Interests 6/22 - Chris at Too Many Games convention - Day 2 - Chris has a meltdown, kicked out of con for boundary issues, kissing attendees

[cruderudedude]

Chris is very upset about having been kicked out. Which is good. This could have ended up in him going to jail if he grabbed a tit.

Ah, obviously. The way you phrased it made it sound like someone talked to Chris like the special needs individual he is and told him to respect others personal space, and THATS what got him upset.

 

[Xarpho]

The Classic is definitely the canonical Chris outfit, but that sweater sure is associated with a lot of bad memories for him, huh?

 

[Null]

I don't know if the talk has happened yet. I'd like it to happen soon. Chris's recent tweets backtracking the apology bothers me and it's upset the Twitter shitheads who are now calling him a pedophile and a rapist for pecking some girl on the cheek.

 

[Graffiti canvas]

I don't know if the talk has happened yet. I'd like it to happen soon. Chris's recent tweets backtracking the apology bothers me and it's upset the Twitter shitheads who are now calling him a pedophile and a rapist for pecking some girl on the cheek.

tbf though, I've seen this place slap that label on people for less.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

This has so many throwbacks to "old Chris"

Megan (2005-2006):

Although I really don't mean to be cold but please don't try and advance on kissing me please.

Catherine date (2014):

Chris wanted to kiss me after the second outing (which I adamantly declared was not a date, several times, which Chris refused to accept), and I said no. That's weird, that's creepy, we aren't dating.... NO. He asked for a hug, instead, and I still said no because I said it felt uncomfortable since we weren't dating. So instead he "walked me to the car" and as I was getting in he just half climbed in after me and hugged me really awkwardly, bent in half since I was sitting down, face-down in my tits.

He introduced me to Bob via an old picture. He kept putting his arm around me and getting creepy too close so I kept moving around and fake sneezing. I thought it was because he's creepy, Al thinks it's his autism, but it's likely both. Funnily enough he mentioned earlier that his experiences with Megan taught him NOT to do that touchy creepy thing. He was bragging about it.

Too Many Games (201

This seems to be a problem for Chris, stretching back to over a decade. I don't buy, at all, that he's just "Autistic" or some trolling effort. It's Chris 100%. I highly doubt that the Facebook message was the only warning, and going off of previous incidents, Chris probably didn't register it because he was in some Manic episode.

I think that's the red thread connecting a lot of these creepy behaviors in Chris, he's all amped up, and either doesn't want to, or can't understand various pretty clear social boundaries.

His victim blaming doesn't even begin to make things better, and just reinforces the idea that he thinks this is all okay, it's not his fault, and he's the real victim here.

That goes well beyond "Plz be patient, I have autism".

 

[MahFibro!]

I asked someone with an autistic kid to give him the personal space talk and I think he's genuinely very upset over this, so if you're a fan of Chris going out and doing stuff, hope I'm doing some good here. I like seeing him out of his element with fans taking creepshots like they've spotted bigfoot. That to me is more entertaining than the 5 years of begging and trans shit.

Like I know a lot of people, even here on kf, are mad that I have a lot of influence right now, but I'm trying to settle the dust just enough for Chris to be comfortable being Chris again.

Let's just hope that - if CWC is genuinely upset by all this - he remembers how this felt and avoids repeating it down the line.

Sadly, I'm not very optimistic.

 

[trueandhonestfan]

I don't know if the talk has happened yet. I'd like it to happen soon. Chris's recent tweets backtracking the apology bothers me and it's upset the Twitter shitheads who are now calling him a pedophile and a rapist for pecking some girl on the cheek.

How pathetic do you have to be to take Chris' awkwardness this seriously. Being upset about unwanted kissing and hugging is one thing and understandable, but it's far from attempting rape. And unless Chris is kissing and touching children (which I really doubt!) there's absolutely no grounds to call him a pedophile.

I did see a bunch of people yesterday talking about how Chris was a "molester" (and no, he's not. He's not some rapist {statuatory or otherwise} taking advantage of someone who can't say know or can't consent), he's just a kind of creepy autist with boundary issues.

Yeah kissing strangers who don't want it is inappropriate, gross (especially when it's Chris), and people are right to be offended, but it shouldn't be likened to sexual assualt. This is just more of the "Chris is the devil" wēēnery that only other autists are behind. Odds are these guys are just as bad as Chris and have done the exact same thing at some point.

 

[Marvin]

Let's just hope that - if CWC is genuinely upset by all this - he remembers how this felt and avoids repeating it down the line.

Sadly, I'm not very optimistic.

Chris responds well to punishment if he believes that, in the future, the punishment will be inevitable. Which is a big if.

 

[Lez]

I know there's someone planned to talk to Christine, but I'd recommend firing some social stories Christine's way, which would include other people's perspectives and explanations for why people acted like they did. It's a lack of knowing and understanding personal boundaries. Autistic people can find it hard to relate to other people's feelings, and sometimes you have to ask them 'how would you feel if someone did x'? Or explain it in a form of a story because they can't imagine the scenario outcomes for themselves. As for the backtracking, some autistic people will say what they think people want to hear and to avoid getting in trouble, or will apologize even if they don't think they're in the wrong - it's important to have them elaborate on WHY what they did was not acceptable.

 

[XYZpdq]

Oh hey look it's that giant slobbering dog that rose to fame in no small part for slobbering all over people that got close to him. I'll go get close to him and take a selfie oh wow wtf he slobbered on me.

 

[Null]

Oh hey look it's that giant slobbering dog that rose to fame in no small part for slobbering all over people that got close to him. I'll go get close to him and take a selfie oh wow wtf he slobbered on me.

 

[Eryngium]

I had kinda hoped Chris had moved on from being the laughing stock on the internet and finally grow up and manage to cash in on his internet notoriety, guess not.

Guess that’s where gets you

Well at least he can still be a lol cow I guess.

 

[Among Which]

I keep seeing posts defending Chris that essentially boil down to "they knew what they were getting into with Chris".

Wouldn't that imply that Chris never lears and never changes (late I know)? He is what, like 36 years old now and the expectation is that he doesn't learn and you should expect spergy behavior out of him.

And the biggest tragedy is that @Null still has hope that Chris will learn. Sometimes a cow is just a cow, no matter what you do.

 

[Null]

And the biggest tragedy is that @Null still has hope that Chris will learn. Sometimes a cow is just a cow, no matter what you do.

Chris does learn. Idk how that's a tragedy to at least make an attempt to help someone. I'm not a victim.

People who root for someone to fail, especially if succeeding generates funny content long term, are losers imo

 

[dacwcman68]

I asked someone with an autistic kid to give him the personal space talk and I think he's genuinely very upset over this.

Is he upset that he did something wrong, or that he got kicked out? In all of these scenes he makes in public it always seems to be at the fault of somebody else, and I genuinely think Chris lacks the capacity to take the fall when he’s in the wrong; his delusions and fantasy land he lives in has only exacerbated this problem it seems as well. I want to see Chris be happy in public, but he seriously needs therapy or some sort of tard training to teach him when to realize that he’s done wrong at nobody’s fault but his own

 

[Null]

lol calm down. He thought people hugging on him wanted a kiss too. He's only very recently been having people walking up to him wanting pictures and stuff.

 

[cruderudedude]

social stories

kind of fftopic: but I think it's pretty funny that this site about raising an autistic child has this big scary countdown plastered every where with a red background. Isn't that the kind of thing an autistic person would find really upsetting?

 

[dacwcman68]

lol calm down. He thought people hugging on him wanted a kiss too. He's only very recently been having people walking up to him wanting pictures and stuff.

No rational human thinks that way, though. Chris is too stupid to learn that truth on his own and Twitter just calls him a retarded rapist which obviously doesn’t help the situation

 

[trueandhonestfan]

No rational human thinks that way, though. Chris is too stupid to learn that truth on his own and Twitter just calls him a exceptional rapist which obviously doesn’t help the situation

It's almost as if Chris struggles to comprehend how his actions make other people feel.

While I think it's Chris' fault he got kicked out, and I do think he somewhat deserved it, this is different from Chris being inconsiderate and kissing, hugging, or touching women he's interested in. Here he's legitimately just being friendly albeit in a really exceptional way. In this situation he's not being an asshole who's doing whatever he wants. He's just struggling to understand boundaries and not comprehending that some people don't want his friendly cheek kissing. Remember @Copitz tweeted about it without complaining so Chris might think that other people won't mind either.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

On some level Chris must know that hugging people that dont want to be hugged is going to get him into trouble but on the other hand Too Many Games overreacted and could of at least gave him a proper verbal warning instead of pussyfooting around the guy.

I actually think alot of Chris's problems are due to not having anyone teach him to conduct himself properly in public due to Barb being insane and in denial about his autism and Bob being too old. He seriously needs a special needs support worker with him in these scenarios to help Chris navigate around the Too Many Games rules which seem nebulous at best and just to keep an eye on Chris mental state (I cant find the right word) instead of Chris being treated like a modern day Elephant Man. Its like he never learns the difference between people laughing at him and with him and the subtle difference between women being nice to him and flirting.
Can you hire special needs support workers privately in America for people like Chris?