Plagued 4chan - the Internet hate machine

[i like sonoshee]

It was just where certain boards moved because they hated the jannies. From my perspective it's where the "cool kids" went. I was from the previous generation and not part of the club. It's the first chan that people said was "better" than 4chan. It was slower and /v/ was usable. On 4chan, /v/ was unusable after around '08. I can't remember specific timelines for altchans and I need to look up my own screenshots and shit just to remember what went down with 8chan even though I was intimately involved with that one.

where is anyone supposed to go at this point. usenet?

 

[N1bbaN3rd]

One big reason that imageboards are not going to be making a comeback is due to the changed nature of the online ecosystem. The internet has been changed - permanently marred, really - by the sheer prevalence of social media. In 4chan's time, if you had beef with a given community or even another imageboard, you just didn't need to fucking go there and maybe talk about it and that was the fucking end of it.

Nowadays we have entire groups who literally do nothing but hunt down opinions they don't like and push towards getting them removed from the internet writ large. We have people online - quite literal human detritus like Bardfinn - who literally will go to a community that's done no wrong except express an opinion he personally disapproves of - and actively go out of his way to sabotage it. by literally uploading child porn to it - and individuals like Bardfinn are terrifyingly common as jannies within the operating of the modern internet now. They quite literally think anything they do to fuck with you is fair game, lest your opinion and not theirs reach the mainstream consciousness. The mere fact that you exist and express an opinion other than theirs is an offense they cannot countenance, because every waking second that opinion exists out there, unmolested and unfiltered, is a reminder of how fucking worthless shitheads like this are.

There is no restraint in their actions: If they could murder you over even tangential disagreement with their doctrine, they would do it with an honest-to-god smile on their faces.

Of course, anyone with a passing understanding of cause and effect sees the problem here: Namely that the jannies themselves are a literal advertisement against their own positions, and that the Streisand Effect remains alive and well. Reddit didn't get its reputation as the most toxic and malicious shithole on the internet in a vacuum; the shitheads running it made it that way. There are so many cows we cover that are also the literal embodiment of why everyone considers Jannies the lowest form of online social life that it is practically a meme, and they have done, through their hubris, more damage to their own side than all of us combined shitposting with the force of a thermobaric warhead could. Every single day reality refuses to conform to the delusion is more salt in the wounds.

Therein lies why we aren't going to see image boards return as a mainline form of internet content for some time. Not until this current crop of online faggotry starts to die off (figuratively, and we're slowly edging that direction) at least. The anonymous nature of them makes fucking with them pretty much effortless, and there are defective people with nothing but free time who will do nothing but camp a board waiting for the perfect time to act like a fucker and then self-report it to daddy government and every friendly journalist outlet they can reach. They don't care that it makes tjhings worse for everyone, they view any transgression from their orthodoxy as apostasy and they will act accordingly. They used this tactic to destroy 8chan (8chan's userbase being fucking retarded did it no favors, but the gay ops done to destroy it are undeniable), they've used it against subreddits they don't like, and they've used it to shut forums down.

......But there will come a time when this shit winds down. The troons and loons who actively make online discourse worse have long since outlived their usefulness to the establishment, and their chronic health problems and embrace of vice and weakness means they will essentially burn themselves out, either figuratively or literally. On the global stage, the tide has turned against them - the UK (of all places) literally just dropped the legal YWNBAW in their laps, and the very nature of their breed of activism means they will exhaust themselves in their bloodlust long before we all collectively stop being shatteringly autistic. Once the dust settles from that, you're going to see a return of imageboard culture, though it will take a different form from how it was in our time. I personally look forward to seeing it.

The TL;DR I got from that was "We need total troon death."

 

[William Teller]

Hi I'm just here for the argument about who is more reddit, 4chan or kiwi farms. I feel like we really should hammer out this answer as soon and productively as possible.

I think kiwi forces me to post better stuff which I like. But I also like to shitpost or share random stuff on 4chan. For example I took a shit 10min ago. Normally I would go to /int/, go in a random country general and say that I took a shit. I cant do this here.

 

[john goldfish]

It was just where certain boards moved because they hated the jannies. From my perspective it's where the "cool kids" went. I was from the previous generation and not part of the club. It's the first chan that people said was "better" than 4chan. It was slower and /v/ was usable. On 4chan, /v/ was unusable after around '08. I can't remember specific timelines for altchans and I need to look up my own screenshots and shit just to remember what went down with 8chan even though I was intimately involved with that one.

8pol was my bread, I never engaged significantly with other alt-chans beyond occasional lurking, but I was under the impression 7ch was a place that got a lot of track after /pol/harbor, but that it had lost the alt-war for attention and traction to 8chan. If you're saying 7ch was an alt for people back in '08 then I'm probably wrong and misremembering the order of events. I'm a 2011 eternal newfag and missed the golden age (it's so over).

 

[Braito-san]

>All I can do is hope that, despite what you've suffered, that you'll continue to help keep this community alive. There's nothing else quite like it on the internet, and without you, there might never be anything like it ever again.
KEEEEEEEEEK fuck you faggot. Your jannies being massive faggots, constantly doing the wrong decisions and their constant spergouts are why people bothered to hack you in the first place.
Edit: And I want to add more. Without your repetitively retarded decisions with complete lack of foresight, such as lazily shutting down a whole board just to save the troons, Sharty wouldn't even be a thing in the first place. Or at least, it wouldn't have been birthed as extreme as it is. But it's a good thing you faggots keep shooting yourselves in the foot so that rightful redemption comes for you.

 

[usualobjective]

/arse/ bros, are you here? I miss you. One of the biggest weeks in our history and we can't celebrate it together.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

SO IT HAPPENED AGAIN

 

[Internet May Be Gay]

Demands? The admins, mods, and jannies will only hate us even more. They are going to be even more defensive and less willing to listen to reasonable suggestions from anons. It's going to be weird as fuck when it goes back up. Anons won't be allowed to say anything about the elephant in the room. We will be expected to resume posting as normal, except jannies and mods will be breathing down our necks so closely, we'll be able to smell the pepperoni hot pockets and estrogen-infused cum on their breath through our screens.

kinda why i was thinking over making a new thread about this inevitable moment and what to do. currently were scattered about the landascape in some alt chans, everyone is unhappy, and some are fighting/warring with each other.
its an interesting situation, and most of this are things we couldnt talk about ensemble at 4chan anyway.

 

[ringtones]

If you're saying 7ch was an alt for people back in '08

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no I can't remember the timelines specifically. When I think back about what happened in chans I'm thinking about where I was when I was browsing them and what computer I was browsing them on. There's no trigger in my brain that says "this was 2005, that was 2009." It's more like "this was when I had a core 2 duo in that apartment on the hill, this is when I was stealing wifi with a pringles can, this was when I was surfing on the backup Engineering laptop", etc. A major event happened to me sometime after 2010 that made things very strange so I'm an unreliable narrator at best

most of the users around here are similar, we were all kind of phasing in and out of chans and message boards over the past 20 years

 

[MuffGobbler]

It's going to be weird as fuck when it goes back up

As soon as it's up I'll show the sheltered /vt/roons who their janny is. Nothing eases the tension like a good hearty laugh

 

[Chemo]

Level with me. How likely is it that pass emails and post histories are leaked?

I wouldn't mind it, to be honest, haul me up in front of the Sanhedrin, I say. I've composed some whopper posts over the years, real zingers that I'd love the opportunity to further wax lyrical about in front of an audience.

Anyway, who gives a rat's arse? Most people going there are disenfranchised already, what's anyone going to do? Disenfranchise them further? How do you further disenfranchise people who've already been ostracised – or at least feel they have – from society?

 

[Internet May Be Gay]

I really think it will be back, not because I'm tech savvy and know things, it just feels inevitable. It was too big of a site to be down permanently, if the current owner doesn't restore it he'll sell it to someone who will. And when it comes back the regulars will go back and it will be basically back to normal. This should happen sooner than later.

I'm happy I discovered this site in the meantime because I actually think I prefer it here, even if Nulldog rudely ignored my request for trans flag stickers, which I think would be very topical. That's why I was suggesting to look around, bc it's a little inactive at the moment but if more refugees start engaging with old threads it could be a very lively alternative to our old boards and generals (I'm from /hor/).

im with you, i like it here
but one things missing is certainly the ability to catch news before its news. the /pol/ catalog, for better or worse, was great for this. the long threads ofr current events here dont work as well, honestly.
much to love here and im sticking around, but i do want this piece solved.

imagine if the taking down of 4chan was on purpose, just imagine, by power that want to obfuscate whats going on, maintaining that ability in spite of these events then becomes important.

 

[Rave3n]

jannies and mods will be breathing down our necks so closely, we'll be able to smell the pepperoni hot pockets and estrogen-infused cum on their breath through our screens.

Reminder that we have gathered over 500 anons so far here with accts on kiwi now
We now have a meta forum they can't just delete or have any control over
Which means we can now collaborate and Voltron raids and Operations beyond their power to interfere.
I plan to shit the fuck out of /lgbt/
Just have your phones on data so you can band evade

 

[ringtones]

where is anyone supposed to go at this point. usenet?

have you tried? Did you make an account here? Did you post in any of the bunkers? Did you join a Fediverse instance? Or did you just sit in 4chan with an ocean of filth slowly rising past your ankles happily typing about how much you want to fuck the girls from Blue Archive and posting images of their feet while transexual site moderators delete every third post and ban you for 3 days every 5 days?

 

[wmaf1488]

I think kiwi forces me to post better stuff which I like. But I also like to shitpost or share random stuff on 4chan. For example I took a shit 10min ago. Normally I would go to /int/, go in a random country general and say that I took a shit. I cant do this here.

Happens in your country???

 

[Meat Target]

but one things missing is certainly the ability to catch news before its news.

Go to the Autistic Thunderdome (Articles & Happenings) section. You'll get it.

 

[Taki Supremacy]

I know this because I accidentally purchased this 830 page piece of crap which includes virtually everything besides the rats in the walls. "The new Annotated" should have set off red flags for me. It was the first story I went to reread and was confused how it could not be included here.

"The New Annotated" should have, as the introduction by Alan Moore. Him and his wife made a pedo graphic novel. I got this from Barnes & Noble like 10 years ago.

 

[stars.]

Level with me. How likely is it that pass emails and post histories are leaked?

Hacker has stated he will not leak any info on anons but who really knows. Even if he's telling the truth, what's to stop someone else from hacking him and stealing it and leaking it? I'm not a tech person so I honestly don't know.

 

[Ashen OA'non]

what to do

Nothing. I think it's best that kiwi doesn't get that attention from the headline "The Evil Forum Who Brought Back 4chan to it's Roots". We've seen what being mainstream does.
Now, nobody can stop you from making funny infographics that can be reposted over and over, or catchphrases or bring the spotlight on the fact that most jannies on mainstream websites and discords are of the trannie kind, making others begin to notice.
Although the collective consciousness of the normalfagsphere questioning why the alt-right hacker was being controlled by transwomen would be funny.

 

[Accept Some Substitutes]

For some time now I've been of the opinion that the true cause of 4chan's demise was a generational turnover in its user base.
Once zoomers became the majority, 4chan became gay and retarded.

As a user with very moderate views on 4chan politics, my thoughts on how to improve it would be:
-Remove /pol/
-Ban everyone below the age of 25 from posting
-Sodomize every cellphone poster
-Behead the janitors
-Literally flay every single person who has posted BBC porn or twitter screencaps in the streets
-Bomb india and israel (just in case)
I think we can agree that all those are very sensible steps towards improvement of the site