RESET THE CLOCK 4/23/2016 FB - Phil put on invol psyche hold for threatening to commit suicide

I don't think he was in a psych hospital. Not because I find it unlikely someone would actually throw him in there. I think it's unlikely because he last posted just 3 days before this one. I don't think any psych hospital is going to release him after just 3 days. If he was actually taken to a hospital for OD, whether it was an intentional or not, they would have kept him there until, at very least, they could set him up with some kind of support services and that shit's gonna take longer than 3 days. Not to mention, you have to convince the doctors that you won't be a threat to others or yourself when you leave and I can think of a dozen ways, just looking at his selfies, that I would be firmly convinced Phil is a severe threat to others and to himself.
5150 holds are 72 hours.

Phil is really a coward so he probably shut the fuck up looked weird and waddled out. Assuming this is true at all even. The public mental health care even in a well funded more liberal state like CA is pretty lax and seen a lot of stuff. If Phil shut his mouth said I just got fucked up because why not he looks weird but they don't have much a way to keep him aside try to talk him into signing himself in.

Sadly they've probably seen nuttier there. So if he behaved they would have to let him go.
 
5150 holds are 72 hours.

Phil is really a coward so he probably shut the fuck up looked weird and waddled out. Assuming this is true at all even. The public mental health care even in a well funded more liberal state like CA is pretty lax and seen a lot of stuff. If Phil shut his mouth said I just got fucked up because why not he looks weird but they don't have much a way to keep him aside try to talk him into signing himself in.

Sadly they've probably seen nuttier there. So if he behaved they would have to let him go.

The mental health systems I've seen don't work exactly like that. Usually, they'll take someone in and if they think they aren't a threat to themselves or others, they let them out after 72 hrs. Otherwise, the standard treatment is to prescribe some kind of medication and keep them there until they medication starts to kick in and that takes longer than 72 hrs. His tattoos alone are going to convince everyone around him that, yes, he needs to be under observation.

From what I can tell of Phil, they would have automatically prescribed an anti-depressant for suicide threats and, given his "threats" and claims to be hispanic and a woman and constantly raped, they probably would have prescribed an anti-psychotic for delusions. Yes, you have to keep someone around for a week longer to see if those medications work. Sure, you can refuse medication, but none of the psych hospitals I know of will release you if you refuse treatment like that.

So I think Phil is lying for asspats. Again. And he's embarrassed to admit why he hasn't posted for three days, but I would sure love to find out.
 
The mental health systems I've seen don't work exactly like that. Usually, they'll take someone in and if they think they aren't a threat to themselves or others, they let them out after 72 hrs. Otherwise, the standard treatment is to prescribe some kind of medication and keep them there until they medication starts to kick in and that takes longer than 72 hrs. His tattoos alone are going to convince everyone around him that, yes, he needs to be under observation.

From what I can tell of Phil, they would have automatically prescribed an anti-depressant for suicide threats and, given his "threats" and claims to be hispanic and a woman and constantly raped, they probably would have prescribed an anti-psychotic for delusions. Yes, you have to keep someone around for a week longer to see if those medications work. Sure, you can refuse medication, but none of the psych hospitals I know of will release you if you refuse treatment like that.

So I think Phil is lying for asspats. Again. And he's embarrassed to admit why he hasn't posted for three days, but I would sure love to find out.
Thanks for adding to this, I was mostly working off google.

Now being he's pretty wimpy from all things and as you said his looks could cause some things to be prescribed. Could he just say sure pop pills for a few days. Say I'll go pick them up and CVS and waddle away clean slate?
 
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Now being he's pretty wimpy from all things and as you said his looks could cause some things to be prescribed. Could he just say sure pop pills for a few days. Say I'll go pick them up and CVS and waddle away clean slate?
First off, the doctor would have wanted him under close observation when he starts the medicine. Psych doctors tend to worry about potential side effects and being under close observation helps them catch those asap.

Also, I don't think they'll trust him to be able to handle the pills himself. I mean, he's proven that he can't be trusted to handle his own damn hygiene or bowels, so why do you think he's able to handle his own medications? This is one of the reasons people like Phil do better in supportive housing: they have staff on hand to make sure you take your medication.
 
There is another psychiatric hold on Grand St/ Alameda Av
https://alamedaca.gov/sites/default/files/department-files/2016-04-20/dl_041916.pdf

That happened on April 19th, is closer to Telegraph, and fits with the 72 hour hold. But the Clinton one sounds like Phil to me.

Edit: I take that back. I think it had to be on 4/23 and he was posting just before the hold. He went dark until today. So I'm sticking with Clinton.
 
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As a longtime psychedelic traveler with quite a bit of knowledge on the subject, let me clear some things up.

Phil was most likely trying to either robotrip or abuse "painkillers", both of which are typically very pleasant experiences and are frequently engaged in. However, because he is a stupid retard, Phil does not realize that 1) Motrin PM is not cough medicine, and 2) just because it kills pain and makes him drowsy does not make it a painkiller he can get high off of. Personally, I think the second option is most likely since he's tried to get painkillers before and is a complete idiot, so it's plausible that he would want what he thinks are opiate-like drugs and would mistake motrin for one because... Phil. But we won't know the truth unless he tells us.

More to the point about what happened is that Motrin PM contains two ingredients. One is ibuprofen (advil), which is typically regarded as preferable to acetaminophen (tylenol) when mixed into painkillers and cough medicines to deter abuse. Ibuprofen in large doses does far less damage to the body than acetaminophen. Neither of these ingredients are psychoactive.

The other ingredient in Motrin PM is diphenhydramine, which you will all likely know as Benadryl. Diphenhydramine is an antihistamine which in low doses can help with allergies and nausea, and can also promote sleep. Most PM substances contain diphenhydramine to make the user sleepy. As I said, in low doses, diphenhydramine is quite harmless and is generally a very useful, multi-purpose drug. What most people don't know is that in high doses, diphenhydramine is a very powerful deliriant.

A deliriant is a specific class of hallucinogenic drug whose effects resemble those of delirium (hence the name). It's difficult to describe the experience to someone who hasn't actually used one before, but for the most part these trips are terrifying. During these experiences, you often cannot tell what is real and what isn't--the hallucinations are vivid and real, and your brain can't tell the difference between them and life. Deliriants often induce paranoia and even terror; the user's mind will frequently become trapped in loops of thought, and they will generally make you stupid as hell while you're on them.

To make matters worse, deliriants tend to be quite toxic at high doses. To give you an idea of exactly what kind of stuff we're dealing with, the most well-known deliriant is jimson weed. Most psychedelics users avoid the whole class, and diphenhydramine tends to be a pretty hardcore trip even for experienced psychonauts. If Phil's "dizzy" comment wasn't just a stupid rhyming thing, then he probably took enough to experience psychoactive effects.

And if Phil is high on a substance that causes artificial delirium, no wonder he got arrested. He's already violent and clueless enough normally; just imagine him if he can't get his bearings, thinks the universe is about to unravel, has become violently paranoid and lost all inhibitions, and is hallucinating weird shit that he thinks is real.

Of all the things he could get high on, it was this. It obviously wasn't a suicide attempt; he only posted about this because he got in trouble and is butthurt about it. But he's like some kid who sniffs paint because he's such a loser he can't find a weed dealer. I honestly think that's the only reason Phil doesn't do "real" drugs--he has no friends, is an idiot and a coward, and would shit himself if he tried to ask a black dude to sell him some coke or something. So, he limits himself to stuff that's even worse than the stuff on the street; the stuff they literally are comfortable selling in stores because only a few people are ever dumb/adventurous enough to abuse it.

What a fucking idiot.
 
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