2025-03-26 - OFCOM: "Advisory Letter: illegal content risk assessments - your duties under the Online Safety Act 2023"

[Fireman Sam]

What "ties" does kiwifarms have to the UK, genuine question?
If it is because some users are from UK then every single website in the world has to complete that gay ass form

Think about it like this.
All the British users that are worth any salt will already know how to use a reliable VPN and be able to access the website in the case that it gets blocked due to the refusal to comply to these measures.

Kiwifarms itself has no ties to the UK, the same as any website that is not hosted in the UK... Ergo, Null's response is completely valid.
A website based in the UK that does not comply to these new measures may risk fines or otherwise lose the ability to host in the UK.
And if a site not hosted in the UK decides to not comply, I guess the response is to block access to UK users or try to fine the website itself (harder to do). But that's just a theory based on what I know, I could be wrong.

In the event that this site is blocked in the UK, it doesn't matter if British users use a VPN as it's perfectly within the law to do so...
So unless there's a law that states that I as a UK resident am forbidden to access www.kiwifarms.st or use a VPN, then I see no problem here.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

The irony of Blighty sending a letter like this to an entity called 1776 Solutions LLC is pure gold.

 

[Sabrina]

I've thought about moving to the US, to the rolling forests and endless mountains, but not just yet.

I appreciate the candidness and it's sound advice. At the moment, I think we are OK but if Null decides to give the UK government details of Brit posters because he thinks it will be funny to watch all Brits suffer, then I want him to say it now.
Right now, the UK can only prosecute on information that webmasters hand over.

Why would you even think that. If you're not familiar with the Christchurch incident, NZ asked for IP addresses of everyone who posted in the thread and Null literally told them no one cares about their shithole country

 

[Ace888Ace]

Ive done a risk assesment, anglog, and its infact YOU who owes ME 18 million dollas for being GAY NIGGERS If you wanna know the truth about it

You know, a lot of the rhetoric makes sense when you realize buggery was a crime punishable by transportation to the colonies, once upon a time

Makes you think, no?

 

[Plum Smuggler]

I know just who Yoo to call.

 

[ZipDisk]

Eighteen million pounds? What happened to "small thousands"?

Also incredibly lazy to try to farm out the homework to Null. "You have to make an assessment" "Suckem your assessment"

I would have liked to see something about the sun having set on their empire, but it is probably best to keep the response brief.

Unrelated, are we still clutching pearls about the use of doxing as a term.

Tom Leykis called it "Naming names" and managed to get several lawsuits dismissed on that framing. He defended it by saying he is not a journalist.
One old faggot had to pay Leykis twenty-five thousand dollars in legal fees after he tried to Lawfare Leykis.

 

[BeetleBug242]

I see nothing but red, these people deserve all their doom

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

Don't care, mate. Fix your fucking shithole of an island first.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

God, I was hoping Jersh would get something in the mail regarding the new UK legislation and then tell them to go fuck themselves. I was not let down. Thanks, Josh! I needed cheering up today.

 

[The Cheese Aisle]

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How exactly does KF have "links to the UK"? Is the website being accessible from the UK enough to be considered "linked"?

I would love for the UK to start trying to sue random US businesses and get bitchslapped. 54th State arc.

 

[Major]

You'd think it would have examples of such "illegal content".

In inglind any form of offensive communication in any context is illegal. Communications act 2003. So everything is illegal unless you're a politician or a broadcaster

 

[Elderly Homosexual Negro]

E's a roight bloomin lil buggar that Joshua Conner Moon that e is!

 

[Schizneed]

it's kind of cute that the British think they have power.

 

[4ChanPartyVan]

Why would you even think that. If you're not familiar with the Christchurch incident, NZ asked for IP addresses of everyone who posted in the thread and Null literally told them no one cares about their shithole country

Reposting this because I love the way Dear Feeder said it:

Is this a joke? I'm not turning over information about my users. The person responsible for posting the video and manifesto PDF is myself.

I feel real bad for you guys, you've got a quiet nation and now this attack is going to be the first thing people think of for the next 10 years when they hear the name New Zealand, but you can't do this. Tell your superiors they're going to make the entire country and its government look like clowns by trying to censor the Internet. You're a small, irrelevant island nation barely more recognizable than any other nameless pacific sovereignty. You do not have the clout to eradicate a video from the Internet and you do not have the legal reach to imprison everyone whose posted it. If anyone turns over to you the information they're asking for they're not only cowards, but they're fucking idiots.

My name is Joshua Moon, I'm a US Citizen living overseas. My company is contained within a Florida company. If you need an address to send physical documents to this works.

Lolcow LLC
913 Beal Pkwy NW
Suite A-1017
Fort Walton Beach, FL 32547

If you're wondering, no. Kiwi Farms has nothing to do with New Zealand. Our name is a pointed jab at some of the mushmouthed autistic people we make fun of. Absolutely nothing about our community is NZ oriented.

And I don't give a single solitary fuck what section 50 of your faggot law say about sharing your email. Fuck you and fuck your shithole country.

 

[Molag Bal]

Dear @Null , a reminder of how many 'countering misinformation' style papers written by LFJ-likes you've read at this point.
You know full well that if you cover this on MATI, at least 4 different privately funded 'research groups' as well as OfCom, the British metro police and the German hasspostings division, will each force at least one person on their payroll to watch and listen to every word you say and make a report on it to be used by some 'academic' think tank. Anything you say, including stuff like that OfCom and the british government are tranny enabling faggots that suck muslim cock, or that Muhammed was a pedophile who raped a 9 year old girl, they need to listen to all of it and at least paraphrase it in a document read by their peers.

Please do.

 

[obliviousbeard]

Does this also mean Lolcow LLC isn't ISO 27001 certified organization?

 

[Haramburger]

I know, and everyone on this site knows that you hate the Brits, but I want to know, if push comes to shove, will you throw us under the bus or will you give us fair warning to clear off of the site before you do?

And I believe the intelligence agencies of Britain are on this site, regularly, collecting data on users. I can give you a few names if you want?

These questions have already been answered elsewhere on the site, from crises more significant than this. Part of the community expectations is getting up to speed with just a little research on your part in regards to these matters. You can certainly ask already answered questions, but don't be flustered when you get snark back.

 

[Necrosan]

Are they just sending these to literally every website regardless if the company is based in the UK or does someone in the office just have a hate boner for the Farms?

I'm pretty sure they have sent it to others because there is a clause that says "If this doesn't apply to you, then ignore", I wouldn't be surprised if they do it because it makes them feel like they matter or that they hold any power.

All they are going to do is read his response in the next zoom meeting and send it to someone else who they think might be able to do something about it.

 

[Breadbassket]

This part of the email stuck out to quite a lot of users here.




Here is what the fine print on the matter ways.

“Regulated service”, “Part 3 service” etc

(1)This section applies for the purposes of this Act.

(2)A user-to-user service is a “regulated user-to-user service”, and a search service is a “regulated search service”, if the service—

(a)has links with the United Kingdom (see subsections (5) and (6)), and

(b)is not—

(i)a service of a description that is exempt as provided for by Schedule 1, or

(ii)a service of a kind described in Schedule 2 (services combining user-generated content or search content not regulated by this Act with pornographic content that is regulated).

(3)“Part 3 service” means a regulated user-to-user service or a regulated search service.

(4)“Regulated service” means—

(a)a regulated user-to-user service,

(b)a regulated search service, or

(c)an internet service, other than a regulated user-to-user service or a regulated search service, that is within section 80(2) (including a service of a kind described in Schedule 2).

(5)For the purposes of subsection (2), a user-to-user service or a search service “has links with the United Kingdom” if—

(a)the service has a significant number of United Kingdom users, or

(b)United Kingdom users form one of the target markets for the service (or the only target market).

(6)For the purposes of subsection (2), a user-to-user service or a search service also “has links with the United Kingdom” if—

(a)the service is capable of being used in the United Kingdom by individuals, and

(b)there are reasonable grounds to believe that there is a material risk of significant harm to individuals in the United Kingdom presented by—

(i)in the case of a user-to-user service, user-generated content present on the service or (if the service includes a search engine) search content of the service;

(ii)in the case of a search service, search content of the service.

(7)A regulated user-to-user service that includes a public search engine is referred to in this Act as a “combined service”.

“Public search engine” means a search engine other than one in relation to which the conditions in paragraph 7(2) of Schedule 1 (internal business service conditions) are met.

( 8 ) In this section—

“search content” has the same meaning as in Part 3 (see section 57);

“user-generated content” has the meaning given by section 55 (see subsections (3) and (4) of that section).

So by the definition of this legislation Kiwi Farms to my understanding would have "links" to the UK by having a significant number of United Kingdom users or because the service is capable of being used in the United Kingdom by individuals and there are reasonable grounds to believe that there is a material risk of significant harm to individuals in the United Kingdom.

 

[Random Internet Person]

In regards to that response, I think George would be proud. And Ben would fuck all their wives and NTR the men because of course he would.