on familial ties to have someone to take care of them when they can't any more; but d) live in shitty countries where any children they do have are likely to die young themselves.

One's ability to be rational depends a lot on having one's basic needs met, and when day to day survival is the issue, long term rational planning is more or less out the window. See Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

So some of it is limited ability to use rationality because of difficult circumstances, and some of it is even if they were rational, they lack basics that make such long term planning realistic, like birth control or abortion.
 
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And it gave me a rash

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