2025 Israel vs Iran War

Mate, there's an Israeli flag in my PFP. I am an Israeli shill. I never meant to imply that Iran is factually not trying to develop nuclear weapons. In fact, I think the exact opposite.

If that's the case for you then my bad. I don't pay attention to avatars, and especially on this site an israeli flag avatar is 99% of the time ironic anyway. I'm just tired of seeing people dredge up the same quote and spin it to try and trick people into thinking Iran is sacrificing its economy to produce nuclear weapons grade uranium as some innocent autistic hobby.
 
Why would it involve anything more than airstrikes? think a bit.
Because we have a retarded love affair with regime change? Because we will want to 'secure' territory in the area like we currently are in Syria? Because we want yet another sandbox play area to join the places we have in Iraq and Syria?

You're thinking as if this is going to be a limited one time deal. I'm thinking that even if Trump says he doesn't want to occupy parts of Iran, that we're still occupying parts of Syria and Iraq, and that his control over the military complex is not such that we won't end up in there. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic about it, but all I see this is as is another boondoggle. Yeah, it's great for Israel. I'm not Israeli. I don't care. And even if we don't put guys in Iran, we're still playing this game where we pretend we're not provoking strikes on the people we have in the rest of the Middle East.
 
Oy vey, the abhorrent spambot seems to be malfunctioning. Don't notice what is happening, that is antisemitism.
Don't worry, the BBC demoralization spam for you gentiles will be operating again shortly. No need for discussions, just unconditional support for Zionism.
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Amit Segal, Channel 12: In both open and covert Israeli intelligence, the Islamic Republic is increasingly just called “Iran” — even Iranian TV changed its name from “Islamic Republic of Iran TV” to simply “Islamic Republic TV of Iran”; the terminology has shifted over the past three days.​


Audience message: All three mobile operators, Irancell and Wright were cut off in Shiraz
 
They universally support this move
Are there any political groups or parties in Israel who, prior to these strikes taking place (and not Arab-affiliated) who espoused any "stop the conflict via diplomacy"-type rhetoric? They would have to support the strikes now since the country has been hit back so saying "we should stop hitting them" would be political suicide. In my country near a decade back, Jeremy Corbyn's political campaign was hit hard by refusing to simply say "yes" to using nuclear weapons if Britain was ever hit with one (a frankly bizarre position to remain adamant on).
You made the claim that 48/56/67 was paid for by America. Soy pointed out that isn't correct and you double down by insisting that French/British funding is somehow American funding.

Very interesting note on the Suez Crisis, which set a precedent that might see repeating once again.
Timeline of Suez Crisis:
Under the Protocol of Sèvres, the following was agreed to:
29 October: Israel to invade the Sinai.
30 October: Anglo-French ultimatum to demand both sides withdraw from the canal zone.
31 October: Britain and France begin Revise*
*(to attack Egypt)
>Israel launches rockets at Iran
>America tells both sides to stop
>America subsequently starts bombing Iran (Because it had been decided prior to the bombing ever taking place)
 

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Amit Segal, Channel 12: In both open and covert Israeli intelligence, the Islamic Republic is increasingly just called “Iran” — even Iranian TV changed its name from “Islamic Republic of Iran TV” to simply “Islamic Republic TV of Iran”; the terminology has shifted over the past three days.​


Audience message: All three mobile operators, Irancell and Wright were cut off in Shiraz
You should be very careful in pushing regime change, look at how poorly it's gone for the US for the last 24 years.

The best you could hope for is if there's a Velvet Revolution or collapse of the Eastern Bloc, but that causes problems of its own and I doubt that's how Iran will end up if the Islamic Republic falls.
 
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Oy vey, the abhorrent spambot seems to be malfunctioning. Don't notice what is happening, that is antisemitism.
Don't worry, the BBC demoralization spam for you gentiles will be operating again shortly. No need for discussions, just unconditional support for Zionism.
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Hezbollah is not subject to the governance of Lebanon
They are quite literally part of the Government
massacring a rave festival compromised of civilians but its not antisemitic
Except this is not what happened. People fleeing the music festival were caught in the cross fire between IDF and Hamas forces heading towards Re'im Military base. Most of the cars and destruction we see, was quite literally clearly the result, of IDF Hannibal doctrine. Hamas literally had no way of knowing about the festival, it was changed last moment and the conspiracy even in Israel is that this was done on purpose to put them in danger by the Israeli Government who knew of the coming attacks and fucking hate Psytrance wooks. Another part leading to this being the case, is that IDF roadblocks, literally funneled Hamas forces trying to reach Re'im and , and fleeing partygoers, right into eachother on the roads.
Also on October 8th, Uniformed Hamas soldiers, mostly did not go after civilians directly. They headed towards military targets, we know this because we literally have their plans were for targeting military targets and militarized kibbutz. It was other Jihadi groups that came afterwards that did most of the attacks on civilians.
Even then, lets be honest, by ISRAELS OWN STANDARDS. Very few Civilians were actually targeted by Hamas on October 7th, considering by Israeli standards, every boy above 12, and everyone with military links, is a legitimate target and most Israeli adults are IDF adjacent and pretty much everywhere Hamas attacked including the festival grounds, had IDF units or were linked to the IDF. If several hundred Palestinian children in a School are a worth while cost for one Hamas operative, then surely Israel can expect the same logic back right?
Again, I don't agree with the attack on the festival goers, or even the attacks on people in general, but Israel operates in the exact same way, and cries foul when it's done back to them.
This is just one example of Israel trying to kill kids for no fucking reason, in the exact same style executions we saw on October 7th
A small girl, upon working in the family fields, Wadha watched Israeli
soldiers blindfold her father, and then heard him shot behind some bushes. “I
began to cry,” she told Grossman,
“The soldiers who had stayed with me asked me: Who is that man to
you? I said: ‘He is my father.’ They said: ‘Go to the garden down there,
and you’ll see that he is harvesting lettuce and eggplant.’ When I was
some distance from them, I glanced back and I saw one of the soldiers
aiming his rifle at me. I was frightened and bent over. His bullet hit my
neck and came out the other side.”
This is just one story of hundreds that occur every year.
nothing in comparison to those actors and they committed atrocities against the syrians they were "protecting"
Sure, not in comparison to the PYD. But Hezbollah were direct allies of the PYD/SDF and literally fought side by side with them in numerous battles. https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2016/09/12/friend-or-foes-ypg-regime/

Also everyone was comitting atrocities against Syrians, even the YPG. But I'll take Hez and the YPG over fucking Al Nusra. It's only a matter of time before Syria is funelling Uyghurs to China to mass murder civilians on behalf of the CIA, while cells of Al Nusra trained psychopaths slip back in to the West, and start driving cars into Christmas markets again.
 
I literally only asked it how pagers function. Here's another source from a third party site:


Pagers can only connect to one network. This limitation can cause workflow gaps and the businesses to spend more.

Nigger come on. You're outsourcing to jeets for forum clout now?

Saar, I am very knowledgeable Techjury blogger. Specialising in pagers. Please to be leaving good review on Fiverr.

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If you want to ask an LLM about pagers. Ask them about dual band ones. They've been around for a while. Also, don't trust LLMs. Most of their answers are weighted towards confirmation bias anyway. Asking an LLM anything is like asking a used car salesman questions about the car you're buying. They might be knowledgeable, but they're still telling you what you want to hear.
 
In my country near a decade back, Jeremy Corbyn's political campaign was hit hard by refusing to simply say "yes" to using nuclear weapons if Britain was ever hit with one (a frankly bizarre position to remain adamant on).
A commie Fifth Column holdover from the Cold War. The nuclear disarmament movement was promoted in the West to defang NATO and allow the Warsaw Pact to do as they please.
 
Are there any political groups or parties in Israel who, prior to these strikes taking place (and not Arab-affiliated) who espoused any "stop the conflict via diplomacy"-type rhetoric? They would have to support the strikes now since the country has been hit back so saying "we should stop hitting them" would be political suicide
I'm running off very little sleep, I just remembered Hadash condemned it

Far-left parties have taken a sharply critical stance. Hadash and the Communist Party of Israel (Maki) issued a joint statement opposing the Israeli attack outright.

"Hadash and Maki oppose the large-scale Israeli attack on Iran… We call for stopping what today appears to be the start of a dangerous war, which could involve the entire Middle East," they wrote.

They framed the action as aggressive government overreach that could engulf the region.

They remain the sole Jewish-led political grouping in the Knesset to openly reject the campaign. Other left-leaning parties like Meretz have stayed silent, either cautious or implicitly supportive.

Except this is not what happened. People fleeing the music festival were caught in the cross fire between IDF and Hamas forces heading towards Re'im Military base. Most of the cars and destruction we see, was quite literally clearly the result, of IDF Hannibal doctrine
the time of the rave massacre was at 6 AM, IDF didn't start the alleged Hannibal until 11 AM. Hamas filmed themselves shooting civilians and uploaded it to telegram

Nigger come on. You're outsourcing to jeets for forum clout now?
bitch im establishing a well known fact that the gorilla nigger could have looked up himself.

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They are quite literally part of the Government
They are but they’ve refused to disarm and become merely a part of civil society, and then have caused massive violence politically and ethnically to the rest of Lebanon. I don’t know why the argument is being put forward that they’re liked by anyone but militant portions of the Shia population of Lebanon. Even on cucked places like the Lebanon subreddit, it’s openly and repeatedly commented how hated they are in large parts of the country and the diaspora.
 
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The Israeli military estimates it will achieve its objectives against Iran's nuclear program within a week or two.

Israel set out on the operation in Iran with the objective of removing the "existential threat" of the Iranian nuclear program and ballistic missile capabilities.

The IDF has so far bombed two Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities, Natanz and Isfahan, and caused significant damage to both. It has also killed at least nine key nuclear scientists who were working on a bomb, and struck several other facilities supporting Iran's nuclear program, including offices and command centers.

The military has so far denied striking the underground Fordo nuclear facility, but says it is in its " bank of targets." Defense Minister Israel Katz said earlier that Fordo is "an issue that will certainly be addressed."

The IDF also says that some 40% of Iran's ballistic missile launchers, or some 200, have been destroyed or neutralized so far amid the operation. This has also apparently played a role in limiting Iran's missile fire on Israel in the past two days.

In terms of Iran's military, the IDF says it has killed dozens of commanders, including the vast majority of the top leadership of the IRGC and the Iranian Armed Forces. Military officials say that it has killed three times more Iranian commanders than it had initially anticipated when planning the operation.

The operation in Iran was planned months in advance, with military officials saying that the most challenging part was cracking the issue of Iran's air defenses. Israel has since obtained air supremacy over western Iran and Tehran.

 
Don't worry, he's still got Tasnim to tell him that the images of Hermes drones over Iran are fake, but that Iran has also shot down 28 drones in the last hour, including a Hermes.
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They had to shoot down those drones because they had intel on where the wreckage from the dozen F-35s they shot down were. They also filmed the gang raping of the Israeli F-35 pilot they captured.

Axis of Resistance accounts celebrating drones being shot down was always cringe. That's what drones are designed for, to be shot down. They're cheap and easy to replace. Just because you can shoot down a slow moving drone with WWII-era AA guns doesn't mean you're a military threat.
 
I'm running off very little sleep, I just remembered Hadash condemned it

Far-left parties have taken a sharply critical stance. Hadash and the Communist Party of Israel (Maki) issued a joint statement opposing the Israeli attack outright.

"Hadash and Maki oppose the large-scale Israeli attack on Iran… We call for stopping what today appears to be the start of a dangerous war, which could involve the entire Middle East," they wrote.

They framed the action as aggressive government overreach that could engulf the region.

They remain the sole Jewish-led political grouping in the Knesset to openly reject the campaign. Other left-leaning parties like Meretz have stayed silent, either cautious or implicitly supportive.


the time of the rave massacre was at 6 AM, IDF didn't start the alleged Hannibal until 11 AM. Hamas filmed themselves shooting civilians and uploaded it to telegram


bitch im establishing a well known fact that the gorilla nigger could have looked up himself.

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