A year ago today...

[Vault Boy]

It's why I never fully understand trolls remorse. Unless you've done something terrible like swat them, took money from them or trolled some memorial site like an "epic ween" I really don't understand where the feeling bad comes from.

Don't get me wrong I wish Chris nothing but the best, but I don't go around trying to stop trolls either. It is what it is. Maybe I'm just level-headed like that. Also, if you or I got trolled, who would feel bad for us?

Spoiler

no one.

and if we behaved like a lolcow, rightfully so.

I think people were feeling bad because of everything that transpired since Bob's death. Chris was steadily degrading into an insane tranny, he learned that his Galpals weren't sincere, his house almost burnt down, and yet another of his "Heartsweets" was a troll. I think they were willing to leave him be considering the circumstances, but then Chris fucked all that up with the December 26 event.

Whatever sympathy people had for him died when he vandalized a local GameStop and nearly maced an employee over something as idiotic as the Blue Arms in a non-canon Sonic spin-0ff. His total arrogance and sincere belief that he was the victim made him an even bigger douchebag than he already was. Couple all that with the insane shit he's been doing like the Oestrogel and various videos, and it's no wonder people are back to trolling him.

Like I said, he's his own worst enemy.

 

[Mecha-Lenin]

Only one year? huh, it feels longer than that.

 

[Null's Personal Cockwarmer]

Like I said, he's his own worst enemy.

Personally his greediness, at least to me, isn't helping him gain sympathy either.

What truly offended me was how he sold off his fathers belongings like a violin and such pretty much right after he died (after the housefire) to buy more worthless, plastic crap. What about nostalgic and emotional value? You can't put a price on that. But oh no, Chris can.

Then theres the housefire itself, Chris told Catherine, how he was all to willing to accept Barbara's explanation to why the house burned down. "Oh she was a hoarder she couldn't get rid of stuff, so God said here you go Barb housefire, that will help speed things up." What about a little self reflection Chris, wouldn't God have told you the same? But oh no, Chris wants all his plastic worthless crap back pronto, can't live without that.

I dunno, something about all that rubbed me the wrong way. I realize I normally do some excusing or explaining away Chris' behavior to put a positive spin on it, but not even the best spin-doctor could turn that around. And trust me, I don't get offended easily.

 

[Marvin]

What truly offended me was how he sold off his fathers belongings like a violin and such pretty much right after he died (after the housefire) to buy more worthless, plastic crap. What about nostalgic and emotional value? You can't put a price on that. But oh no, Chris can.

Just because a dead relative owned something, doesn't mean it has nostalgic/emotional value. Sure, some of my possessions are important, but probably 98% of what I own isn't important.

Same thing with Bob. Chris has plenty of significant memories of Bob. If he doesn't feel the need to memorialize Bob in the form of his worthless property, that's his business. Everyone mourns differently.

Then theres the housefire itself, Chris told Catherine, how he was all to willing to accept Barbara's explanation to why the house burned down. "Oh she was a hoarder she couldn't get rid of stuff, so God said here you go Barb housefire, that will help speed things up." What about a little self reflection Chris, wouldn't God have told you the same? But oh no, Chris wants all his plastic worthless crap back pronto, can't live without that.

I don't believe Chris is a hoarder, clinically. Chris doesn't have any hoarding-related reason not to own the crap that he owns.

 

[IV 445]

2015 was awesome. It had a slow middle, the summer of amiibos as I call it where the only Chris news was more plastic crap. But it was very fast in the beginning and is fast even now, with two Chris updates in a day, a video and a facebook sperg. I couldn't ask much more after the lull and dull of the continuances for his trial.

Plus this year ends with a cliffhanger. Chris still has a suspended sentence. Stay tuned!

 

[Null's Personal Cockwarmer]

Just because a dead relative owned something, doesn't mean it has nostalgic/emotional value. Sure, some of my possessions are important, but probably 98% of what I own isn't important.

Same thing with Bob. Chris has plenty of significant memories of Bob. If he doesn't feel the need to memorialize Bob in the form of his worthless property, that's his business. Everyone mourns differently.

Yeah but an old violin? And tapes his dad put together? That to me would be significant. He sold off Bobs important stuff. Of course a half owned tube of lip balm you're right, that wouldn't sell, unless of course to the die hard Chrisian.

I don't believe Chris is a hoarder, clinically. Chris doesn't have any hoarding-related reason not to own the crap that he owns.

I never said Chris was a hoarder, Chris is addicted to spending money on useless crap. And he never outgrew his childhood, be frank, asides from maybe a few collectibles who still owns their toys, or rather even buys new ones? He's in his 30s for crying out loud.

 

[Marvin]

Yeah but an old violin? And tapes his dad put together? That to me would be significant. He sold off Bobs important stuff. Of course a half owned tube of lip balm you're right, that wouldn't sell, unless of course to the die hard Chrisian.

The violin was a junker and we don't have any reason to think it was emotionally significant to Bob. It might've been, sure, but we have no way of knowing that because of our limited perspective. Chris is genuinely in a much better position to judge that than we are. People approach this topic from the perspective that Chris is being heartless and just selling off Bob's crap because he doesn't give a fuck.

Chris loved his father. He was very close to him, in his own autistic way, and his death fucked Chris up. Chris frequently talks about Bob to this very day. Chris chooses to memorialize his father in his own way. That's his business. I find it reprehensible to dog on Chris because he's not mourning his father the "right" way.

I never said Chris was a hoarder, Chris is addicted to spending money on useless crap. And he never outgrew his childhood, be frank, asides from maybe a few collectibles who still owns their toys, or rather even buys new ones? He's in his 30s for crying out loud.

Eh, I guess he's addicted? I don't know, if I had a bunch of money sitting in my bank account, and literally nothing else to spend it on or save it for, there's no reason not to spend it on myself.

 

[Null's Personal Cockwarmer]

The violin was a junker and we don't have any reason to think it was emotionally significant to Bob. It might've been, sure, but we have no way of knowing that because of our limited perspective. Chris is genuinely in a much better position to judge that than we are. People approach this topic from the perspective that Chris is being heartless and just selling off Bob's crap because he doesn't give a fuck.

Chris loved his father. He was very close to him, in his own autistic way, and his death fucked Chris up. Chris frequently talks about Bob to this very day. Chris chooses to memorialize his father in his own way. That's his business. I find it reprehensible to dog on Chris because he's not mourning his father the "right" way.

You are absolutely right about that, for me it was just a feeling though of being offended by it. But now that you put it that way I guess I sorta get it.

Eh, I guess he's addicted? I don't know, if I had a bunch of money sitting in my bank account, and literally nothing else to spend it on or save it for, there's no reason not to spend it on myself.

There is a huge paradox on that too though. I mean for one Chris and his mother are on welfare. Welfare is, as Jack Thaddeus once put it, "to buy clothes, food, medicine, you use it for shit you don't need like your precious ps triple!"

On top of that when Bob passed, Chris said they where basically out of money. Now asides from trolls and weens buying Chris' his mutilated toys and what not, I can't imagine Chris not needing that money for anything else. Like his moms teeth for example, which I've heard rumored she badly needs work on.

I don't know if Chris chips in for the monthly bills, but I can't imagine Bob having left her a huge will or pension. Specially not since Chris back then mentioned them being in dire straits.

 

[Sonic Rainboom]

Eh, I guess he's addicted? I don't know, if I had a bunch of money sitting in my bank account, and literally nothing else to spend it on or save it for, there's no reason not to spend it on myself.

but it would be retarded to waste it on lolcows.

 

[rocket]

but it would be retarded to waste it on lolcows.

let it go, dude

 

[Marvin]

There is a huge paradox on that too though. I mean for one Chris and his mother are on welfare. Welfare is, as Jack Thaddeus once put it, "to buy clothes, food, medicine, you use it for shit you don't need like your precious ps triple!"

Well no, Chris and Barb aren't on welfare, per se. Chris receives disability. Ideally, welfare is temporarily granted to poor people to help them get back on their feet. Disability is a permanent replacement for the wage Chris would be earning if he didn't have autism. Thus, like any other wage, he can morally spend it on anything he wants to. As long as he meets his other financial obligations, it's his business what he spends the excess on.

On top of that when Bob passed, Chris said they where basically out of money. Now asides from trolls and weens buying Chris' his mutilated toys and what not, I can't imagine Chris not needing that money for anything else. Like his moms teeth for example, which I've heard rumored she badly needs work on.

I don't know if Chris chips in for the monthly bills, but I can't imagine Bob having left her a huge will or pension. Specially not since Chris back then mentioned them being in dire straits.

Oh no, I wouldn't describe Chris and Barb as poor. You have to take Chris' whining about money with a grain of salt. Every month, Chris and Barb manage to pay their bills and have money left over for frivolities. I described my understanding of the situation in this post. Chris buys toys and video games all he wants, on a whim. Occasionally the bills pile up and there's a little pushback. Like one month Barb says "chrissun, momma needs $400 for her credit card bills" (she's got much more debt than Chris), and then Chris passes Barb's bitching on to us.

Barb has a pension from her work, I think. I don't know if Bob's pension is still around. He did leave Chris and Barb a shitload of money, that Barb spent (I think she wasted like $50-100k?) fighting the Snyder case. She only took the plea deal when she started running out of money.

but it would be retarded to waste it on lolcows.

Haha, OK, I'm sorry, let me clarify: I agree with @Karen Riley when it comes to spending money on Chris. It's your money, do what you will with it, we've all made dumb purchases, etc.

However, in your specific case, you had a goal (find out how Chris spends his money), and you gambled a pretty big chunk of change ($500) on pursuing that goal. But as I pointed out, it's difficult to get a meaningful picture of Chris' expenditures from a random gift card. Thus you failed in your goal. The combination of poor execution combined with the high stakes is what made your gift card thing retarded.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

He did leave Chris and Barb a shitload of money, that Barb spent (I think she wasted like $50-100k?) fighting the Snyder case. She only took the plea deal when she started running out of money.

It was right around 50k I believe. And yeah, she blew it all on one legal case with no regard for the fact that her son had a very high likelihood of future legal cases.

 

[94GrandMarquis]

its safe to say the Chandlers are horrible with money

 

[AnOminous]

It was right around 50k I believe. And yeah, she blew it all on one legal case with no regard for the fact that her son had a very high likelihood of future legal cases.

It was absolute lunacy to do this. Bell was about the highest priced lawyer she could find or knew of, and she blew a ridiculous amount of money on what should have been, at most, a $5-10k flat rate criminal defense case for one of those guys from the yellow pages. Really more like $5k max.

And they would have basically pled out the case early for what they eventually got.

This wasn't a complicated case, as retarded as the two defendants and their actions were. Everyone more or less agreed on the legally important facts and most of the shit they threw against the wall was about completely irrelevant bullshit like whether Michael Snyder was a Jew, or whatever.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

It was absolute lunacy to do this.

You shouldn't be surprised though. If anything you should be jealous he had such spendy clients.

 

[Vault Boy]

It was absolute lunacy to do this. Bell was about the highest priced lawyer she could find or knew of, and she blew a ridiculous amount of money on what should have been, at most, a $5-10k flat rate criminal defense case for one of those guys from the yellow pages. Really more like $5k max.

And they would have basically pled out the case early for what they eventually got.

This wasn't a complicated case, as retarded as the two defendants and their actions were. Everyone more or less agreed on the legally important facts and most of the shit they threw against the wall was about completely irrelevant bullshit like whether Michael Snyder was a Jew, or whatever.

It wouldn't have mattered what kind of lawyer she would've hired, their case was indefensible. There were eyewitnesses to the event, Schneider could've been killed, and the two of them are so batshit crazy that no one could take their views on the event seriously. They wasted their entire inheritance on a lost cause of a case.

 

[AnOminous]

It wouldn't have mattered what kind of lawyer she would've hired, their case was indefensible.

It would have mattered about Bob's entire life savings worth.

Because the same results could have cost a LOT less.

 

[I_Am_Honor_Roll]

This wasn't a complicated case, as retarded as the two defendants and their actions were. Everyone more or less agreed on the legally important facts and most of the shit they threw against the wall was about completely irrelevant bullshit like whether Michael Snyder was a Jew, or whatever.

You don't know where I could get a transcript, do you? Because that sounds amazing.

 

[AnOminous]

You don't know where I could get a transcript, do you? Because that sounds amazing.

Pretty sure there was no transcript. There was a somewhat sketchy report that is on the cwcki. Sadly, there's rarely a transcript of the routine kind of events that actually occurred in court, where they basically just pled guilty after wasting an enormous amount of money preparing to actually put on a defense.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Pretty sure there was no transcript. There was a somewhat sketchy report that is on the cwcki. Sadly, there's rarely a transcript of the routine kind of events that actually occurred in court, where they basically just pled guilty after wasting an enormous amount of money preparing to actually put on a defense.

Actually by law there has to be a transcript of every court session. So there is an official word by word recount of the court sessions and it's available to any citizen of the U.S. for a nominal fee of $45.

But you have to go to the courthouse itself and use your ID to request the copy.

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/virginia-state-court-records

If anyone who is living in Virginia has got the cojones to make the request I'd happily refund their expenses!