I explained what he gets out of it. You don't have to agree with with me, it is entirely possible that 1MM is real and drops over $7,000 on Phil so that he can piss it away on Doordash and gacha, but when you truly think about it, knowing that this person gets 100% nothing in return for his $7000+ yearly investment, it looks more likely that 1MM isn't real.
Don't compare me to Doody, I don't just pull nonsense out of my ass because it sounds like a fun theory.
Yes you did, but your explanation is demonstrably wrong. DSP gets the most out of his dents when he has EMERGENCY streams and some kind of dire situation. Priming the tip jar is antithetical to that. DSP is stupid, but not that stupid. He knows how to milk his dents: "I need help!"
This isn't even a fun theory though. A fun theory is DSP murdered khet and the AAANTS are slowly devouring her rotting corpse. It's also more likely than this 1MM conspiracy bullshit, as it doesn't fit Phil's MO one little bit.
Can we dive into the mind of 1MM for a second? This dude tips at least 20$ daily. That's at minimum $600 a month, $7,200 a year. This doesn't include the random $25, $50, and $100 tips he leaves sometimes. Are we to believe that someone who is never in chat, drops the equivalent of a monthly payment on a brand new Infiniti Q60 on Phil? I really think this person isn't real, and Phil just uses it as a primer to get the ball rolling on tips, thinking his wheelchairs are more likely to tip if they see they are already half way to a "goal".
EDIT: I think Tip track detractors need to account for this and start making adjustments to tip totals, and have fields that exclude 1MM and include 1MM. I think having data on both sides will help.
It's been discussed plenty. 1MM is likely PlanetJeff due to the timing, subsequent special Paypal direct tips after being doxed, and there's not many people willing to burn many thousands of dollars on Dave.
Jeff is a guy that makes $140k/year with a cushy government job in Utah and a stereotypical nice happy Mormon family before his wife died and his kids have probably moved out. $20 is pocket change for him compared to other dents. As for why Jeff got drawn into Phil's vortex, that's a tough one to figure out.
Jeff is a guy that makes $140k/year with a cushy government job in Utah and a stereotypical nice happy Mormon family before his wife died and his kids have probably moved out. $20 is pocket change for him compared to other dents. As for why Jeff got drawn into Phil's vortex, that's a tough one to figure out.
Yes it was another woman with the same name, Jeff's wife is very much alive and presumably oblivious to the fact her husband gives thousands to a 41 year old man so he can wear some glasses.
I explained what he gets out of it. You don't have to agree with with me, it is entirely possible that 1MM is real and drops over $7,000 on Phil so that he can piss it away on Doordash and gacha, but when you truly think about it, knowing that this person gets 100% nothing in return for his $7000+ yearly investment, it looks more likely that 1MM isn't real.
Don't compare me to Doody, I don't just pull nonsense out of my ass because it sounds like a fun theory.
I can see where you're coming from because from the perspective of "normal" people it is just batshit insane to drop this kind of money on a streamer while getting almost zero in return.
There comes a point where one starts to think: "This is so insanely retarded, it has to be fake"
But the last 1MM tips messages solidified for me that the tips are real for good.
In one of the latest tips there was a somewhat longer message attached (might the 50$ one from the last stream).
You can see on screen how DSP's eyes are darting from left to right on the screen while reading said message.
I just don't believe that Dave would be capable of acting out something like this if the tips weren't real.
I'm honestly I'm a bit surprised how many people are:
- Still on the fence about about the 1mm tips being real
- Unconvinced or unaware of the link between 1MM and Planet Jeff
- Just now coming around to the idea of 1MM being real because of his recent tip messages.
I don't say this to be demeaning. I say it, because I feel that this could be a good opportunity to have an open discussion about it, and answer any questions people may have. I know that for some, this topic is pretty cut and dry, and doesn't need any further discussion or speculation, and you may find this stupid - fair enough. But considering that there are people within the greater detractor-sphere who have poisoned the well regarding this topic, purely for profit, it may be a good idea to try to get people on the same page, or at least, put the book in front of them.
So, if anyone has questions, feel free to ask. Btw, I'm not the fucking expert, but I know a few things, as do some other users of this subforum.
I should also note, that Phil has been receiving 1MM tips for more than three years now. These tips first appear on @actually Monthly Roundups, and they continued onto Piece of Peace's tips tracker. However, there is a seven month period of time in which these 1MM tips were not tracked - after actually stopped doing the Monthly Roundup, and before PoP began his tips tracker. I have gone back through old DSP videos and DDM restreams, and tracked these tips myself. I have also gone through actually's old data, and pulled out the 1mm tips, so that, if we put all of the data together, we can have a roughly accurate estimate to how much money 1MM has given Phil over the years, which, if you'll entertain the idea, can be added to the total amount that Planet Jeff has given Phil since he began whaling back in December 2017.
Just for clarification, when I say "1MM tips" I mean the entire rotating repertoire of sock names: (PlanetJeff) Nocouture, Silentbob, Bobbajo, Pookie, Wetnurse, OneMinuteMan, Coccyx, and Rubbernut.
I wrote all of these tips out on paper like some sort of fucking autist, and they really do look like some sort of schizophrenic Pepe Silvia shit, so in the meantime, I will probably begin to move these all over to a text file that will be easily readable.
This is a valid observation but I will counter it with the fact that Phil has been looking more and more paranoid lately with his eyes darting around the room like he was tripping or something.
Speaking of that.
What is the link between these accounts aside from "Jeff stopped tipping and 1MM started tipping"?
I'm pretty sure there were also speculations at some point that any of the other whales like OIC or ndo were also getting linked to those names like:
This is a valid observation but I will counter it with the fact that Phil has been looking more and more paranoid lately with his eyes darting around the room like he was tripping or something.
I didn't mean his usual antics darting around like a mental patient.
He looked at the screen and you could see that he was reading a message in his eyes.
Speaking of that.
What is the link between these accounts aside from "Jeff stopped tipping and 1MM started tipping"?
I'm pretty sure there were also speculations at some point that any of the other whales like OIC or ndo were also getting linked to those names like:
I was wondering this as well. I feel like detractors that make content just say "these accounts are all X dent" and use evidence of "they all say similar messages" or "This one stopped and then this one appeared". Doesn't mean it's not true, just some Supercrzy level of evidence that doesn't prove anything. I still don't think Phil is 1MM since he would be fighting against himself, but with the levels of retardation in this sphere it's worth talking about and/or correcting if there is real proof its a specific person.
I will admit, there is no 100%, for sure, concrete proof that they are the same person. So if that's what I led you believe, then I should apologize. However, if you will give me the benefit of the doubt, I can try to lay out the puzzle pieces.
Maybe I should rephrase - "1MM is Planet Jeff" is the only theory that makes any sense, or holds any water.
Jeff gets doxed on Oct 14th, 2019. After which he disappears, and we have all the autism about trolls getting his workplace twitter account shutdown, and Phil banning anyone in chat who brings it up. Two weeks later, on Oct 30th, a new twitch account called "NoCouture" is created, and this person tips Phil $100 overnight. Later that day, during Phil's Halloween begathon, this same person tips another $100, and then $164 shorty after. That's $364 that this brand new, never before seen account, drops on Phil, last minute, to get him exactly to his begathon goal.
Planet Jeff has a history of whaling out hard, last minute, to bankroll Phil's begathons. For example, Jasper2K and Christmas 2017. This is circumstantial, absolutely. But it is a recognizable pattern.
Over the course of November and December, NoCouture, as well as two new names: Silentbob and Bobbajo, continue to whale the fuck out.
At this point, I should pose the question - Phil has three, supposedly, brand new, very real, and totally different whales who appeared out of nowhere. He doesn't question who they are, at all. Why?
In November, Phil gives Planet Jeff a shoutout, for being a patron, during Ask The King. Now... does this mean that Jeff is still around? Maybe, but not exactly. Jeff had been a patron since Phil created it back in 2016 or whatever it was, so it could just be the case that Jeff had his Patreon set to auto-renew, and the tithe just went through like it always has.
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In December, Phil gets a tip from PwDubz asking if he had heard from Planet Jeff. Phil says that he has not heard from him... but "every once in a while he comes back, and we hear from him."
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This is not the case.
Like I just mentioned, the only ""appearance"" of Jeff in the past two months since the doxing, was his Ask The King shoutout, which again, could have just been some auto-renew bullshit. Yet here Phil is, telling us, that the guy he was banning people for even mentioning just two months ago, not only "comes back" which has not happened even once, let alone multiple times, but he also says "we hear from him, from time to time." which also has not happened once, let alone multiple times, even if you count the Ask The King shoutout, as "hearing from him."
Then Phil, for no fucking reason, says "maybe we'll hear from him around the holidays, who knows?" as he throws his hand up and puts on this very overexaggerated facial expression, in an attempt to convince you of what he's saying.
So this is all just in the first two months after his "disappearance" which, as we will come to find out, is not what happened.
Jeff never disappeared.
Jeff has popped up to renew his twitch membership, and even to tip Phil during streams, multiple times. He even got caught lurking in Phil's chat once, when he randomly received a gifted sub. And I know I just discounted the November 2019 Ask The King shoutout, but now consider that Jeff has been consistently getting shoutouts during Ask The King, for the last four years. Once, even a few times, could be auto-renew, sure. But four years.. after Jeff has reappeared on stream multiple times since then? I fucking doubt it.
* I have not included the Ask The King shoutouts here, because I think those are easy enough for anytime to find.
( 2:25 ) Renews his twitch sub
( 6:40 ) Jeff submitted a question for Ask The King
( 5:14 ) Jeff tips Phil, same day as Ask The King ^
( 31:40 ) Jeff tips Phil
I cannot embed this one, because it's a live stream, but it should be timestamped
So.. why am I mentioning these appearances? If Jeff is not 1MM, then we are to believe that one of Phil's biggest, oldest, wealthiest, and most loyal whales, who has been in behind the scenes contact with Phil since at least 2018, who has stuck around for all this time even after getting doxed.. has just stopped giving Phil money, except in the form of an Ask The King shoutout, which is something that Phil doesn't even do anymore.
And despite this - despite Jeff supposedly just no longer supporting, Phil cannot get the guy's name out of his fucking mouth.
Phil has brought up Jeff four times this year. Twice, in very weird segments where he says it's insane conspiracy bullshit that people believe that Jeff is 1MM - a detractor idea that Phil is seemingly very aware of. And twice again, during weird segments about Hypnotic Jinx, in which Phil was just purposefully muddying the waters.
Jeff
( 3:27 ) Phil claims that he hasn't seen Jeff in years, even though he's consistently been shouting him out during Ask The King
Apologies for the double post. I had too many "pieces of media" in my previous post to answer your second question here.
The only speculation that I'm aware of regarding these two being 1MM, is mainly just people saying "I think it's him" without providing any supporting evidence, whether it be circumstantial, or whatever.
As far as I know, NDO has never once sock tipped. Ever. In fact you can see his name up there in one of the Monthly Roundups I linked, December I think. So if he was 1MM, he'd have to be tipping and chatting on his main, while also logging into a different twitch account to whale the fuck out via tips, and gifted subs, under three different identities.
As far as the caffeinated one goes, I have seen speculation about that, but in instances other than "I just think it's him" I believe this speculation comes from a few incidents, that can be confusing if you don't have the full context.
The first being, that after a certain point, when the rotation of sock names was a regular thing (NoCouture, Silentbob, Bobbajo, etc) someone began sending Phil tips, in which they were impersonating NoCouture, or SilentBob, and even Planet Jeff. Phil has always been very quick to shut these down, and say "No, this is not the real Silentbob." or "This is a fake Planet Jeff."
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However, there was another incident in which NoCouture tips Phil $100, and someone in chat says "Thanks OIC" or something to that effect, and Phil leans over to ban them at fucking breakneck speed. Someone who's seeing that for the first time may think that this is an indication that 1MM is in fact OIC, but I think it's the opposite. I think it's more likely an indication that OIC was the one who was sending these impersonation tips, and it made Phil mad. So when someone in chat makes the connection, Phil freaks out and he has to cut a fucking promo on them.
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EDIT: Oh, and I forgot to mention - These NoCouture/1mm tips began back in October 2019. OIC didn't even show up in Phil's chat until May 2020. Or.. atleast that's what Ryan wants us to believe but that's a different discussion for a different thread.
but that's a different discussion for a different thread.