2025 Israel vs Iran War

This thread is so absurdly pro-Israel, where even the "neutral" people are like "I have no skin in this game (foreskin lol!) but also I hope the jews win decisively" that I can't trust anything I'm reading here.
America/Europe as a whole > Iranian = Israel

I've shat on the Jewish people as a whole (overt nepotists, American Jews have split loyalties for a state they don't even live in), and justified Operation Ajax (Iranians were/are retards) alongside reducing the Islamic faith to being a near carbon copy of Judaism. I've only been pushed into defending Israel by happenstance since, if I was going to be on the side opposing Israel due to the Jewish tendency to value their own rather support their host nation, I'd rather it not be so-filled with schizophrenics. The same people who rightfully shit on the Jews for putting Israel and their own faith over their host state, will in the same breath give them near-omnipotence in their capabilities that it comes off like reverse psychology. Isn't it enough to regard them as being like parasites, same as any other immigrant who values their own group over the group that has otherwise benefited them so much?

Before I'm accused of being one: No, the Jews were not entitled to the state. They were granted it on the pity and generosity of the West, and used blatant emotional manipulation (UN committee meeting visiting Holocaust camps) and violence (insurgencies after WW2 - you're welcome, by the way) to ensure they got it, something they were only able to get away with thanks to their well-armed paramilitaries, the small, shitty armies of the surrounding Arab states and the West's exhaustion after having fought WW2. They're not exceptional, they're like any other country given independence by their colonial masters, that's it. American Jews who keep AIPAC afloat are displaying greater loyalty to a state they don't reside in than their own through lobbying in the interests of another state, and their sheer nepotism of American Jews being dismissed as an antisemitic conspiracy theory is a blatant tactic to draw attention away from it. But some onus is also on the American politician who shamelessly sells themselves to AIPAC for said donations as well.

The people living in Israel are entitled to defend themselves, same as any other person/culture/ethnicity, but that goes same for Iran; this should not draw America in at all by nature of it being offensive and not defensive, nuke or no. Iran would not have benevolent intentions with possessing nuclear weapons but they would also likely not employ it for the same reason the NORK, Pakistan, India don't whenever they espouse their whatever rhetoric against a hostile power (the Saudis are very probably next to begin developing one). Iran are not a friendly state to America, but they also have zero friends outside of Pakistan and maybe Russia (who was quick to abandon them). The government probably has to rely on hard rhetoric to keep the people cowed enough to remain compliant, but the instant the people don't believe there's a threat from another power, the Iranian government's legitimacy is basically kaput, so there's an argument to be made that Israel's strikes may have contributed to strengthening the position of the Ayatollah. In the same breath, these strikes against their leadership may cause so much discord that the regime will forced to distribute more power to the civilian government, who knows.
 
China? Where it's the same guy, the same party, and you can reasonably predict how it will behave? Who won't threaten to go to war with you if they don't get what they want? Sounds like a safer option. If the US wants to survive, it has to be a better option than its competitors, and that's going away thanks to the incompetent Biden regime, and the idiotic Trump regime.
The party in China is very, very, very far from being a stable monolith, reliable, or trustworthy in agreements. If you listen to the little racist voices in your head like I do you'll see that what you're saying is insane. Trust the chinks, their nature is more trustworthy, their descriptions of themselves and their politics are accurate. Do you hear yourself?

Xi's reign has alternated between incompetent and idiotic, varying mostly with the smog levels in Beijing. He's tanked the economy, all growth has been fake for years, there is a deflationary spiral underway as state lending is propping up industries that have been crushed by tariffs. The property bubble collapsed with Evergrande's implosion, and it only happened because of Xi's retarded lockdown policy. What happened to Shanghai in 2022 should have been grounds for nuking Beijing. The property bubble collapse and with it the exposure of the massive network of local bonds and insane leveraging of provincial, municipal, district, subdistrict, housing block governments and businesses makes me think the China doomers aren't all schizos. They're headed for hard times because of mismanagement at a macro level by that fat retard and his cabal of even more retarded cronies. The handling of Evergrande and the state's failure to make buyers whole was a level of malfeasance that makes the S&L scandals and subprime mortgage lending look decent. Millions of the middle class watched as their dreams and life savings evaporated in one of history's biggest bubbles popping, and there is no recovery from "the thing we counted on for wealth accumulation is now gone." Their stock markets and regulators aren't up to the task of being an engine for middle class wealth creation and investment, and the state is ideologically against sophisticated, free capital markets.

Read about Xi's accession to power! The party is quite dynamic, it changes ideology and membership regularly. Each new politburo has gotten older and more close to being politically loyal only to Xi's retard faction. A party with 0 ideas, nationalist bluster, and a psychotic love of gerontocracy is not stable, safe, or reliable in any way. Literally everyone who studies European history ought to know how this kind of aristocratic bureaucratic machine ends up--it implodes under the weight of an aging, increasingly retarded and uncreative population with a youth cohort that would love to collectively commit suicide instead of continuing to be Chinese.

The Fall of the House of Bo is a good one, about the Bo Xilai incident in 2012 when after his wife was credibly accused of personally poisoning a British spy to death in Hong Kong, Bo apparently mobilized the Chinese equivalent of a national guard and had to be removed in a purge that reorganized Sichuan province and separated Chongqing from Sichuan to make it a less potent power base for a party member wanting to move against central authority.
 
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So many people outed themselves as kikes or kike puppets it's genuinely sad to see.
I am neither, but I guess I will wear the badge of honorary kike proudly then.

I don't have anything to say other than stop being a nigger and shitting up the thread. There's an entire separate "I hate da joooos" thread, why not use it.
 
This thread is so absurdly pro-Israel, where even the "neutral" people are like "I have no skin in this game (foreskin lol!) but also I hope the jews win decisively" that I can't trust anything I'm reading here.
The neutrals are lurking and postmarking posts that are footage and important updates (literally me).
 
I am neither, but I guess I will wear the badge of honorary kike proudly then.

I don't have anything to say other than stop being a nigger and shitting up the thread. There's an entire separate "I hate da joooos" thread, why not use it.
Impossible.
Faggots need to go into every thread and complain about “ze juden” and act like everyone are JiDF when they are getting negarated.
 
A Trump-endorsed Congressman who won Florida's 6th District.
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He has received around $402,553 from Israeli lobbying groups.
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I guess he bought some $TRUMP coin, huh

It's so crazy to me that being endorsed by AIPAC, an explicitly foreign-backed org, is some kind of flex. I thought Jews mainly vote for Dems? Or does the endorsement help with the Republican Bible-thumpers
 
Personally I find it irritating as someone who takes a more practical and historic perspective. Like I just want to know wtf is going on, is that so much to ask? Instead it's none stop moral grandstanding and outright bullshit. You can't even ask questions without a flood of this horseshit.
Understanding jews is one of the most treacherous fields of bullshit in the known universe. It's moral grandstanding and outright bullshit all the way down because "the jews" as a collective are really like four different ethnic groups that existed for like 1500 years after the second temple on completely different continents. the eastern european jews came up with this bizarre school of orthodox thought when the industrial revolution happened (the chabad movement) and it opened up a practical goal of rounding up global jews to create a secular jewish nation to support a core of dilligent orthodox supporters. i don't think those are particularly inflamatory statements but it has led to an obvious ideology bubble where the people with power think they speak for a collective that doesn't really exist (but woe is you if you don't adhere to it)

israel is also, like, literally the biblically prophecized promised land. There's some pretty strong emotions when it comes to people's religious identity. especially, well, jews of all people. Sure you can look at this through a completely secular lens but there's basically no way to create a hollistic view of the jewish identity that includes the historical jewish people and includes the modern nation of israel without sacrificing some aspect of their identity to either the religious side or the secular side.

this is why they flip flop between things so much, it's because they legitimately do not know what side to take themselves
 
This thread is so absurdly pro-Israel, where even the "neutral" people are like "I have no skin in this game (foreskin lol!) but also I hope the jews win decisively" that I can't trust anything I'm reading here.
It's not exactly a pro-Israel position to understand how bad it would be for fundamentalist end-timer muslim clerics to possess nuclear weapons. If US participation is limited to mop-up duty destroying whatever might be 15 stories below ground then I don't have a problem with it. It's feeling more and more like Iran's current regime is on the way out without an invasion anyway.
 
It also doesn't help that - to me anyway - it's actually kind of shocking how bad Iran are at this. I get surprise sneak attacks are surprising and sneaky and all that; but they have been dominated so far in a way that's absurd. If they expected a great war upon Israel, why is their military this bad? Why haven't they actually been preparing for a great war? If it was all talk and they knew it, why the hell were they still developing nukes, knowing full well the Israelis would eventually get twitchy and blast them to hell?
Because they are religious zealots. This is no different from the Boxers believing magic kung-fu would defeat machine guns. All effort that could have gone to building and preparing a proper military went to prayer time.
 
Also, does any war autist know which system Israel uses to down these 20k Shahed drones? How much does one of these missiles cost?
Likely more expensive than whatever the Ukes have. You'd think they'd at least covertly liaise with the Ukrainians after their experience of having to defend against Iranian drones on a budget without an Iron Dome, at least to work on defense planning without ticking off their Russian-Israeli voters, but apparently not.

Perhaps it's a combination of fear of the Russian bogeyman, and more likely, hubris.
 
Which makes the US even less attractive of a strategic diplomatic, and economic partner. The volatile and unpredictable nature of American elections puts all deals into question. Will the next administration honor it? Let alone Trump where you don't know if he will honor agreements he himself made.

China? Where it's the same guy, the same party, and you can reasonably predict how it will behave? Who won't threaten to go to war with you if they don't get what they want? Sounds like a safer option. If the US wants to survive, it has to be a better option than its competitors, and that's going away thanks to the incompetent Biden regime, and the idiotic Trump regime.
Covid? There’s a reason a lot of businesses left because they’re becoming more communist and because of what they did during covid.
It's not that many of us are pro-Israel, look at my username and the amount of posts that would make the ADL shit their pants, it's that we're dunking on the incompetence of Iran after years of them declaring they could wipe the Zionist Entity off the face of the Earth. If Iran was wrecking Israel's shit then we'd be dunking on Israel even harder. And the cope from the Axis of Resistance twitter and Telegram posters is pure fucking kino.
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Iran has embarrassed itself on the global stage after talking mad shit for years.
An Israeli analyst published a graph showing the decreasing number of missiles Iran has been able to launch in each wave over the past five days:
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Honestly the Jews got it handled we shouldn’t have to drop bombs on iran. If nukes are such a threat Israel should just use their nukes on the last facility.
 
Pay close attention to le stickers you get for pointing this out. Expect a trashcan or a tophat from the faggot shill with a jojo avatar and the retard with a deformed Rekieta picture who literally sits here 20 hours a day, not posting a damn thing but negrating EVERY SINGLE POST criticizing jews even slightly. The thing below might as well be a sock - no posts, all stickers.
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So many people outed themselves as kikes or kike puppets it's genuinely sad to see.
Jews are terrible sub humans. The holocaust didnt happen but I wish it did.

That being said Israel is going to win this conflict due to sheer difference in technology involved between the sides. Iran getting btfo is a good thing that I am glad of.
 
Iran are bad at running internet propaganda.
To us, maybe, but in the muslim world the standards are incredibly low. If they're not cutting promos on one another they're making videos that look like they're recruiting for a CoD clan in the 00s.

All you need to do to cut a promo in the Arab world is to show a few guys doing basic boot camp exercises and show a missile launch while a nasheed plays over it, then fade to black with a verse from the Koran. Pallywood upped the game last year by using the Battlefield triangles, but thats it. Thats your template.

That is the extent of their propaganda. I won't lie, some of those nasheeds are bangers, but as far as the rest of it goes they're about 20 years behind the curve. That being said, look at the audience they're made for. They're not quite as retarded as the average Hollywood movie audience, but they're not a million miles away. Their movie theatres are probably a lot quieter though.
 
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