Law A famous climate scientist is in court, with big stakes for attacks on science - They're trying to use the courts to stop any criticism of their bogus theories.

FEBRUARY 6, 20246:00 AM ET
By Julia Simon

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Michael Mann is a professor of Earth and Environmental Science at University of Pennsylvania. He's suing a right wing author and a policy analyst for defamation.
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In a D.C. courtroom, a trial is wrapping up this week with big stakes for climate science. One of the world's most prominent climate scientists is suing a right wing author and a policy analyst for defamation.

The case comes at a time when attacks on scientists are proliferating, says Peter Hotez, professor of Pediatrics and Molecular Virology at Baylor College of Medicine. Even as misinformation about scientists and their work keeps growing, Hotez says scientists haven't yet found a good way to respond.

"The reason we're sort of fumbling at this is it's unprecedented. And there is no roadmap," he says.

A famous graph becomes a target

The climate scientist at the center of this trial is Michael Mann. The Professor of Earth and Environmental Science at University of Pennsylvania gained prominence for helping make one of the most accessible, consequential graphs in the history of climate science.

First published in the late 1990s, the graph shows thousands of years of relatively stable global temperatures. Then, when humans start burning lots of coal and oil, it shows a spike upward. Mann's graph looks like a hockey stick lying on its side, with the blade sticking straight up.

The so-called "hockey stick graph" was successful in helping the public understand the urgency of global warming, and that made it a target, says Kert Davies, director of special investigations at the Center for Climate Integrity, a climate accountability nonprofit. "Because it became such a powerful image, it was under attack from the beginning," he says.

The attacks came from groups that reject climate science, some funded by the fossil fuel industry. In the midst of these types of attacks - including the hacking of Mann's and other scientists' emails by unknown hackers - Penn State, where Mann was then working, opened an investigation into his research. Penn State, as well as the National Science Foundation, found no evidence of scientific misconduct. But a policy analyst and an author wrote that they were not convinced.

The trial, more than a decade in the making

The trial in D.C. Superior Court involves posts from right wing author Mark Steyn and policy analyst Rand Simberg. In an online post, Simberg compared Mann to former Penn State Football coach Jerry Sandusky, a convicted child sex abuser. Simberg wrote that Mann was the "Sandusky of climate science" writing that Mann "molested and tortured data." Steyn called Mann's research fraudulent.

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The hockey stick graph, based on research from Michael Mann and other scientists, helped make global warming accessible to a wide audience. It was featured in part in the documentary An Inconvenient Truth. The graph also became a target for climate deniers.
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Mann sued the two men for defamation. Mann also sued the publishers of the posts, National Review and the Competitive Enterprise Institute, but in 2021, the court ruled they couldn't be held liable.

In court, Mann has argued he lost funding and research opportunities. Steyn said in court that if Penn State's president, Graham Spanier, covered up child sexual assault why wouldn't he cover up for Mann's science. The science in question used ice cores and tree rings to estimate Earth's past temperatures.

"If Graham Spanier is prepared to cover up child rape, week in, week out, year in, year out, why would he be the least bit squeamish about covering up a bit of hanky panky with the tree rings and the ice cores?" Steyn asked the court.

Mann and Steyn declined to speak to NPR during the ongoing trial. One of Simberg's lawyers, Victoria Weatherford, said "inflammatory does not equal defamatory" and that her client is allowed to express his opinion, even if it were wrong.

"No matter how offensive or distasteful or heated it is," Weatherford tells NPR, "that speech is absolutely protected under the First Amendment when it's said against a public figure, if the person saying it believed that what they said was true."

Many scientists under attack

Mann isn't the only climate scientist facing attacks, says Lauren Kurtz, executive director of the Climate Science Legal Defense Fund.

"We help more scientists every year than the year before," Kurtz says, "We actually broke a record in 2023. We helped over 50 researchers."

Dozens of climate scientists from the federal government have contacted her group in recent years, many alleging they were censored under the Trump administration. During his presidency Donald Trump denied the science of climate change and pulled the U.S. out of the U.N. Paris Climate Agreement addressing global warming.

But while climate researchers were early targets of people rejecting peer-reviewed science, now those attacks have spread to biomedical scientists, supercharged by the COVID-19 pandemic. Kurtz says while they primarily provide legal defense for climate researchers, they've recently heard from COVID-19 researchers, too.

Hotez worries about the ramifications for the future of science and medicine. He says: "Young people, looking at future careers, looking at how scientists are attacked are going to say, 'Well, why do I want to go into this profession?'"

Solutions for attacks on scientists

Hotez says he's glad Mann is fighting back in court. But he doesn't think a bunch of lawsuits is a sustainable solution. And he says he wants to keep working in the lab.

"We have a new human hookworm vaccine that'll come online soon," he says, "That's how I want to spend my time. I don't want to spend my day making cold calls to plaintiff lawyers."

Imran Ahmed, chief executive at the Center for Countering Digital Hate, says any response has to include social media companies as that's where attacks on scientists happen every day. Research finds that social media platforms can encourage the spread of scientific and medical misinformation.

Hotez says he and Mann are working on an upcoming project, collaborating on what they see as overlap in attacks on climate science and biomedicine, and how to counter it.

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I don't think you guys understand how actually weird it is for the Climate Science Legal Defense Fund to exist. It's not just weird, it's fucking bonkers. Fields of science don't need legal defense funds. At least not in this fucking nature. The most these organizations do in other capacities are liability claims and damages during experiments and other inter-industry legal disputes. They don't fucking exist in capacity for defamation.

It's not "wierd" to me.
This type of lawfare is straight out of the DNC playbook.
They've amped it up into overdrive recently because they've realized courts in DC and NY in particular no longer care about facts and will happily jump the empire state building for the chance to jail and/or bankrupt those evil, dirty, knuckle-dragging republican hitlers.
 
This is what aloggers say every time they swat a lolcow or work to get him evicted or fired.
Had Mann not sued, the articles that Mark Steyn write would mostly be forgotten. These were opinion pieces where Steyn was making fun of Mann’s self-importance and shoddy work. You know, like opinion writers do.
I don't think you guys understand how actually weird it is for the Climate Science Legal Defense Fund to exist. It's not just weird, it's fucking bonkers. Fields of science don't need legal defense funds. At least not in this fucking nature. The most these organizations do in other capacities are liability claims and damages during experiments and other inter-industry legal disputes. They don't fucking exist in capacity for defamation.
We are decades into it now, but I lived through the development of ”Global Warming” from a PR campaign to a complete takeover of institutions.

If you are younger, you don’t know what the world was like before. Even having lived through it, it’s disorienting to think about how climate communism has been instrumental to a lot of the societal rot we’re currently dealing with.
 
We are decades into it now, but I lived through the development of ”Global Warming” from a PR campaign to a complete takeover of institutions.

So did I, and I remember it from the Reagan administration forward.
Yes, i'm fucking old enough to remember the entire list of failed predictions that were proselytized to me.

And yet, with each failed doomsday prediction, the climate chicken littles were granted more and more credibility and public policy altered to make the poor poorer and everything more expensive, then eventually the "climate change" policies became so invasive and dysfunctional we began experiencing brown-outs across entire states due to lack of power generation, and Biden's psychos literally froze hundreds of texans to death rather than allow Texas to generate the power required to keep them alive through a blizzard.

Now we face this censorship machine, and I have zero confidence in this D.C. court to rule on the facts given the Trump cases and everything else.
I'm preparing myself for bad news on this one and YEARS of appeals.
 
Had Mann not sued, the articles that Mark Steyn write would mostly be forgotten. These were opinion pieces where Steyn was making fun of Mann’s self-importance and shoddy work. You know, like opinion writers do.

We are decades into it now, but I lived through the development of ”Global Warming” from a PR campaign to a complete takeover of institutions.

If you are younger, you don’t know what the world was like before. Even having lived through it, it’s disorienting to think about how climate communism has been instrumental to a lot of the societal rot we’re currently dealing with.
I'm old enough to know the world was supposed to end at least 10 times by now as prophesized by that faggot Al Gore. I'm old enough to know they had to change the name from global warming to climate change because winter existing was too much for their narrative. The defense funds was just something I've never seen.
 
Yeah, so this is definitely pseudo-science.
Isn't it interesting how the data changed right around the same time they changed the way they measured the data? Surely there's no explanation for this phenomenon other than "we're all doomed unless you give climate scientists infinity dollars".
I'm old enough to know the world was supposed to end at least 10 times by now as prophesized by that faggot Al Gore. I'm old enough to know they had to change the name from global warming to climate change because winter existing was too much for their narrative. The defense funds was just something I've never seen.
Obligatory link to the extinction clock
 
If carbon in the atmosphere makes the planet warmer, what about photovoltaic panels that trap light which otherwise might reflect back into space?
WHOA. WHOA. Fuck you science denier. Those are illegal thoughts. The ONLY APPROVED scientific method is for you to purchase your carbon credits, register your thermometer to the government controlled climate approved household temperature, buy your EV, and move to a 15 minute city. It's the right thing to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF YOU DONT DO THIS YOURE A BAD PERSON AND NEED TO BE GENOCIDED
 
If carbon in the atmosphere makes the planet warmer, what about photovoltaic panels that trap light which otherwise might reflect back into space?
Oddly enough, that is a real issue. Albedo changes created by large solar panels can affect local conditions quite significantly. They generate updrafts, but they also trap heat underneath the panels, which draws moisture out of the soil. The net result can be a column of moist air rising up and generating rain downwind form the solar panels. You get a similar effect from wind turbines, though by a different mechanism (the turbines induce intense mixing, which increases precipitation and temperature downwind as latent heat is released by the rainfall).

There was talk of exploiting this exact effect, in 2018, to increase rainfall over the Sahara. Now they deny it even happens.

As fior Michael Mann; the public figure argument rests on the fact that he has been pushing himself into the forefront of the climate debate for decades. He pursues publicity whenever he has the chance. He made himself a public figure in this way, by drawing attention to himself at every opportunity, to the point of claiming that he won a nobel prize when it was actually awarded to his university department.
 
Oddly enough, that is a real issue. Albedo changes created by large solar panels can affect local conditions quite significantly. They generate updrafts, but they also trap heat underneath the panels, which draws moisture out of the soil. The net result can be a column of moist air rising up and generating rain downwind form the solar panels. You get a similar effect from wind turbines, though by a different mechanism (the turbines induce intense mixing, which increases precipitation and temperature downwind as latent heat is released by the rainfall).

There was talk of exploiting this exact effect, in 2018, to increase rainfall over the Sahara. Now they deny it even happens.
Also they just FRY the poor birds.
 
Center for Countering Digital Hate, says any response has to include social media companies as that's where attacks on scientists happen every day
Stop criticizing your betters, goy.
An author who has to resort to “there was a child predator employed by this university too” has zero credibility imo.
This isnt the argument. The argument is that a university official willing to disregard the truth in such a matter would have little to no problem doing the same thing in a less serious circumstance. They have zero credibility.
I'm old enough to know they had to change the name from global warming to climate change because winter existing was too much for their narrative
When I started school, they were still parroting the Coming Ice Age narrative. They also told me that acid rain was going to melt our synthetic fabric clothes right off our backs. Needless to say, neither occurred.
 
Oddly enough, that is a real issue. Albedo changes created by large solar panels can affect local conditions quite significantly. They generate updrafts, but they also trap heat underneath the panels, which draws moisture out of the soil. The net result can be a column of moist air rising up and generating rain downwind form the solar panels. You get a similar effect from wind turbines, though by a different mechanism (the turbines induce intense mixing, which increases precipitation and temperature downwind as latent heat is released by the rainfall).

There was talk of exploiting this exact effect, in 2018, to increase rainfall over the Sahara. Now they deny it even happens.

As fior Michael Mann; the public figure argument rests on the fact that he has been pushing himself into the forefront of the climate debate for decades. He pursues publicity whenever he has the chance. He made himself a public figure in this way, by drawing attention to himself at every opportunity, to the point of claiming that he won a nobel prize when it was actually awarded to his university department.
Yeah I suspect that the energy the panels intentionally trap do actually add to the total amount of energy stored in the earth’s atmosphere.

It’s also retarded to complain about atmospheric carbon because it offsets itself by making plants grow better with less water. You need a high carbon atmosphere to reverse desertification
 
Ah yes, Michael Mann and his "my dog ate my data, just believe me we're all gonna die from global warming" Science.

When this shit started he had people on his own side who just wanted to look at the raw data, so they could rub the noses of any doubters in how accurate it was. Except... it wasn't there. The raw data was completely gone, only cherry-picked data and his calculations for the infamous hockey stick remained. Those secondary researchers trying to validate his claims were the ones who realized that his calculations were so bug-fucked you could put anything in and it would spit out a hockey stick, and the data was so cherry-picked that there was only data from like 5 out of the hundreds of trees he supposedly took core samples from.

At best interpretation he's an idiot, at worst he's actively corrupt.
 
Had Mann not sued, the articles that Mark Steyn write would mostly be forgotten. These were opinion pieces where Steyn was making fun of Mann’s self-importance and shoddy work. You know, like opinion writers do.
I think at this point they mostly have been, until publicity reignites interest in it, and now I'm very interested in hearing about much of a dishonest faggot Mann is since apparently this takedown was so colon-crucifying that he's been suing for over 10 years about it. :story:

I'm sure it will dovetail nicely with how for decades the NOAA has been falsify-I'm sorry, "correcting" data, and pulls data from sensors that are placed in areas that are abnormally warm like in cities to make sure the average does what they want it to so the sweet climate money keeps flowing.
 
Globohomo the science priest, did you know more carbon leads to more trees which lead to more oxygen which make giant bugs?

Stop trying to halt the CO2. Thibk of all the bugs you can forcefeed to goyim. Would you take dog sized roaches away from Android Raptor? Bad the science priest.
 
Lol That hack?! Wasn't his "stick" discredited almost a decade ago? Then by reality multiple times after.

This shit is sinister either way though. If he wins it will turn on it's face the entire concept of scientific inquiry and freedom.


I don't think you guys understand how actually weird it is for the Climate Science Legal Defense Fund to exist. It's not just weird, it's fucking bonkers. Fields of science don't need legal defense funds. At least not in this fucking nature. The most these organizations do in other capacities are liability claims and damages during experiments and other inter-industry legal disputes. They don't fucking exist in capacity for defamation.

This too!
That's because so-called "climate science" isn't a science at all. It's an ideology and religion. Reminder that in the 90s and early 00s the professional orgs behind the actual scientists who track and investigate climate like aspect of weather, multiple times had the thousands of members vote to reject the concept outright. And were then punished politically, with the media, journals, public schools and even government agencies basically blacklisting and de-legitimizing them. They then went about creating an entirely new field ("climatology") which explicitly existed on the assertion that human climate change was real and beyond questioning. Think about that for a moment.. That would be like firing/discrediting geology and planetary science, then creating a flat earth scientific profession to study the facts of the earth being flat.
 
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