A Final Solution to the Wiki Question

[polonium]

Considering how much time we spend dunking on Reddit and Something Awful for their heavy-handed moderation, people sure are keen to vest everything into the hands of the moderators here.

The more automatic the process is the better, IMO, but maybe there can be a colour for informative/agree posts (say blue) and another for like/winner/semper fi (yellow) or something like that, so you can tell if it's content or a zinger. There's value in seeing both I feel.

 

[BarberFerdinand]

You mentioned you might set it up so both really high rated and really low rated posts might be toggled, which is a good idea. Considering how islaminc content is used by people, I can see a a post getting a lot of positive ratings and islamic content ratings simultaneously. Would they cancel each other out? Also, perhaps weight posts by persons of interest higher, since those can be good material. Just some ideas, seems like a neat plan overall, hope it works out.

 

[Immortal Technique]

Not sure why anyone is worried that a shit rating post might get a border. If it gets enough bad reactions to trigger a border; I'm sure it's worthy to laugh at and not with. Do people start new threads to not chuckle at things and think this is a hard hitting, straight info, investigative journalism site? Who cares if it's the cow or a moronic poster is providing the laughs.

 

[Looney Troons]

as someone who will get bored and spend a few hours while in the office trying to get lore on new cows, this is great. An ability to hide posts that have an excessive number of ‘dumb’ and ‘TMI’ ratings would be swell.

 

[Null]

as someone who will get bored and spend a few hours while in the office trying to get lore on new cows, this is great. An ability to hide posts that have an excessive number of ‘dumb’ and ‘TMI’ ratings would be swell.

I'm not going to hide posts based on a score. The reactions as it is poses a group think risk.

 

[Jack Awful]

We should have deputies who aren't mods but have proven they're good at compiling info and let them manually highlight/unhighlight important posts and edit the FP.

 

[Floop]

Are you aware this isn't actually reddit gold? Should I change the color to help people understand?

Make it have the texture of feces

 

[Keystone]

Should be an option that's set to "Off" by default. It should be easy, by frequent user standards, to find in the control board or something. I'd think (hope) that would deter drive by posters who show up during the Summer or Happenings from abusing it.

 

[GethN7]

It just occurred to me this post highlight idea can work in tandem with the restarting the actual wiki. With the important stuff highlighted, it's easier to gather information for the wiki and link to it instead of trawling through a shitload of pages and having to manually sort the wheat from the chaff.

Part of the wiki's problem was including relevant deets fast enough, the post highlight saves time in that regard.

 

[Keystone]

Are you aware this isn't actually reddit gold? Should I change the color to help people understand?

Yeah, actually. Maybe have it correspond to what theme people are using. Like if you use the Kawaii theme, the post would be highlighted in Purple. Halloween would be Orange, China theme would be Red, and so on. Maybe not the same shade of that color, but that color nonetheless.

 

[Jack Awful]

Yeah, actually. Maybe have it correspond to what theme people are using. Like if you use the Kawaii theme, the post would be highlighted in Purple. Halloween would be Orange, China theme would be Red, and so on. Maybe not the same shade of that color, but that color nonetheless.

You could just put a solid, bold border on it that has IMPORTANT written on the top edge.

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[The 3rd Hooligan]

Yeah, actually. Maybe have it correspond to what theme people are using. Like if you use the Kawaii theme, the post would be highlighted in Purple. Halloween would be Orange, China theme would be Red, and so on. Maybe not the same shade of that color, but that color nonetheless.

Maybe kiwi green?

 

[Toast Sandwich]

You could just put a solid, bold border on it that has IMPORTANT written on the top edge.

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Finally, a chance for the <blink> tag to truly shine

 

[Leibowitz]

Honestly I think the distinguishing feature should be more subtle than a gold border. Like turn the thread post # to gold text or something.

 

[lamp shade]

You could just put a solid, bold border on it that has IMPORTANT written on the top edge.

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I like it minus the “important post” banner.

 

[Keystone]

You could just put a solid, bold border on it that has IMPORTANT written on the top edge.

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Pretty good. But I'd go for "Highly Informative" or "Highly Relevant" or perhaps just "Informative/Relevant" as opposed to "Important Post" if only because you'll eventually get people who let that go to their heads. Personally if I was a new Kiwi part of a cow's thread and made posts that were considered "Informative" for good reasons, such as archiving or discovering relevant information to the cow, it'd encourage me to continue structuring my posts and conducting myself as informative instead of just making shitposts for funny ratings. Not that there's anything wrong with doing that that every so often, but still. I think most "veteran" posters understand that's the idea behind the Farms and don't need gold star ass pats to keep doing that, but it might just encourage new members to get with the program faster.

 

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Something that might help give an overview of the activity of a thread: A sort of page heat map. Highlight the numbers in the page navigation to different degrees, dependent on how many high-scoring posts there are in each page.

It doesn't address the wikification exactly but it could help navigation mid-thread feel less like a stabbing in the dark. For me anyway. I don't know how good it would sound to others.

It sounds good. If one thinks about the 'ideal' way to navigate through threads on this forum, especially for the real monster threads, it would probably look something like a sparkline with a sort of compressed time scale on the X axis and scores on the Y axis, where you could click within it to jump to a post. Difficult to implement at the DB side and harder on the web client side.

If the 'post score' calculations are not something that can be efficiently calculated from the base DB schema, and there needs to be some sort of delayed calculation of these, I feel like a good addition to the scoring, with a lower weight than post score, would be 'time since last post' (with a weight possibly scaled by 'posts x day' over the thread life)- thus picking up more of the posts that mark significant developments in a thread. Not all posts that 'wake up' a thread are good, some posts that add additional information to one that is very active are very good, but the 'post score' element would catch those.

 

[Haramburger]

I'm simply not doing that. I am not going to get people to curate 6 years of shit. If you read my prior post, I'm excluding off-topic as a whole because it operates under different logic.

I'm curious to see how the automatic process behaves in the ZQ thread; ideally it ought to highlight all the posts I selected for the OP(99% other users, not mine) but it's probably going to miss some underrated posts that are informative but didn't get enough reacts. If I made a direct link to each of those good posts and submitted it to a mod for bordering, that would be great but I understand not trusting community or staff members to not drop the ball or mislabel some posts somewhere in the process.

Are you aware this isn't actually reddit gold? Should I change the color to help people understand?

Yes, you should customize it for the Ratking board:

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

OK, so now we've got the Pot of Gold...now all we're missing is the four-leaf-clover to have the full marshmallow set, right?

 

[Jack Awful]

I'm still not 100% on automation and think you should assign autists- I mean trusted users to moderate it. Like, what do you do if there's several important posts within the same n pages?