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No. Under Canadian law Yaniv has a right to face his accusers.
Megathread 8-9-19: Yaniv visits the farms. - Death threats, tampons and porn, oh my!
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No. Under Canadian law Yaniv has a right to face his accusers.
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I'm pretty sure he'd seriously want to take advantage of that one
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For all the shit that's happening, I think this story should be a good plot for a horror-survival game.
"Escape from the building, or he will catch you"
"Escape from the building, or he will catch you"
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Oh fuck, player is an immigrant aesthetician, to win you must evade Johnboy. Get caught - you wax the balls.
10/10, would play
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So has Yaniv ever been dumb enough to post his nudes anywhere? Asking because I wanna laugh at the parts of his body he thinks passes for a hermaphrodite penis/vagina combo before I throw up in shame and regret.
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And this is both why they're not going to pay any attention to someone from an internet forum calling in and why @WGkitty should be very careful (even if I'd love to see Jonny Boy hit with another charge). At the moment we are under the assumption that the Yanivs do not know who the moles are in the building. Attempting to bring legal action based on those threats would almost certainly change that.
Also, based on what we've seen from local LE on the topic of Jonathan, I'm not sure I would want to even identify myself as his target to them without speaking to a lawyer first. There's time to pursue charges later when it might be more important than maintaining anonymity- like if he figures out who it is anyway.
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Cross post Yaniv issues death threats to Donald on YouTube https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jonat...ows-it-jy-british-columbia.49790/post-5147945
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Is there a statute of limitations on something like a death threat in Canada? Even if there is, no need to rush. Just continue to gather good documentation. That lends more weight to the case if it ever comes to a law enforcement situation.
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I was wondering that in relation to the child abuse claims from 5-6 years ago...
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Seems like there is no limitation on sexual offenses. I'm having a hard time finding anything about the death threats.
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Threats are very difficult to action in Canadian law, from the perspective of a lay person. It seems like Americans have a much tighter leash on "threats". If it follows a particular form, it's actionable?
Especially these ones, in social media, between adults, where there's clear provocation, RC will apply their "reasonable person" standards.
Assuming WGKitty has normal intelligence, the police are likely to treat the process the way a school principal would treat an argument between a kindergarten kid and a third grader. The third grade won't get far claiming to be afraid of a kindergarten kid.
I realize this is problematic, particularly if the kindergartener is a sociopath BUT beyond taking the report, police will not do anything until there's some targeted escalation. Reporting for a record is important. They will more quickly take action if there's a pattern of escalation toward an individual.
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This is what really worries me about people coming forward - obviously it's a good thing to get Yaniv on as many charges as possible, but the cost could potentially be very, very high. Is there any mechanism in Canada by which the police could hide the complainant's identity due to fear for their own life?
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There is only a statute of limitations on 'summary conviction offenses', basically, lesser crimes. I think typically these charges have a statute of limitations of six months. This explains it pretty well, and outlines the three types of offenses that exist in Canada.
Also: https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/victims-victimes/court-tribunaux/offences-infractions.html
It basically depends on how the Crown decides to pursue charges (summary conviction, hybrid, or indictable).
My completely uneducated guess is that IF charges were ever laid for the threat made, they would be a summary conviction charge. Still, imagine if he even got 3-6 months probation? All those calls to the police? Under probation? I'd like to see how that would go down.
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Not really. Not if it heads to court. There is a form of witness protection, but that is very seldom used. It's one reason there is such a difficulty in breaking up big gangs. It's extremely hard to navigate the Canadian system without alerting the gang members to your identity... And the police aren't really resourced adequately to protect you. They could probably send you to a hospital or remand. That's about it. Realistically. Big centers likely have more options.
It's very hard to make a claim that you were a victim of this type of crime if the accused doesn't know who you are, and they have a right to face their accuser. I honestly think this is a good feature of Canadian law, there are some quasi judicial activities (child protective services, etc) where anonymous complaints are almost encouraged. These are ripe for abuse, and I personally advocate for changes.
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This site I found has some more specific answers on the specific offense I believe. Seems like a hybrid and would have to be reported within 6 months of the offense....am I interpreting that correctly? Your explanation on limitations does seem to mirror exactly what I've been able to find on it so far. Since I'm from the US, you'd know better than I would so I will take your word for it.There is only a statute of limitations on 'summary conviction offenses', basically, lesser crimes. I think typically these charges have a statute of limitations of six months. This explains it pretty well, and outlines the three types of offenses that exist in Canada.
Also: https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/victims-victimes/court-tribunaux/offences-infractions.html
It basically depends on how the Crown decides to pursue charges (summary conviction, hybrid, or indictable).
My completely uneducated guess is that IF charges were ever laid for the threat made, they would be a summary conviction charge. Still, imagine if he even got 3-6 months probation? All those calls to the police? Under probation? I'd like to see how that would go down.
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I *think* hybrid charges do not carry a statute (only summary charges do), but I'm sure there are Canadians lurking with more educated information who hopefully will weigh in...
I do know of someone who was found guilty of uttering threats very recently, who got 18 months probation. This person did have a history of petty crimes in their youth, and some petty crimes as an adult, so they had a history, unlike Yaniv. The fact that he has no criminal history is to his benefit.
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Hypothetically speaking, do you think his ongoing more recent history of litigiousness, owning illegal weapons, sexual harrassment of minors, ownership of CP (all of these being open cases atm), and being recorded giving false reports to emergency services and abuse of these services would have any weight on a given punishment?
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Nope. Not in the slightlest. Most of those things aren't proven, reported, and are speculation anyway.
Wait. Unless I missed something. He hasn't formally been charged with the illegal weapons to my knowledge (seized, but no charges laid). Same goes for CP - we speculate and hope, but there's no proof/charges. The online texting of minors hasn't gone anywhere.... It's not illegal to sue, or even call 911 daily. He flies under the radar. Ish. So far.
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Damn I was hoping the logical answer wasnt the right answer in this case
Edit: I still have to wonder if the weapons charges would affect it seeing as that is the one and only thing the cops have actually charged him with. But since it is still a pending case I suppose your answer still applies
Edit 2: I think I read that the uttering threats charge usually isn't even followed through with unless there is a good implication that the person making the threats will actually attempt harm. Also read that drunkenness is a possible defense. So with those aspects it is hard to believe the threats here would even make it beyond a report but I am going to stay optimistic until wgkitty gives any update on their interaction with RCMP
I heard he was released with promise to appear in court. I am not sure what the original source for this is though
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Keep in mind JY posted threats/details about two of his second-floor neighbors that he thought were @WGkitty--one with young children in the house-- and The Kitty has himself posted that he's worried about what JY/MY would do to anyone they felt were The Kitty. The "slit your throat" threats could apply to anyone in this Strata, esp the second floor. I think it viable that if even five of them complained to Strata about this guy behind his tinted windows issuing threats being worrying about being ID'd as The Kitty, the Strata would be more inclined to act at least for CYA. Strata has its own lawyers who could easily write a C/D letter informing JY to remove the window modifications and prohibiting guests from yelling at randos.
Maybe The Kitty himself isn't on JY/MY radar, but the WHOLE BUILDING is.