[9,10+12-Jun-2019] DSP's E3 Coverage - Preceded by "Mini-Chill Streams", thank goodness

[Sparkletor 2.0]

I'm out of the loop. What exactly is "cloud streaming" games? To hear Phil explain it, you could play games with no hardware. How? I understand kind of how streaming video works, but how would you play a game with no hardware? Your controller would have to communicate with something, right?

I remember way back in the mid 90's there was a service called "Sega Channel". You would rent a box that plugged into your Sega Genesis and hooked up to the cable line. Then you could "stream" dozens of games for a monthly fee without actually owning them. You still needed a Genesis to use it. Is "cloud streaming" anything like this?

 

[JackDavis]

I'm out of the loop. What exactly is "cloud streaming" games? To hear Phil explain it, you could play games with no hardware. How? I understand kind of how streaming video works, but how would you play a game with no hardware? Your controller would have to communicate with something, right?

Your controller is connected to your computer/console, and your inputs are sent over the internet to the server. The server takes your inputs, runs the game and sends the video/audio over to you like Netflix.
There's a little bit of lag, you wouldn't want to play Street Fighter on it, but games like Assassins' Creed and RPGs work well with it.

It's like playing a game on another computer with Team Viewer.

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

Your controller is connected to your computer/console, and your inputs are sent over the internet to the server. The server takes your inputs, runs the game and sends the video/audio over to you like Netflix.
There's a little bit of lag, you wouldn't want to play Street Fighter on it, but games like Assassins' Creed and RPGs work well with it.

It's like playing a game on another computer with Team Viewer.

Ok. Phil makes it sound like all you need to do is point your controller at the TV. He argues that it's dumb for Microsoft to make Project Scarlet since they will also have cloud streaming because you don't need any hardware to cloud stream.

This is where I'm confused. You would need a Scarlet console to stream Scarlet games, right? You wouldn't need a physical copy of the game or even a digital download, but wouldn't you need the hardware to run the program?

 

[Pargon]

Ok. Phil makes it sound like all you need to do is point your controller at the TV. He argues that it's dumb for Microsoft to make Project Scarlet since they will also have cloud streaming because you don't need any hardware to cloud stream.

This is where I'm confused. You would need a Scarlet console to stream Scarlet games, right? You wouldn't need a physical copy of the game or even a digital download, but wouldn't you need the hardware to run the program?

Unless it's somehow integrated into your television (which I'm sure every video game hardware developer would cream their pants over being able to do because how better to sell you new content you'll never own even if you pay for it than to wave it in front of your face without your being able to stop it while your kid watches Dora the Explorer or whatever), then yes. you'd need the hardware. Google/Microsoft/Sony isn't going to license out ways to use their services; they'd be crazy not to keep that stuff proprietary. The closest we'll get is something like a Google-branded television that has it built-in.

 

[Eugene Drizzledick]

I remember way back in the mid 90's there was a service called "Sega Channel". You would rent a box that plugged into your Sega Genesis and hooked up to the cable line. Then you could "stream" dozens of games for a monthly fee without actually owning them. You still needed a Genesis to use it. Is "cloud streaming" anything like this?

Sega Channel downloaded the entire game, which was easy since file sizes were small.

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

Unless it's somehow integrated into your television (which I'm sure every video game hardware developer would cream their pants over being able to do because how better to sell you new content you'll never own even if you pay for it than to wave it in front of your face without your being able to stop it while your kid watches Dora the Explorer or whatever), then yes. you'd need the hardware. Google/Microsoft/Sony isn't going to license out ways to use their services; they'd be crazy not to keep that stuff proprietary. The closest we'll get is something like a Google-branded television that has it built-in.

My Sony Bravia TV had some sort of welfare Playstation built into it.

 

[JackDavis]

This is where I'm confused. You would need a Scarlet console to stream Scarlet games, right? You wouldn't need a physical copy of the game or even a digital download, but wouldn't you need the hardware to run the program?

With Google's Stadia model, you can stream the games straight to a cheap ass ChromeCast, you don't need a console.
Which is fine and dandy if you don't mind the lag and your internet is good enough (recommended 25mbps, real world who knows?).
The console is for people who don't like shitty blurry compressed graphics, delayed controls and always-on internet requirements. Also these services aren't going to be free. You're going to be paying a monthly service fee for it. Of course Phil doesn't mind this because he fucking loves premium monthly services.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Of course Phil doesn't mind this because he fucking loves premium monthly services.

That's something about him that just baffles me. He's old enough to remember when everything wasn't a goddamn subscription and yet he still falls for that stuff every time. Autism, man.

 

[Kheapathic]

That's something about him that just baffles me. He's old enough to remember when everything wasn't a goddamn subscription and yet he still falls for that stuff every time. Autism, man.

Like most people, it's the convenience that convinces them to pay. He also ended up selling a lot of his movies remember; God only knows what else he had to unload.

 

[Freshtodeath]

he skipped the n64 era to play SF so he probably doesn't realize how crazy it is that Banjo will be on a nintendo console. He still does his thing where he shits on literally everything. It's fine to be contrarian but dude some things are good you don't have to shit on every announcement.

 

[OneDaySon]

"This event where I skipped literally half of the content (Microsoft, Ubisoft, Bethesda, Square/EA, Nintendo, Devolver Digital, PC Gaming) didn't have a lot going on. Not much happened. I wish that the conferences were a series of trailers and then more in depth looks at the games after. You know, exactly like 3 of the 4 events I skipped because they weren't 'big' or 'real conferences' or whatever."