2023-01-13 - Ali Breland of Mother Jones: Reporting reaching out with some questions about KF for a story

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Meat Target said:
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Since the original comment thread isn't going well they're taking another swing:

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'''''Reportedly''''' is doing some Eddie Hall levels of heavy lifting here.
 
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Alabaster Disaster said:
Since the original comment thread isn't going well they're taking another swing:


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''''Reportedly''''' is doing some Eddie Hall levels of heavy lifting here.
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IIRC, Chloe Sagal explicitly said we had nothing to do with their self-delete. And it was Alister Pinsof of Destructoid, not us, who reported on Sagal's IndieGoGo fraud.

Razorfist had the best take: "Apparently the truth becomes less truthy when someone attempts to off themselves in the aftermath. Or happens to be a member of an en vogue minority group. I don't give a front-flipping fuck if Chloe Sagal turned themself into Steven Seagal. They fucking lied to people, and that shit needs to be reported."
 
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I know journos are allergic to honest and well researched reporting but goddamn this article is absolutely PACKED with lies lmao.

Clara Sorrenti said she had a SWAT team sent to her house, a favorite tactic of Kiwi Farms users and other serial harassers. “I was woken up by police officers and saw the assault rifle pointed at me,”
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This was shown to be false by the London police and Keffals back tracked on it lol.

When posters learned that Terryberry, an 18-year-old with learning disabilities, used the internet to make friends, they worked to get her social media accounts shut down while mocking her mental health struggles.
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No mention of the psycho ex that would wipe shit on her back breaking up with her.

Josh Moon, the 30-year-old baby-faced troll king who founded Kiwi Farms a decade ago, lives with his mom in Pensacola, Florida.
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Jersh quit being a NEET and move out.

The users call their victims “lolcows” because their pain can be milked for laughs.
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Say the line Bart!

“You do not have the clout to eradicate a video from the internet and you do not have the legal reach to imprison everyone whose [sic] posted it. If anyone turns over to you the information they’re asking for they’re not only cowards, but they’re fucking idiots,” he wrote in a public response to requests from New Zealand authorities.
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Baste

Martela was driving through Florida already, she told me, so she decided to confront him. “His mom comes to the door, [and when I asked to speak with Joshua,] she said, ‘He’s not here. He’s in the Philippines.’”
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Man it's a good thing brave Martela is still running trans lifelines. Oh wait.
 
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I want to get in front of something going on in this thread, which is an unstated assumption that this article in particular is an egregious example of journalistic manipulation. No, that's just the first half of Gell-Mann amnesia

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
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Meat Target said:
Camel-humping coward doesn't wanna be called out for lying.

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Possible tension point? Null has mentioned in the past that Keffals has to pretend that KF doesn't exist because the grift relies on having taken it down. But here we have a name drop under an article whose thesis is the question of why KF won't die. What's a wiggler to do
 
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They latch on to the stupidest shit, the "kill count," gamergate, Null taking a shit in 2016.
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I have it on good authority that Ali included this because he personally found the idea very arousing. So arousing in fact that he had to stop writing his article several times just to rub one off to the thought of Null pinching a log; that's why it took him a month to write.

My sources are the same as Ali, and he did not reply to me over this statement so that means that it must be true. I can also confirm that Ali considers himself to be a "massive faggot" because Null, the owner of a large website with many subscribers, said something like that once in a stream maybe.
 
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