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[I Do Not Post]

meanwhile on /vr/

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Groypers really ruined everything.

 

[Slav Power]

Meanwhile, in the real world...

 

[Bruce LaLiLuLeLo]

/v/ has the same problem every other video game forum has nowadays, and it's zoomoids forming their opinions on games they have never played through youtubers, who fine tune their videos to be as clickbaity and incendiary as possible. So you have guys telling you a beloved classic game they didn't play was akshually overrated because they heard some video essayist say so (they never tell you this is how their formed their opinion by the way), or the opposite, how some reviled piece of shit like Sonic 2006 is a misunderstood diamond in the rough or something.

It's a bit worse than that cause I'm a zoomoid and I've fallen into this trap before.
First thing you need to understand is that zoomoids want to be correct and look cool, either is not enough on their own, both are required. The way we do both in our heads is to be a contrarian, sometimes compulsively, even if it's grating. That's half of it
The other half is the tourist aspect. When you talk about retro games, a lot of people judge each title individually or try to. What we do and I'm guilty of this before, is playing one in the genre and judge all of them by the same experience. Say I play re2, I will end up judging every ps1 3d fixed camera horror game through the re2 lens instead of playing each one, from vampire hunter D to martian gothic to nocturne to nightmare creatures to alone in the dark to whatever, very different varied games will be placed under the same umbrella and judged based on one game.
I doubt many zoomers go to youtubers for opinions, most of them may do that, I would associate that with reddit gamers cause that's what they do, parrot opinions wholesale without playing or watching anything. /v/ tends to just be compulsively contrarian, self contrarian even, spiralling into the contrarianism abyss. Same with /vr/, that's one of my favourite boards and I go there a lot so I know.

 

[Grog]

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See, this mentality is still strange to me because even when I was 10 I could still tell when a game was shit. Sure, when you're a kid you have a tendency to overestimate games that are just *good* and make them into masterpieces, but I never had that happen with games that were outright bad.

First thing you need to understand is that zoomoids want to be correct and look cool, either is not enough on their own, both are required. The way we do both in our heads is to be a contrarian, sometimes compulsively, even if it's grating. That's half of it

This has happened on /v/ with millennials for a long time. As you say, being a contrarian is intrinsically part of the board's culture since 2011 or so, possibly even earlier. It's just that there is a section of newer users (proably all of them gen Z) that are so addicted to YouTube friend simulators that they all get the same contrarian opinion beamed directly into their brains every time one of their e-celebs uploads a video.

 

[blackface enthusiast]

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The Silent Hill fandom is having this issue now where there are a lot of 20-somethings that played the horrible western games as a kid and they didn't know any better but they think that they're "misunderstood" and "not that bad". Shattered Memories gets points for originality but the other titles were awful.

There's nothing wrong with having a fondness for media you consumed as a child, but as an adult you need to be able to differentiate between what parts of it are just your nostalgia and what parts of it are actually decent and have stood the test of time.

meanwhile on /vr/

Honestly surprised, /vr/ jannies love to delete and warn for any little thing.

 

[Bruce LaLiLuLeLo]

This has happened on /v/ with millennials for a long time. As you say, being a contrarian is intrinsically part of the board's culture since 2011 or so, possibly even earlier. It's just that there is a section of newer users (proably all of them gen Z) that are so addicted to YouTube friend simulators that they all get the same contrarian opinion beamed directly into their brains every time one of their e-celebs uploads a video.

I don't think it's a contrarian opinion if it's parroted by a youtuber unless it's a really polarizing opinion. Usually if an opinion is parroted by a youtuber then it spreads outwards and starts getting parroted by other youtubers till it becomes mainstream, at least within the youtubers immediate circle. This even applies to the so called counter culture youtubers. If synthetic man has an opinion, then vee picks up that opinion, andypants picks it up, latina parfait picks it up and suddenly you have an entire group parroting a single opinion.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

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-Why Chronno Trigger and Ocarina of Times sucks and older people are stupid for liking them, an essay
-ICarly for the Wii, a misunderstood masterpiece?

 

[30+GameOvers]

/v/ has the same problem every other video game forum has nowadays, and it's zoomoids forming their opinions on games they have never played through youtubers, who fine tune their videos to be as clickbaity and incendiary as possible. So you have guys telling you a beloved classic game they didn't play was akshually overrated because they heard some video essayist say so (they never tell you this is how their formed their opinion by the way), or the opposite, how some reviled piece of shit like Sonic 2006 is a misunderstood diamond in the rough or something.

It also has an inverse problem, where if you mention ANY youtuber, /v/irgins will cry and shit their pants no matter how relevant to the discussion their particular video is. Some people might be angry that there is so much shilling of certain content creators, sure, but others are just little snowflakes who think that pretending not to watch them makes them hardcore or something. Being contrarian for the sake of it.
BTW Sonic 06 isn't a bad game as much as it is literally unfinished. Many features are broken, there is tons of bugs Sega did not have time to fix, and there is a wealth of cut content, not to mention wonky physics. There is a fan project that fixes all these issues, and I can safely say that the product the developers intended to give us(Sega rather infamously didn't give the game much needed extra time as they wanted to meet some ridiculous anniversary deadline) is rather decent. I understand the point you're making, but maybe Sonic 06 isn't the best example. The game that hit the store shelves was a beta build, borderline tech demo, but now it's been finished by fans, well last I checked Sonic and Shadow's story was not sure about Silver, to a degree it is misunderstood diamond(not sure I would go that far, but the fixed game is certainly not a piece of shit). This is also the version of the game you're going to play today, nobody is hunting down an old console disco of Sonic 06 unless you're some clout chasing youtuber looking to make a memey video.
If somebody makes a case for a clear piece of shit that will always be a piece of shit being "A diamond in the rough" that is another story. I haven't seen much of that however, unless it's an obvious shill trying to sell me a game that just came out that got massive negative reception.

This was already a problem 10 years ago, were suddenly everyone pretended they could lecture people on a game they didn't play based on they viewing a Spoony video or Sequelitis. Its just way worse now that 4chan stopped being the source or original discussion and its just the trash can were all the social media shit takes end up in.

Thing is that now we have much more indepth videos than Spoony's garbage, ie video essays or reviews that go into autistic details. I don't have a problem bringing them into a discussion, as long as they're relevant. Spoony was rarely ever useful, his reviews were more entertaining than anything.
For example, if we're talking about Starfield, Patrician's 9 hour video is de-facto authoritative video on the matter as he has covered literally anything and everything in the game in that video, better than anyone else. I have yet to meet a person who debunked it, closest was NeverKnowsBest but he was only upset that his e-daddy Emil was made fun of and didn't do anything but make an ass of himself for a little bit because of it. Bringing up point A B or C from that video, with evidence being in the video itself, is proper discourse if you're actually having a proper conversation or debate about the game, which never happens on /v/ since it's all shitflinging from trolls or underage. Still, we're talking theoreticals here, if you could have proper discussions there.

 

[GluttonousManSlob]

is there any explaination why posting has been slowing dying for the last 5 years?

if you aren't a schizo, deranged shitposter, bot or underage, why would you want to post there? It's just another website where content is endlessly regurgitated. I'd rather post somewhere where I can immediately identify retarded posters and avoid them. 4chan is a tard playpen where the downies roam wild and free to smear their shit-covered fingers over the walls and the stray regular poster who wanders in there.

 

[Clueless]

>a thread that's nothing more than a guy fingering his dog has been up for twenty minutes now

I don't know what it is about /g/, but the mod(s) are hilariously slow to react to anything. Unrelated but I've also noticed meta threads NEVER get archived. They always get deleted after ~100 posts which is odd considering nothing crazy really happens in them and they're allowed (at least on paper IIRC).

 

[kiwirevolving]

which one of you faggots was it

 

[Fae Supremacist]

Embeds are back on /v/? Good to see mods doing their finest work as always.

 

[The Lawgiver]

/v/ has the same problem every other video game forum has nowadays, and it's zoomoids forming their opinions on games they have never played through youtubers, who fine tune their videos to be as clickbaity and incendiary as possible. So you have guys telling you a beloved classic game they didn't play was akshually overrated because they heard some video essayist say so (they never tell you this is how their formed their opinion by the way), or the opposite, how some reviled piece of shit like Sonic 2006 is a misunderstood diamond in the rough or something.

Or how a game that was really popular when it came out but hasn't been talked about in a few months is a "FORGOTTEN/LOST/OBSCURE" title. God I fucking hate current year vidya coverage from the last 8 years or so.

 

[Punished Magician]

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Embeds are back on /v/? Good to see mods doing their finest work as always.

As much as I love to give the mods shit, this has been an incredibly persistent problem that keeps finding new ways to return months later every time they stamp it out. There are multiple communities dedicated to the technology and the ban evasion networks used to post with it, with multiple players in the field recieving regular payments from their userbase to fund the continued development. This problem has existed in some form or another since the 2000s (when people would use the posted image as a compressed archive for the real shit), and 4chan probably has more measures against it than nearly any other site in existence due to all the novel attacks they've faced over the years. The exact methodology changes all the time; up until recently, you would be able to tell by suspiciously bloated filesizes on images with compression artifacts or downrezzing (they needed to make room to embed a full image), but now they only embed a catbox link to the actual embedded image, which they also started uploading encrypted so that if you tried to report it to catbox it wouldn't be obviously rule-breaking when the admin checked it.

Never underestimate how incredibly fucking persistent these pedoniggers are.

 

[Kyangyenki]

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which one of you faggots was it

 

[Sugriva]

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which one of you faggots was it

>lust provoking image
>irrelevant, time wasting questions

 

[Jobama]

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which one of you faggots was it

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KiwiGAWDS run /v/

 

[blackface enthusiast]

I managed to catch the thread near the end and Patpost.

 

[Nuclear Operative]

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which one of you faggots was it

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Interesting thread otherwise, it's just a lot of seething against Null.

 

[whore loving dragon]

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Interesting thread otherwise, it's just a lot of seething against Null.

There's nothing wrong with American cheese anyway, it's real cheddar with a little sodium citrate as an emulsifier. Also null is fat and fat people should never be listened to about food. It's like listening to a heroin addict tell you why caffeine is bad for you.