Abductive (upperface) and lowerface affect - and the relationship to schizophrenia.

[henstepl]

It begins with a simple substitution: schizophrenic "reduced affect display" is actually strict affect: the inability to move the upper half and lower half of the face at the same time.

And strict affect is an indicator of bad cognition, with or without psychosis. Where psychosis occurs it can't be so simply resolved, but the miscognition indicated by strict affect is resolved when strict affect is resolved.

Strict affect is resolved by identifying that serotonin is associated with the upper half of the face, and dopamine the lower half. It is as simple as increasing serotonin and reducing dopamine, or vice versa. This effectively allows resolution into either of two very different personality states: Type A, adductive (primarily lowerface) affect, which is spectacularly successful at its best, eloquent and stable, but will never read a book, and Type B, abductive (upperface) affect, which is clumsy and abusable, and prone to "abduction" dissociation events, but is necessary to read books, or to even watch The Office.

The abductive affect of Type B does not extend far enough downward to be able to drink soda, which is why schizophrenia is readily tested for by forcing abductive affect and sipping a soda.

This is the standard of understanding of schizophrenia now.

This is how the disease is treated.

Cope.

 

[Just A Butt]

Can you tell us more? How long have you been researching this?

 

[trevshoms]

am I retarded or is this saying that if I cant make the soy face, I have schizophrenia?

 

[Maskull]

am I retarded or is this saying that if I cant make the soy face, I have schizophrenia?

You should see their other threads. He posted, WITHOUT CONTENTION, in the last one.

 

[henstepl]

Can you tell us more? How long have you been researching this?

I have been frantically searching for answers regarding my mental health ever since it began to decline around the age of 19. I have never suffered from psychosis except for Type B's abduction events, and so I do not need clumsy antipsychotics.

It has only been this year that I have developed such an elaborate understanding through extensive self-experimentation. I now have a sizable stack of vitamins and basic pharmaceuticals that I use to maximize my cognition.

I've only hospitalized myself once! The second time doesn't count.

 

[Just A Butt]

The second time doesn't count.

I would like to know more about this, if it's ok.

 

[Miss Misery]

Dude, just take your Abilify and shut up.

 

[Aquinas]

Listen to the voices and shut the fuck up for the final time, schizoposter

 

[henstepl]

I would like to know more about this, if it's ok.

Well, all right. I just hope you'll forgive me if it sounds like psychobabble at any point.

I go a little further to associate dopamine with adrenaline and serotonin with choline. Adrenaline and choline are associated with the lower and upper halves of the body. And I figured I wanted to read, so I would try haloperidol (dopamine--) and prazosin (adrenaline--). This was an enormous mistake, because my face abducted agreeably enough, but my body abducted too.

Forgive the "woo", but there's some cholinergic energy that proceeds top-downwards in the body, and it was only proceeding so far as from my head to my neck. And the lower limit of this energy was involuntary and TIGHT, like a clenched fist. When it was in every muscle in my neck, it left me risking a most infernal cramp, but then it proceeded a little further downwards - and it was every muscle in my chest, and I couldn't breathe. I ran into an ER basically breathing by screaming, and scaring everyone who thought I had COVID.

But I managed to leave without treatment. The reason? I took two fukken Sudafed PE. Adducted me just enough that I could breathe.

am I retarded or is this saying that if I cant make the soy face, I have schizophrenia?

There is no carbonation grimace without a grimace. It's actually saying that if you make the soy face and sip a soda, and grimace involuntarily, you have schizophrenia.

But, yes, you are retarded.

 

[trevshoms]

There is no carbonation grimace without a grimace. It's actually saying that if you make the soy face and sip a soda, and grimace involuntarily, you have schizophrenia.

But, yes, you are retarded.

Ok thanks for answering, I'll have to give that a try

 

[Aquinas]

>Have schizophrenia
>just drank soda
>didnt grimace
I have no idea what the fuck you are even talk about but i just physically disproved it myself

 

[Maskull]

>Have schizophrenia
>just drank soda
>didnt grimace
I have no idea what the fuck you are even talk about but i just physically disproved it myself

I guess you're cured now.

 

[Aquinas]

I guess you're cured now.

Dont talk to me

 

[Just A Butt]

I guess you're cured now.

A Christmas miracle

 

[henstepl]

>Have schizophrenia
>just drank soda
>didnt grimace
I have no idea what the fuck you are even talk about but i just physically disproved it myself

It's remarkable how many people have shit upon the theory without first sourcing a schizophrenic to try it, but I'd be concerned that you didn't actually follow the protocol. There's a facial exercise you need to perform first, to force an upperface affect. And I'm currently recommending that folks drop the soda in with a straw rather than sip it.

Furthermore, if you're functional but schizophrenic, you could be on antipsychotics or other medications that do assist your cognition. I've mostly administered the test to unmedicated folks and the homeless. This could throw off the results even if you're following the instructions.

Tell me, if you went off your meds, you might hallucinate again, but how shot would your cognition be? I don't hallucinate, but my cognition is SHOT.

 

[Aquinas]

im not talking to you about my bullshit dude, i dont even know why you are talking about it on the internet, much less here of all places

 

[henstepl]

im not talking to you about my bullshit dude, i dont even know why you are talking about it on the internet, much less here of all places

All right fuckup. I've achieved more in a single post than you've achieved in your life, but keep shitting on me.

 

[Aquinas]

All right fuckup. I've achieved more in a single post than you've achieved in your life, but keep shitting on me.

I like the cut of your jib, you aight white boi