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Hey, someone from ED is here! This is cool. Are we going to get representatives from every internet community that used to be relevant? I wonder who'll show up from GeoCities...
 
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Hey, someone from ED is here! This is cool. Are we going to get representatives from every internet community that used to be relevant? I wonder who'll show up from GeoCities...
our 1.5 million unique visitors a month must mean we're pretty irrelevant, right?
 
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our 1.5 million unique visitors a month must mean we're pretty irrelevant, right?

It's not really a community as much as it's a bunch of butthurt 14 year olds writing cringe-worthy articles about someone who wronged them and chuckling at how hilarious and witty they are.

To call ED a community is making very liberal of the word 'community'. It requires a little more communicating, besides "lol ur a fag; banned".
 
It's not really a community as much as it's a bunch of butthurt 14 year olds writing cringe-worthy articles about someone who wronged them and chuckling at how hilarious and witty they are.
this is true, whenever you read an article you have to remember that whoever wrote it obviously had personal reasons to do it, generally because the person in question made them mad

'fuck you i'll write an article about you on ED'
 
@Likeicare I like how the EDF thread about us got derailed by some suicide bating faggot lol are people really taking that shit seriously? I know you're not but it's pretty funny if you ask me.
the guy is a legit schizo so it might be possible, some of the shit he has been PMing me lately makes me believe he quite possibly may have

but yeah i won't believe it's happened until it's proven to me

either way it's hilarious
 
our 1.5 million unique visitors a month must mean we're pretty irrelevant, right?
How does that compare to last year, or the year before? ED keeps getting tossed aside because of incompetent, temperamental trollshielders that can't mentally cope with the fact they only run the site to try and make themselves invincible to it.

I used ED when I was a teenager because I didn't understand things and wanted to know what they were about. "Why do people ask me if I like Mudkip?" "When did raiding Habbo Hotel even start?" "Who the fuck is moot?". Nobody does that anymore. You don't go to ED to figure weird shit out, you go to Know your Meme or something. Sherrod understood that ED was a fad that was bound to die the second that everyone grew up and stopped finding memetic humor in articles about memetic humor to be funny.

The problem is that your site never grew up. It never changed. It never found a new beat to walk. Instead of adapting to a broader audience or streamlining things so that it at least could champion the throne of Internet Drama respectably, ED sort of took on this misshapen form. It gives off vibes that no one who knows what they were doing is taking care of it.

My article is a great example of that. There is drama about me, there is stuff worth keeping quiet about, but because of how pouty the article is written, no one takes it seriously. When you let people make shit up and just say whatever they want, it hurts the entire article. The first thing people see reading about me is this hilariously over the top, borderline Dr. Evil chatlog about getting off to maimed children and you just can't take it seriously. I've never had anyone read that shit and go "my opinion on you has changed". Nobody believes what is even true after reading something that is preposterous. When the guy who made that quote even tried to take it out, a sysop reverted it and locked the page.

And that's your problem. You don't want to write interesting articles and chronicle drama, ED is exclusively a LiveJournal for people with boo-hoo and sob-sobs to write about. "The kiwi farms are mean because they closed the enter board! Null is mean because he banned me. I'm gonna make them pay, you'll see, I'll write about it in my journal Encyclopedia Dramatica!" No adult or neutral party is going to read what is written about me and how it is written and assume that it's true. You don't even use an alias I actively go by as the article title, it's just some random shit thrown in there.

Compare these two articles. Tell me which one you think is more trustworthy.
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Kiwi_Farms
https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Marjan_Šiklić

If you're going to say, "well, ED isn't about being honest, it's about teh lulz!", then what the fuck's the point? If nobody uses ED for understanding Internet culture because KYM exists, is much larger, is much more accurate, and gives more details -- and nobody can trust ED because it's essentially the chronicles of ass pain now, what role does it serve? It found a quaint niche with GamerGate and that was quickly replaced by their own wiki because even they didn't want to contribute to the articles anymore. The 1.5M unique hits are more about ED's massive fingerprint. What is the bounce rate on these articles? How many people spend more than 30 seconds on a page? I'm sure the majority of your "normal" traffic is scared off by the popups and malware ads. You can't even ruin someone's life with ED anymore because they're not going to stay on the article.


This is why I wanted to try making my own. The forum generates a ton of raw content, but we have no outlet for it. Stuff gets lost and forgotten, people miss big events or rejoin a thread weeks later after absence and have no idea what's going on, etc, and nobody writes to ED anymore because of all the shit I just mentioned. The best threads have very comprehensive OPs that keep people up to date, but that is the very reason why Wikis exist. I never got to complete my concept for the LCW because I quit my job around the same time, but when I'm a bit more stable and my startups are going, I'll try again. If a wiki and the forum were linked, I think it would propel growth immensely.
 
stuff, most of which i didn't read
1. I don't write the articles (ive written literally one, https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Sharky), the majority existed before i even joined the site, i just add to the chaotic in-fighting and oversee other people trying to cause shit.
2. I have my own article, none of the stuff in it is true. People should be smart enough to figure out what is realistic or not.
3. who doesn't have adblock on
4. you have to stop assuming i am responsible for every thing that happens on that site
 
"We don't care what anyone thinks."
"We do it for the lulz!"

"Our website is not irrelevant and you are wrong to say that it is!"
 
1. I don't write the articles (ive written literally one, https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Sharky), the majority existed before i even joined the site, i just add to the chaotic in-fighting and oversee other people trying to cause shit.
Yeah, no one writes articles. That's the problem. You only write to ED out of frustration, not intrigue.

2. I have my own article, none of the stuff in it is true. People should be smart enough to figure out what is realistic or not.
What's the point of the website then?

3. who doesn't have adblock on
Anyone who would take the site seriously in a way that would matter to someone interested in life ruining tactics (i.e. an employer).

4. you have to stop assuming i am responsible for every thing that happens on that site
I know what I write will be read by someone who is.


The site is doing just fine. Thanks for your concern.
I'm just explaining why everyone I know has stopped using the website for more than a casual inquiry (maybe once a month). Imagine if I took this approach when I am dealt criticism. "No, the forum is fine, thanks for your concern." It doesn't work. There are problems with the site and there are problems with ED. Being intentionally oblivious to those things doesn't help.

There are no insecurities here. ED is a pillar of internet history and we will ensure that the site stays up forever.
Yeah, and Space Jam is still up. That doesn't make it relevant or good.

If your primary concern is only keeping the site up, carry on. I don't tell you your business.
 
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I'm just explaining why everyone I know has stopped using the website for more than a casual inquiry (maybe once a month). Imagine if I took this approach when I am dealt criticism. "No, the forum is fine, thanks for your concern." It doesn't work. There are problems with the site and there are problems with ED. Being intentionally oblivious to those things doesn't help.

People grow out of it, that's fine. We have new accounts and new articles being written every day. As for the quality, some are good, some are bad. The concept behind the site is that anyone can write for it, we refuse to become a TOW police state when it comes to quality control because that impacts the user experience. Bad articles get swept under the rug, and sometimes they get improved.

We aren't getting paid for our efforts and because of our content, the only people willing to pay us for advertising are blackhats and pornographers. Keeping the site up is a task in of itself. We catch a new lawsuit every 3 months. We're in the crosshairs of every snot-nosed skid looking to make a name for himself. Our servers cost over $300 a month and often that comes out of our own pockets.

If you're not happy with the content, it is completely user-generated so you have the ability to help fix that. Complaining about it relegates you to armchair coach and doesn't accomplish anything.
 
@Null i'm going to go into serious mode now because ED means lot to me and you don't seem to understand it

you're comparing your site to ours, and they're two completely different universes

your site is dedicated to documenting every thing as it happens, ED is a wealth of historical information that just grows in time. We don't pretend to be anything other than what we are.

quite simply that after 10 years of not changing, every day there is new content, new members and just the fact that there are thousands of people that want to read what we've got, is all that we ever want
 
Personally I think it's silly to compare ED to KYM or Kiwi. ED is what it is and I wouldn't want it to be anything else. I remember when Sherrod took it down ; even though ED was just a site I visited maybe once a month, I felt hurt. I felt like a part of the internet had just been killed, a good part, and that nothing would be able to come along and replace it. Thankfully it started right back up again and OhInternet died a protracted and shameful death, just like it deserved.

But ED isn't the internet's foremost Meme Encyclopedia anymore. KYM is a million times better at that. ED isn't the internet's foremost Lolcow Encylopedia anymore. Lolcow Wiki is already a million times better at that. That doesn't matter. ED is just ED, and even though I'm not an ED user, even though I might go months without looking at an ED article and probably bounce within 10 minutes when I do, for all it's faults and failings, ED is still ED. It's an old internet institution, and I'd feel bad if it wasn't around anymore.

ED is what it is. It shouldn't try to be anything else, and nothing else should try to be ED. God bless it.
 
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