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So I like many people hate the state of Israel for reasons that I don't feel the need to explain because you already know why and I can't convince you otherwise and that isn't even the point of this.
However, I despise the majority of anti-Israel "activists" in the West. It is obvious that they don't oppose Israel for any philosophically sound reason. Instead, they do so either because:
A) They think it benefits White people (even though it doesn't) while simultaneously hating White people; or
B) They see it as the "cool" or morally superior thing to do.
I enjoy trolling these people and making them chimp out at their ability to defend a cause they are passionate about. The apex of this is getting them to defend Israel, I know this sounds like a tedious larp but you don't even have to lie or use stupid hypotheticals to do this. What I do is I talk with them for a little bit and get them to lower their guard and make them think they are in like minded company. Then I drop the bomb on them by telling them this.
Israel is a Jewish supremacist state
Yes this post was leading to this. I know most people here would agree with this statement or at least would not be offended by it, but trust me this alone will get any "anti Zionist" leftist to defend Israel like AIPAC was paying them.
The idea that Israel is a Jewish supremacist state isn't wrong at all. Well Jewish supremacy is the belief that Jews are superior to non Jews. The state of Israel clearly believes this. Rabbi Yaccov Perrin (who mind you was an official rabbi for the state of Israel) said that a Jewish fingernail is wroth more then the lives of 1000 Arabs. In a similiar statment Israeli military Captain. Daniel Hatniel serving as deputy of Israel’s West Bank intelligence command & ex-spox of an MK “The little finger of a soldier of ours is worth as much of Gaza… Amalek like Hamas symbolize an idea.. There must not be one of the Amalek left on earth”. Israel genocides Arabs in what the ICC has ruled a genocide.. Israel's Hannibal directive allows for the use of "all means" to save captured Israelis including the killing of civilians. Recently the IDF killed IIRC 86 Palestinian civilians to save 1 Jew. The most blatant in written law example of this is the fact that Israel passed a law recently stating that only Jews have the right to self determination.
Leftist believe that America is a White supremacist nation (a laughable assertion that I think even the leftist on this forum would not take seriously) Most This is more blatant explicit White supremacy then anything America has done in the 21st century. Leftist use Trump's statement about very fine people on both sides is an endorsement of White supremacy then shouldn't the statement "1 jew is worth more then 1000 Arabs" be a statement of Jewish supremacy ?
Leftist also believe that Israel is a White supremacist state. This makes even less sense then the same claim about America. Anti Zionist see Ashkenazi Jews as White people. I have my own thoughts on that (as do most Ashkenazis because they clearly don't see themselves as White or European) but I will accept this premise for the sake of argument. Even in that case . What does Israel do for white people that are not Jewish ? What does Israel do for say Germans,Poles,Italians,Serbs,Russians,Croats or Irishman ? Any Jewish person can go to Israel and get all sorts of perks, Israel will straight up give you free houses stolen from Palestinians in the settlements. Ben Gvir the former minister of war was an Iraqi Jew. Mizrahi Jews are the most nationalist and the main support base of Likud while Ashkenazis tend to be more progressive and cosmopolitan. Mizrahi Jews are the majority of Israel we have seen the lengths Israel goes to in ordered to keep out Palestinians so if Israel were Aski supremacist they would keep out Mizrahi Jews with the same tactics yet they don't. To recap If it is white supremacy not Jewish supremacy then why does the Israeli government benefit all Jews but not all Whites ? How comes brown Mizrahi Jews get benefits from the Israeli state but White Britons don't ?
After you lay out these arguments the anti Zionist will panic, because they are allowed to hate White people until the cows come home and have tried to blame all the problems with Israel Palestine on White people, however Jews are still special and they go to such lengths to defend them, a courtesy they never extend to any other group they deem to be oppressive.
With queer liberation, the queer activist explicitly says they do not care what straight people think and they will not deny who they are for heteronormative sensibilities With Black liberation the Black activist straight up says he does not care what white people think and he will take the power by force weather whites like it or not with no concern for their feelings. With zionism though, anti Zionist make it a key point to try and take into account the feelings of Jews and it's no wonder why anti zionism has been less successful.
However, I despise the majority of anti-Israel "activists" in the West. It is obvious that they don't oppose Israel for any philosophically sound reason. Instead, they do so either because:
A) They think it benefits White people (even though it doesn't) while simultaneously hating White people; or
B) They see it as the "cool" or morally superior thing to do.
I enjoy trolling these people and making them chimp out at their ability to defend a cause they are passionate about. The apex of this is getting them to defend Israel, I know this sounds like a tedious larp but you don't even have to lie or use stupid hypotheticals to do this. What I do is I talk with them for a little bit and get them to lower their guard and make them think they are in like minded company. Then I drop the bomb on them by telling them this.
Israel is a Jewish supremacist state
Yes this post was leading to this. I know most people here would agree with this statement or at least would not be offended by it, but trust me this alone will get any "anti Zionist" leftist to defend Israel like AIPAC was paying them.
The idea that Israel is a Jewish supremacist state isn't wrong at all. Well Jewish supremacy is the belief that Jews are superior to non Jews. The state of Israel clearly believes this. Rabbi Yaccov Perrin (who mind you was an official rabbi for the state of Israel) said that a Jewish fingernail is wroth more then the lives of 1000 Arabs. In a similiar statment Israeli military Captain. Daniel Hatniel serving as deputy of Israel’s West Bank intelligence command & ex-spox of an MK “The little finger of a soldier of ours is worth as much of Gaza… Amalek like Hamas symbolize an idea.. There must not be one of the Amalek left on earth”. Israel genocides Arabs in what the ICC has ruled a genocide.. Israel's Hannibal directive allows for the use of "all means" to save captured Israelis including the killing of civilians. Recently the IDF killed IIRC 86 Palestinian civilians to save 1 Jew. The most blatant in written law example of this is the fact that Israel passed a law recently stating that only Jews have the right to self determination.
Leftist believe that America is a White supremacist nation (a laughable assertion that I think even the leftist on this forum would not take seriously) Most This is more blatant explicit White supremacy then anything America has done in the 21st century. Leftist use Trump's statement about very fine people on both sides is an endorsement of White supremacy then shouldn't the statement "1 jew is worth more then 1000 Arabs" be a statement of Jewish supremacy ?
Leftist also believe that Israel is a White supremacist state. This makes even less sense then the same claim about America. Anti Zionist see Ashkenazi Jews as White people. I have my own thoughts on that (as do most Ashkenazis because they clearly don't see themselves as White or European) but I will accept this premise for the sake of argument. Even in that case . What does Israel do for white people that are not Jewish ? What does Israel do for say Germans,Poles,Italians,Serbs,Russians,Croats or Irishman ? Any Jewish person can go to Israel and get all sorts of perks, Israel will straight up give you free houses stolen from Palestinians in the settlements. Ben Gvir the former minister of war was an Iraqi Jew. Mizrahi Jews are the most nationalist and the main support base of Likud while Ashkenazis tend to be more progressive and cosmopolitan. Mizrahi Jews are the majority of Israel we have seen the lengths Israel goes to in ordered to keep out Palestinians so if Israel were Aski supremacist they would keep out Mizrahi Jews with the same tactics yet they don't. To recap If it is white supremacy not Jewish supremacy then why does the Israeli government benefit all Jews but not all Whites ? How comes brown Mizrahi Jews get benefits from the Israeli state but White Britons don't ?
After you lay out these arguments the anti Zionist will panic, because they are allowed to hate White people until the cows come home and have tried to blame all the problems with Israel Palestine on White people, however Jews are still special and they go to such lengths to defend them, a courtesy they never extend to any other group they deem to be oppressive.
With queer liberation, the queer activist explicitly says they do not care what straight people think and they will not deny who they are for heteronormative sensibilities With Black liberation the Black activist straight up says he does not care what white people think and he will take the power by force weather whites like it or not with no concern for their feelings. With zionism though, anti Zionist make it a key point to try and take into account the feelings of Jews and it's no wonder why anti zionism has been less successful.
