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Bruce LaLiLuLeLo

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This is a thread for discussing a favourite autistic topic of mine, accents. Ignoring foreign languages, the English language itself has so many vocab and pronunciation differences based on region/ethnic group. This thread will be for discussion and learning.

Starting with the classics, the British accent. It's of several subtypes but the most prominent are RP and cockney. RP is the one used for official purposes and is generally the most accurate to English pronunciation. Regional accents tend to twist things like "Yorkshire" into "Yorkshuh" while RP goes with the entire word as it's spelt. It's sort of held up as the premier way of speaking English across the world due to the associations with royalty and upper class behaviour. Cockney is a bit harder to get the hang of as it requires nasality and twisting pronunciation. It's nearly extinct and is almost practiced only by old people but when they speak cockney, it sounds very good. Michael caine is probably the most prominent cockney speaker and its not even completely accurate to old fashioned cockney cause he mixes in a bit of RP. Most of RP and British English as a whole relies on variations of the "O" and the "uh" sounds compared to American English which relies on the "ah" and "ae" a lot more. Irish and Scottish are minor footnotes, irish relies on cutting the vowels short except for the "ai" and "oo" sounds which is used everywhere, scottish has a bit of nasality and just sounds like a tribal underdeveloped British accent.

Next is the south african and australian accents. They're slight deviations of British English but have a lot more nasality, probably due to difference in weather. The slang is probably regional but you can recognize it from the way they pronounce things like color (British would be "kolor", rhodesian would be "kulah" and australian would be "kaelah"). A minor difference between the African and australian accents would be the Australian relying on the "ai" sound more, it's similar to epenthesis but is a lot more exaggerated with y sounds everywhere. A bit similar to texan but not so much, probably due to the desert region messing with the larynx and inner nose.

American has too many accents to name and I don't know any of them other than bostonian and texan. Boston is full of Irish immigrants so it's based off irish, they use "ae" a lot (kaeh for car). Texan is like australian but less exaggerated and is like a mixed baby between cockney and australian. I would say texan is the more stereotypical redneck accent compared to Arkansas and the deeper south but that's just me. Makes me speculate if Ralph is from Texas or Arkansas instead of west virginia.

Ill probably cover the other European ones in a follow up post.
 
I try real hard not to sound like I'm from Philly. Hollywood likes to equate the NE Pennsylvania accent with New York a lot like it's the same thing. But it's not. Although I guess I can see why someone from elsewhere might go "close enough".

I've never been to the deep south but I imagine there would be people down there I can barely understand. The midwest accent seems to be the most neutral.
 
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It's interesting in certain rural areas you can tell the difference in accent between villages that are literally within walking distance if you've got an ear for it.
American has too many accents to name and I don't know any of them other than bostonian and texan.
Surprisingly, the typical Southern/Texan accent is apparently an offshoot of the old aristocratic British accent. Years ago I watched a video showing how the change happened but I can't find it now.
 
Surprisingly, the typical Southern/Texan accent is apparently an offshoot of the old aristocratic British accent. Years ago I watched a video showing how the change happened but I can't find it now.
The Aristocratic British accent is RP. From what I've seen of texan it seems to be closer to working class london street english than RP, especially considering most of the texan and southern immigrants as a whole being illiterate British and Irish factory workers/farmers. I think it's similar to australian cause of the climate, high temperature climates make you breath through the mouth more and introduces nasality to speech. But I'd be happy to be wrong on that, if you can find sources for it
 
American has too many accents to name and I don't know any of them other than bostonian and texan.
Wired has a really solid video series on American accents & dialects, if you're interested in learning more.

We have to bring back the Transatlantic accent for the new 30s. That was awesome.

I like how UK is so small compared to the states, yet they have like 10 different accents on that little island.
It's got a lot to do with the conditions under which the country was settled. For most of the UK's history, people rarely left their home village, let alone mingled with people on opposite ends of the country, and so developed a lot of distinct accents in a relatively small area. Compare that to Australia, which was settled mostly after the advent of long-distance transport & mass communication -- it's a huge island but the regional accents are very slight.
 
Wired has a really solid video series on American accents & dialects, if you're interested in learning more.

We have to bring back the Transatlantic accent for the new 30s. That was awesome.
Bro I've watched that technique critique series by erik singer about 15 times now, the entire series of 7 or so videos. These globohomo corporate channels sometimes have very good stuff on them, only sometimes. I would like to see more proper old fashioned cockney speakers, can't find much of them on youtube.
 
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I would like to see more proper old fashioned cockney speakers, can't find much of them on youtube.
The BBC Archive channel has a bunch of old newsreels from the 70s and 80s which are really useful for studying British accents. There's even this one specifically on the Cockney dialect (if you haven't found it already).
 
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I enjoyed this video
And the people on Tangier Island are fascinating to listen to
 
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