Approved 2024-07-25 - Stebbins: DMCA via Gimp Slave

[CabbageTheSnackThatSlaps]

Hard to support the guy that cow tipped on his public Gmail account and found out

It was a burner gmail account from what I've been told. Turkey doesn't know his primary email address.

 

[Molag Bal]

In theory, my first instinct would be to say: Yes, intervene and deprive Stebbins of his proxy legal slave. It's a very intuitive choice because as long as Stebbins has a proxy to circumvent his vexatious litigant status with, he will continue send filings against the site in perpetuity.
However, in practise, I am reminded of how drawn-out litigation is, how completely and utterly impotent the US justice system is at achieving justice and how corrupt judges are right now. And based on these three things, my estimate is that suing Stebbins in any form right now would achieve fuck all.

What I wonder about is: How is this even legal? How is Stebbins allowed to compel someone else on a contractual basis to make filings on his behalf specifically to circumvent a legal restriction placed on him? The entire point of giving him vexatious litigant status is that he can't clog the legal system with vexatious filings anymore. If all he has to do to continue, is pay or compel someone else to do it for him, what's the point in using and applying this law in the first place? This makes about as much sense to me as
>robbing a bank yourself is illegal
>paying someone else to rob the bank on your behalf is perfectly fine

As for any arguments around the merit of abolishing the 13th amendment, I am 100% opposed to 'tools of thy enemy' thinking and I think this line of thinking is retarded, impotent and gay. If you can leverage the 13th amendment to achieve something good, you should not shy away from doing it. The best way to incentivise abolishing a law or amendment, is to use it for things its proponents don't want.
Also if we argue on a basis of abolishing the 13th amendment, I think that even in a scenario where slavery is legal, using your slaves to circumvent legal restrictions that courts have placed on you in response to your own past actions, should not fly. A slave owner's legal restrictions should also apply to all his slaves. Either that, or there should be additional law expressly prohibiting him from using his slaves to do that.

My only real and committed recommendation is to keep detailed records on any and all legal fees you incur responding to his frivolous filings. Make sure every single dollar that Turkey man's slave costs you is tallied up to bolster potential litigation with damages.

 

[The Beer Padawan]

I think the dilemma stems from the fact that economically speaking, it may be more efficient to cut this off at the pass rather than wait for a full blown dmca lawsuit a la greer.

 

[AnimeSucksCopeAndSneed]

Whatever decision is made, another one should be made also:

Null, please get your sleep.

 

[murph]

I would rather save ammo for Dong Long Gone than anyone else, including shitlips and stabby.

They seem like side quests.

Aim the war cannons at the true targets. TOTAL. TRANNY. DEATH.

 

[geckogoy]

 

[Captain Dipshit]

It was a burner gmail account from what I've been told. Turkey doesn't know his primary email address.

Anyone else just not believe this mf is a representative of Jarrod? He's definitely Jarrod, right?

 

[Grotesque Bushes]

Whether it's a good target, good way to spend your money, is it just, whether it would be effective, is slavery really bad - all those questions are irrelevant. The 18 month period will be over before the possible litigation is, you can get the same or better outcome for free.

 

[AnimeSucksCopeAndSneed]

I would literally fight in a boxing ring to fundraise for whatever this is.

DEW YEW UNNASTAN MEH NAO???????????????????????????????????????????????? I'M NOT STUTTERING!

 

[Mr. Manchester]

I'll clarify my previous question of, "How much money we talking?"

If it's some negligible amount like 2 grand? Sure. I feel like a livestream or something can replenish that.
If it's a sizable dent that will cause problems later and piss off people that donated to stop blockheaded snake fetishists? Absolutely not.

 

[AnimeSucksCopeAndSneed]

I would literally fight in a boxing ring to fundraise for whatever this is.

DEW YEW UNNASTAN MEH NAO???????????????????????????????????????????????? I'M NOT STUTTERING!

Somebody fucking say something in reply to this. I mean it.

 

[Haramburger]

I want to hear @Haramburger's take on this.

There's more con bulletpoints than pros. BUUUUT the pros are really good and it should be noted that they aren't weighted equally, the pros outweigh the cons. HOWWWWWEVERRRRRR the funds do have special rules on how they're to be used. DESPIIIITE that it's obvious that they can be used this way, assuming enough donations agree that that's the plan. UNFORRRRTUNATELY voting is gay, shame on anyone who did that, you knew better.

 

[AnimeSucksCopeAndSneed]

There's more con bulletpoints than pros. BUUUUT the pros are really good and it should be noted that they aren't weighted equally, the pros outweigh the cons. HOWWWWWEVERRRRRR the funds do have special rules on how they're to be used. DESPIIIITE that it's obvious that they can be used this way, assuming enough donations agree that that's the plan. UNFORRRRTUNATELY voting is gay, shame on anyone who did that, you knew better.

Well, that was before I said I would box.

Somebody somewhere organize something. Preferably someone who definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely has no idea what the Kiwifarms is.

 

[AnOminous]

What I wonder about is: How is this even legal? How is Stebbins allowed to compel someone else on a contractual basis to make filings on his behalf specifically to circumvent a legal restriction placed on him?

The dude would be acting as his agent and be on the hook for it as well as Stabby. It's illegal for both Stabby and his enslaved gimp to do illegal things on his behalf.

 

[Haramburger]

Sorry I had pinball fevah

 

[TV's Adam West]

Honestly fuck both of these guys, I'd rather you embezzle the money than give it to this retard.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

I say intervene if, and only if, this means we would be forced to censor any genuine commentary on the wereturkey, present or future.

 

[Cheese Balls]

Personally, I vote no, because as Null said himself, I think it's very stupid to get involved in another lawsuit if it's not absolutely necessary for the forum. Shit can spiral out of control quickly.

Acerthorn is a pathetic retard and deserves to be humiliated in court, but there's likely far bigger threats to KF in the future.

But, if Josh or Hardin thinks it's absolutely the right move to intervene, then let's do it.

 

[Spunt]

I vote nah. Whilst the case has some merit, there is only so much in the legal fund and no doubt something will come up that poses an existential threat to the site. It would be really fucking stupid if we intervened in some sped's failure to law properly then get fucked into the ground because we can't afford to defend ourselves directly. Keep the powder dry.

 

[Free Dick Pills]

Nigga wasn't this supposed to be a legal defense fund??? Or am I suffering from the mandela effect?

What happened to "don't touch the p.oop / don't tip the cow"?

The obvious answer here (according to your own set of principles) is a resounding NO!