9/11 memorial thread

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Kari Kamiya said:
The psychological and emotional trauma 9/11 inflicted on us as kids is so hard to convey, but everyone in the same age-group knows that feeling without fail.
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Like that's a real good point: why the fuck didn't the adults keep things under wraps for the sake of the kids outside of NYC? I live on the other side of the country and woke up to my parents watching the news and Mom crying and not knowing what was happening as we were shuffled off to school, and then everyone was talking about it but had no idea how to process it. My teacher then decided to turn on a separate TV in the room for us to gather around and watch for a few minutes, and seeing the footage of the plane hitting the second tower was harrowing, everyone was upset. One girl was sobbing hysterically because it was her birthday and she had to see all that.

I was lucky my mom chose to only talk about it to us kids if we approached her with questions, which wasn't a whole lot. For the most part, my brothers and I continued to be kids despite all that (to the point where I got stitches a few nights later simply for being a retard, I only remembered the date was after 9/11 because there was footage of Bin Laden on the TV in the lounge).

I already mentioned in this thread about my childhood friend, so no need to repeat myself.
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I'm glad I got to watch it, and angry the only reason I did was because lol sped. Probably the only time sped was useful to me. I think middle schoolers deserved to watch probably the most significant historical even in their lives unfold.

A lot of this is probably because I was 12 and thousands of miles away, but 9/11 wasn't traumatic so much as the response to it. Seeing all the hate and warmongering, then the start of wars that would ultimately destroy our future. The American gov response to 9/11 will always be infinitely worse than even the most tasteless 9/11 joke or reaction to it.

9/11 brought out the best in some people, but unfortunately other people reacted to the evil attack with just as much evil. Including, and especially people in power.

I also learned way more about the real reasons 9/11 happened after I left school than in school. For the most part, the story we got told in school was the Saturday morning cartoon narrative that those evil mooslims just hated freedom!!!1!. Nothing about how the US was originally buddies with Bin Laden and Co. and their imperialistic shenanigans and ignoring reports that there were terror attacks being plotted. Or how in many ways it was just a retarded slap fight between oligarch failsons (Bin Laden and the Bushes).

This is autistic AF, but I think growing up amidst all that contributed to my interest in Gundam and similar mecha series. Seeing all the warmongering and hyper-nationalism drove me to media critical of that shit that explores complex political fuckery, created by mentally ill Japanese men born during WW2 (so completely understandable why someone like Tomino would be so critical of imperialism, nationalism, and warmongering).
 
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Overcast said:
All the babies born on this day are now legally adults.

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Happy Birthday.
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Bruh actually true. I was only a few months old when the planes hit. Growing up, the bush years and even a bit of Obama, we may not have seen it happen; we knew it did, because no one would joke around on 9/11. Everyone was happy in school when Osama got shot. It was a different time. In a way we were united. Now it's a joke and a day for New York to tell all the news stations to have wall to wall coverage of something that happened 22 years ago. I kinda just want to put it to rest. It feels like you're dancing on Graves at that point to milk those who remember.
 
The unity immediately after 9/11 and the subsequent few months really has me thinking that if one happened today, that sort of unity is fundamentslly impossible just due to the decline in living standards since then due to inflation, the hyper-polarized political landscape and just how atomized (and thus how gullible) most Americans are now. I think we would all recognize it as bad, but we would be trying to blame one another for it rather than killing the son of a bitch that did it. It's doubly ironic since 9/11 brought in all those sweeping chamges that have destroyed American society since then in the form of the Patriot Act and the like.
 
Geddy Lee's Fee and See said:
The unity immediately after 9/11 and the subsequent few months really has me thinking that if one happened today, that sort of unity is fundamentslly impossible just due to the decline in living standards since then due to inflation, the hyper-polarized political landscape and just how atomized (and thus how gullible) most Americans are now. I think we would all recognize it as bad, but we would be trying to blame one another for it rather than killing the son of a bitch that did it. It's doubly ironic since 9/11 brought in all those sweeping chamges that have destroyed American society since then in the form of the Patriot Act and the like.
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Except the unity was largely surface-level since people were committing straight up hate crimes, and if you didn't think every man, woman, and child in the middle east deserved to die horribly you were on the side of the terrorists. I was in middle school, but I still saw and heard that shit from grown-ass adults.

For a lot of people, it really seemed like they were using 9/11 as an excuse to let their sociopathic side run wild.
 
Android raptor said:
Except the unity was largely surface-level since people were committing straight up hate crimes, and if you didn't think every man, woman, and child in the middle east deserved to die horribly you were on the side of the terrorists. I was in middle school, but I still saw and heard that shit from grown-ass adults.
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I guess people never chamge then. Just the targets for their vitriol.
 
White Devil said:
We never saw the body, only pictures of a bag dumped into the water.
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Very true. BUT. We do know Osama Bin Laden had a copy of Cars in his goon cave lol. That era was fucking mental man. It's when I first gave a shit about politics.
 
When Bin Laden got capped I remember seeing an SUV in the parking lot of Kroger painted with a bunch of crap like "THANK YOU GEORGE BUSH" and other insane conservaboomer shit. Fun times.

Also fun times how mad teachers would get if you didn't stand for the pledge. I stopped doing it by 8th grade and regret nothing. Even as a kid I though it was whack how the reaction to 9/11 was to blow trillions of dollars on blowing up brown people in countries that had nothing to do with 9/11. But oh no, if you thought something like that back then you clearly hated freedom and sided with terrorists!

I think being a kid and realizing both adults around you and in power were nothing but a bunch of retarded rage pigs that didn't actually give a fuck about anyone but themselves and were just using 9/11 as an excuse to rage pig numerous countries (including the US) into oblivion was disheartening, but eye-opening.
 
Android raptor said:
When Bin Laden got capped I remember seeing an SUV in the parking lot of Kroger painted with a bunch of crap like "THANK YOU GEORGE BUSH" and other insane conservaboomer shit. Fun times.

Also fun times how mad teachers would get if you didn't stand for the pledge. I stopped doing it by 8th grade and regret nothing. Even as a kid I though it was whack how the reaction to 9/11 was to blow trillions of dollars on blowing up brown people in countries that had nothing to do with 9/11. But oh no, if you thought something like that back then you clearly hated freedom and sided with terrorists!

I think being a kid and realizing both adults around you and in power were nothing but a bunch of retarded rage pigs that didn't actually give a fuck about anyone but themselves and were just using 9/11 as an excuse to rage pig numerous countries (including the US) into oblivion was disheartening, but eye-opening.
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We went after everyone except where the actual terrorists were from.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Bruh actually true. I was only a few months old when the planes hit. Growing up, the bush years and even a bit of Obama, we may not have seen it happen; we knew it did, because no one would joke around on 9/11. Everyone was happy in school when Osama got shot. It was a different time. In a way we were united. Now it's a joke and a day for New York to tell all the news stations to have wall to wall coverage of something that happened 22 years ago. I kinda just want to put it to rest. It feels like you're dancing on Graves at that point to milk those who remember.
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to add onto this, i remember watching a documentary a few months ago on comedy after 9/11. it might've been vice or some other youtube channel but 9/11 was one of those situations where you weren't sure if you could joke about it. despite the countless memes and jokes about it, 3,000 people died from the tragedy and a good amount of people jumped from the burning buildings to their death. how long should you wait to be able to joke about something serious? it was interesting question i hadn't thought about before

if you want my personal opinion, if it's been over 20 years at this point, you should be able to laugh at a bunch of terrorists crashing into buildings. however, i wouldn't be upset at someone who had family/friends die on 9/11 not laugh at the jokes.
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
to add onto this, i remember watching a documentary a few months ago on comedy after 9/11. it might've been vice or some other youtube channel but 9/11 was one of those situations where you weren't sure if you could joke about it. despite the countless memes and jokes about it, 3,000 people died from the tragedy and a good amount of people jumped from the burning buildings to their death. how long should you wait to be able to joke about something serious? it was interesting question i hadn't thought about before

if you want my personal opinion, if it's been over 20 years at this point, you should be able to laugh at a bunch of terrorists crashing into buildings. however, i wouldn't be upset at someone who had family/friends die on 9/11 not laugh at the jokes.
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As this day closes, I think I'd end it with this; comedy is how you heal from it. I get not everyone laughing, but the thing is, with me, I was a few months old half way across the country when it happened. I heard enough sorrow and bitterness and wars growing up from it. I'm ready to move on to a brighter future. Laugh about the time some 747's blew apart some skyscrapers. If you don't Laugh about it, you'll die suffering. That's my take.
 
White Devil said:
We never saw the body, only pictures of a bag dumped into the water.
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If there's one thing we know about Bin Laden, he's gonna find a way to get a tape/message out to his people. We never heard from him ever again.

Maybe the CIA just wanted to talk to him more?
 
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