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America/Europe as a whole > Iranian = IsraelThis thread is so absurdly pro-Israel, where even the "neutral" people are like "I have no skin in this game (foreskin lol!) but also I hope the jews win decisively" that I can't trust anything I'm reading here.
I've shat on the Jewish people as a whole (overt nepotists, American Jews have split loyalties for a state they don't even live in), and justified Operation Ajax (Iranians were/are retards) alongside reducing the Islamic faith to being a near carbon copy of Judaism. I've only been pushed into defending Israel by happenstance since, if I was going to be on the side opposing Israel due to the Jewish tendency to value their own rather support their host nation, I'd rather it not be so-filled with schizophrenics. The same people who rightfully shit on the Jews for putting Israel and their own faith over their host state, will in the same breath give them near-omnipotence in their capabilities that it comes off like reverse psychology. Isn't it enough to regard them as being like parasites, same as any other immigrant who values their own group over the group that has otherwise benefited them so much?
Before I'm accused of being one: No, the Jews were not entitled to the state. They were granted it on the pity and generosity of the West, and used blatant emotional manipulation (UN committee meeting visiting Holocaust camps) and violence (insurgencies after WW2 - you're welcome, by the way) to ensure they got it, something they were only able to get away with thanks to their well-armed paramilitaries, the small, shitty armies of the surrounding Arab states and the West's exhaustion after having fought WW2. They're not exceptional, they're like any other country given independence by their colonial masters, that's it. American Jews who keep AIPAC afloat are displaying greater loyalty to a state they don't reside in than their own through lobbying in the interests of another state, and their sheer nepotism of American Jews being dismissed as an antisemitic conspiracy theory is a blatant tactic to draw attention away from it. But some onus is also on the American politician who shamelessly sells themselves to AIPAC for said donations as well.
The people living in Israel are entitled to defend themselves, same as any other person/culture/ethnicity, but that goes same for Iran; this should not draw America in at all by nature of it being offensive and not defensive, nuke or no. Iran would not have benevolent intentions with possessing nuclear weapons but they would also likely not employ it for the same reason the NORK, Pakistan, India don't whenever they espouse their whatever rhetoric against a hostile power (the Saudis are very probably next to begin developing one). Iran are not a friendly state to America, but they also have zero friends outside of Pakistan and maybe Russia (who was quick to abandon them). The government probably has to rely on hard rhetoric to keep the people cowed enough to remain compliant, but the instant the people don't believe there's a threat from another power, the Iranian government's legitimacy is basically kaput, so there's an argument to be made that Israel's strikes may have contributed to strengthening the position of the Ayatollah. In the same breath, these strikes against their leadership may cause so much discord that the regime will forced to distribute more power to the civilian government, who knows.