A trans software engineer is trying to take Kiwi Farms offline with new Australian internet powers - Ex Google tranny mad

https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/09/02/kiwi-farms-cloudflare-liz-fong-jones-internet-law/

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A trans software engineer is trying to take Kiwi Farms offline with new Australian internet powers​

A former Google engineer has requested Australia's eSafety Commissioner take action against far-right forum Kiwi Farms.

CAM WILSON
SEP 02, 2022

A software engineer is trying to take offline the far-right hate website Kiwi Farms using new Australian internet powers, thanks to the online forum’s little-known connections to the country.
Liz Fong-Jones, who is trans, is a former Google engineer who has been targeted and trolled by Kiwi Farms users in the past.
The nearly decade-old US website is notorious for hosting hate content — including the Christchurch mass killer’s footage and other terrorist manifestos — and coordinating harassment, stalking and revealing private information about people (known as “doxxing”).


Kiwi Farms members have relentlessly bullied people who’ve expressed suicidal ideation, often picking on marginalised groups. Multiple suicides have been linked to the forum.

Last month, a major Canadian trans Twitch streamer called Keffals (real name Clara Sorrenti) campaigned to take Kiwi Farms offline after someone used her details revealed on the forum to send a fake email threatening mass violence. Keffals was subsequently arrested and detained before being cleared.

Since then, Keffals has led a #DropKiwiFarms campaign against Cloudflare, an internet infrastructure company whose services protect Kiwi Farms from distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks.

Cloudflare’s continuing support has played a crucial role in keeping Kiwi Farms online. Earlier this week, the company suggested in a company blog that it wouldn’t pull its services in response to public pressure.

Kiwi Farms’ Australian connections​

Fong-Jones has asked Australia’s internet censor, the eSafety Commissioner, to take action against Kiwi Farms — something that’s possible because of its previously undiscovered connections to Australia.

Earlier this week, Fong-Jones submitted a complaint to the Office of the eSafety Commissioner that claimed Kiwi Farms hosts terrorist and cyber abuse content.

Under the recently passed Online Safety Act, the eSafety Commissioner can request that companies block abhorrent violent-conduct material (such as the depiction of terrorist acts) and remove adult cyber abuse material — refusing to can result in fines of $550,000.

This typically wouldn’t be a problem for a US-hosted website outside of Australia’s jurisdiction. However, Fong-Jones claims that Kiwi Farms operates using an IP address leased to an Australian shell company by the regional internet address registry the Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC). Kiwi Farms is operated by American company 1776 Solutions LLC. This company uses IP space assigned from Australian company Flow Chemical Pty Ltd, which does not appear to use its delegation of addresses for anything else.

Additionally, Cloudflare is also subject to Australian jurisdiction due to its physical presence in the country. Not only does Cloudflare have an arm in Australia, but it also owns physical servers here too.

In layman’s terms, Cloudflare’s DDoS protection operates by keeping local copies of customers’ server information in servers around the world. This means that it is, in effect, hosting the same content as Kiwi Farm’s self-hosting and may be subject to the Online Safety Act provisions too.

Both Cloudflare and a director for Flow Chemical Pty Ltd have been contacted for comment.

Fong-Jones has asked the eSafety Commissioner to request that APNIC withdraw 1776 Solutions’ hosting, taking Kiwi Farms offline around the world, and to order CloudFlare to stop caching Kiwi Farms — or face enforcement actions. Both companies have Australian directors who could be subject to those fines.

Fong-Jones told Crikey that she had received a receipt of her complaint from the office. A spokesperson for the Office of the eSafety Commissioner didn’t confirm or deny that they had received a complain. They told Crikey that they don’t discuss the details of an investigation.

Fong-Jones said she chose to act when she saw what was happening to Keffals.

“Australia has some of the strongest online speech restrictions in the world. I wanted to know why we couldn’t use these tools for some good to prevent violence and harassment and all the things they said their powers could be used for,” she told me in an interview.

“This is a litmus test for those laws.”

Fong-Jones and Keffals are also organising a protest outside of Cloudflare’s Connect conference in Sydney next week.

“It’s time to show the leadership at Cloudflare that this is not going to go away. It’s time to stand up against hate,” she said

Update: The article originally incorrectly stated that the Office of the eSafety Commissioner had confirmed they had received a complaint.

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Australian media confirmed as two faced cunts. This same organisation just went begging for money from the public because Rupert Murdoch's sprog is suing them for defamation. They're claiming this lawsuit is just censorship wrapped as defamation.

"Censorship is only bad when it's against us"

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Don't editorialize article titles, even about retarded troons.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

I’ve been thinking a lot about pendulums swinging. It’ll be a shame for all those that supported and abetted dangerous medical procedures which have resulted in death.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

Didn't google get sick of her shit?

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Didn't google get sick of her shit?

Hard to say since no one bothers to ask why Elliot is an "ex-Google" employee.

 

[1988 prick]

he ain't gonna do anything.
just wake up, get fat, bitch on twitter then sleep.

 

[Account]

I seriously wonder what would happen if the Australian government forced APNIC to rescind service. A court battle? Cucking? WW3?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Yes, let's just start hacking away at the foundations that hold up the entire internet. Nothing could possibly go wrong!

 

[wyattamurcan]

If I had the money for a server, I'd host Kiwifarms and when shemales like Lucas tried to get me to take it down, I would email him a picture of my asshole with the caption "Ok groomer".

I may engage in a lot of nigger, shemale, and jew "hating" on here, but I have never, not once, made a threat of violence on here. Matter of fact, I've told people specifically to NOT resort to violence until the govt has done so first, so that we look like the poor embattled victims that are being persecuted by the most powerful govt on earth.

I have told people to take to the streets in protest, to engage in self-defense against the nigger & dangerhair mobs that would use violence against them to silence them, but I have not once ever encouraged drawing first blood on here. There is a time to use violence, and that's after you've had your blood drawn first. Then you defend yourself and your god-given rights with everything you've got for it is better to die on one's feet than live on one's knees.

If I was more autistic, I would challenge Lucas to a boxing match in which I would systematically dismantle him in front of the whole world, for charity. Just for the chance to pummel that troon freak in the ring, I would raise a donation for whatever bullshit leftist charity he wanted and if I win (which I would, easily, as I have an unfortunate amount of fighting experience), the rest of the money goes to a political group or charity of MY choosing.

Lucas is a faggot though, so he'd never go for it. All leftists are cowards.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Last month, a major Canadian trans Twitch streamer called Keffals (real name Clara Sorrenti)

No, his real name is Lucas Roberts. And you would know that if you read KiwiFarms.

 

[Retink]

So let me get this right, the West gave up all of its manufacturing power to Asia for free, gave up its energy independence to Russia, and now they want to give up their freedom of speech to Russia and co? I don't understand how this is supposed to make the West a better place when pseudo-dictatorships are becoming freer and more prosperous with the only benefit to the west being making some online retarded troons happy.

 

[GoutCrystals]

I may engage in a lot of nigger, shemale, and jew "hating" on here, but I have never, not once, made a threat of violence on here. Matter of fact, I've told people specifically to NOT resort to violence until the govt has done so first, so that we look like the poor embattled victims that are being persecuted by the most powerful govt on earth.

This is the most confusing part of this whole thing to me - the media keeps lying and calling KiwiFarms an extremist website where people are being radicalised to commit terror/crimes

It's the exact opposite. This place deradicalises people by getting them to chill the fuck out, realise the internet isn't srs bizness, and to just have a laugh at how totally fucking insane the subjects of the threads are.

I believe that a few people I know (online and IRL) have been through this process.

Previously, they'd been obsessed with a certain topic (Trump, trannies, Munchies, grifters etc) and been stuck in the Reddit hivemind just fixating on their topic of their obsession. Usually getting angrier and more obsessed as time goes on.

Eventually, they made their way over here thanks to the media freely publicising this as the most evil place on the internet. They had a lurk and either realised they are being MATI, that this behaviour is pathetic and they have chilled the fuck out themselves. Or they've behaved like spergs and had this community openly (and rightly) mock them for behaving like the same lolcows they claim to despise.

Either way the net result is that someone who was previously angry, frustrated and all consumed with internet negativity is able to come here to vent and just laugh it off instead.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

They have power over us because we’re Kiwi farmers, therefore as Kiwis, we are subject to their rules. Please put the N95 mask on, guys.

 

[wyattamurcan]

This is the most confusing part of this whole thing to me - the media keeps lying and calling KiwiFarms an extremist website where people are being radicalised to commit terror/crimes

Because to the media, simply posting the word "nigger" and complaining about them is a crime. Liberals believe in something called "hate speech", and they are trying to criminalize it as we speak. I've been to jail before. The chances of me committing ANY other crimes, let alone terror crimes are a literal -50%. Jail fucking blows and the legal system costs you a SHITLOAD of money, so there's no reason for any rational person to commit crimes at all.

(unless they are leftists or niggers, and know that they will not be held accountable for their crimes by (((Soros)))-backed prosecutors)

It's the exact opposite. This place deradicalises people by getting them to chill the fuck out, realise the internet isn't srs bizness, and to just have a laugh at how totally fucking insane the subjects of the threads are.

I didn't become a White nationalist until BLM and Antifa became a thing. They are the reason I post the way I do. If BLM and Antifa ceased to exist, and the left stopped attacking White people and Western Christian civilization, I'd stop being this way. They wanted to call me a "raycis" and a "Notzee"? Well OK then, I am fine with living up to those smears and don't give a shit anymore about being labeled as one. Matter of fact? I'm going to lean into it just to piss them off. Spite is my big motivation in life.

 

[Gottahavemysips]

This is the most confusing part of this whole thing to me - the media keeps lying and calling KiwiFarms an extremist website where people are being radicalised to commit terror/crimes

It's the exact opposite. This place deradicalises people by getting them to chill the fuck out, realise the internet isn't srs bizness, and to just have a laugh at how totally fucking insane the subjects of the threads are.

I believe that a few people I know (online and IRL) have been through this process.

Previously, they'd been obsessed with a certain topic (Trump, trannies, Munchies, grifters etc) and been stuck in the Reddit hivemind just fixating on their topic of their obsession. Usually getting angrier and more obsessed as time goes on.

Eventually, they made their way over here thanks to the media freely publicising this as the most evil place on the internet. They had a lurk and either realised they are being MATI, that this behaviour is pathetic and they have chilled the fuck out themselves. Or they've behaved like spergs and had this community openly (and rightly) mock them for behaving like the same lolcows they claim to despise.

Either way the net result is that someone who was previously angry, frustrated and all consumed with internet negativity is able to come here to vent and just laugh it off instead.

I'm not even sure if it's confusing at this point. This whole media blitz seems like it is designed to be kicking the metaphorical hornet's nest here. I could absolutely see a lot of the dumber troons not realizing that the farms being gone could increase the radicalization, but there's been plenty of powerful people commenting on it that should know better. I think this is a deliberate attack on dissenting internet speech.
This site does what it says on the box, laugh about weirdos on the internet. Yet, that crime has been determined to be worthy of an absolute smear job where these people pretend this is some kind of terrorist hub. I don't think this is an accident by misinformed retards anymore, I'm starting to believe that this may be intentionally malicious.

 

[Failed Lurker]

Ok, it's a generic definition from Google and removed the synonyms but:

terrorist
/ˈtɛrərɪst/

noun
a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

adjective
unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"a terrorist organization

Describes what these Transorists doing exactly what it says yet we're the harassment site?

It's beyond tiresome at this point but why does anyone listen to these mutilated mental cases?

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

“Australia has some of the strongest online speech restrictions in the world. I wanted to know why we couldn’t use these tools for some good to prevent violence and harassment and all the things they said their powers could be used for,” she told me in an interview.

If you’re so thin-skinned to rely on other nations to tell other Internet-based platforms what to do about your sensitive issues, then the problem is you not logging off, and not theirs.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Didn't google get sick of her shit?

*his
And yeah. He was too wacko even for Google.

If you’re so thin-skinned to rely on other nations to tell other Internet-based platforms what to do about your sensitive issues, then the problem is you not logging off, and not theirs.

The problem is for mentally-ill transsexuals like Elliot, the internet is their life. It's the only life they have. What they view as harassment, trolling, whatever is, in their minds, a threat to their very existence and lives, because being online is what their lives are. Of course, rather than point out how this is incredibly unhealthy and leads to mental instability, depression, and psychosis, and point out how these people need to get offline, we've got to bend over backwards to appease them because they're homosexual eunuchs who dress up like women, so somehow that puts them into a category that mandates unwavering adoration and respect from everyone else.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

Is this tranny really that well-connected? He was fired from Google, he ain't some hot shit.

 

[glass_houses]

Is this tranny really that well-connected? He was fired from Google, he ain't some hot shit.

It doesn't really matter. Australia has some pretty severe censorship laws. If someone gets their knickers in a twist, they'll take shit down rather than debate it.