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Minecraft Youtubers make Poketubers look sane.
Adam Dahlberg / SkyDoesMinecraft / netnobody
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Yeah he's like the only one from the golden days that's still active, has an active viewerbase and didn't go completely crazy over the years. And his videos, even though they show traits of YouTuberism such as stretching them to 10 minute mark and clickbaity title/thumbnail combos, are pretty cool because he goes into technicalities of the game and it's historic versions, which always interested me personally.
Out of curiosity I checked how Yogscast is doing since I've watch them a lot back in the day, and it's pretty sad to see what became of them after the fame dwindled down.
Awful clickbaity thumbnails, using their faces in them, and overall dwindling engagement. 7.14mil subs and can barely get a video to 200k views. And I remember very well that their Channels tab had a lot of Yogscast members in it, and now it looks like the old team fell apart hard, not to mention Sjin being outed as a sex pest.
And if you sort their videos by their most popular, you can have a glimpse of what they were like during the golden age.
It's a shame to see how these content creators which I associate with good old times go downhill so much. I'm pretty sure I've been training my English skills by watching Yogscast Minecraft videos way back in the day.
Awful clickbaity thumbnails, using their faces in them, and overall dwindling engagement. 7.14mil subs and can barely get a video to 200k views. And I remember very well that their Channels tab had a lot of Yogscast members in it, and now it looks like the old team fell apart hard, not to mention Sjin being outed as a sex pest.
And if you sort their videos by their most popular, you can have a glimpse of what they were like during the golden age.
It's a shame to see how these content creators which I associate with good old times go downhill so much. I'm pretty sure I've been training my English skills by watching Yogscast Minecraft videos way back in the day.
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Most of the people who he seems to have drama with are mentally ill, also. God knows how this will end. The most relevant he's been in recent years was when he was cyberbullied brutally by a Nigerian man in 2017.
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remember everyone you gotta respect their pronouns as this is the most important part of the situations the pronouns of a schizoid who abuses puppies and their girlfriends
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Anime avatar, kys yourself
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Just because you can say nigger doesn’t mean you have to. It is a choice for everyone to make.
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So what is the over under on minecraft jewtubers being sex pests now? Gotta be close to like 90% now.
Also, nigger, for posterity
Also, nigger, for posterity
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First I opened my eyes Then I felt strange breeze I had traveled to a world made of blocks Totally unbeknownst to me When you play Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, Minecraft Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh There were animals all across the land Villigers working hard hand in hand There were roses, moutains, and a big blue sea Even trees as far as the eye can see How'd this happen? Why am I here? What's my purpose in this place? Who's that coming? What am I hearing? As the night approaches, I should go and hide There's all sorts of creatures, run with all my might When you play Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, Minecraft Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh When you play Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, Minecraft Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Enderman and Zombies, Creepers who go hide Either live or die, it's up for me to decide When you play Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, Minecraft Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh When you play Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, Minecraft Mine, Mine, MInecraft Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
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I'm looking at more of the drama and I'm seeing all of his previous friends call him out and make tweets about him so i'd thought I'd post them here.
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( I’m gonna start this off by letting you all know my involvement with Adam/how I came along in the story. If you don’t care, skip to the paragraph with “ *** ” in front of it. )
////HEAVY TRIGGER WARNING////
I met Adam roughly 2 years ago when they started making another attempt at coming back to content creation. During that time, they were streaming on YouTube and that’s how we were able to speak to each other, the chat. We’d talk about their old days and about our similarities like how we’re both parents, both born and raised in Washington state, etc. After a while, they asked if I wanted to join them to play games for some streams and I happily obliged. Playing games with one of the creators I looked up to the most??? Pffff, how could that ever go wrong!? From there we got to know each other better and became close friends. I would frequently call with them and visit at their house. I got involved with their behind-the-scenes team of people to support their career. I was an admin of their Discord server, a mod for their Twitch and YouTube streams, a “talent” for some content, as well as what was later known (half-jokingly) as “damage control”.. which, in short, were the people who would keep tabs on Adam to make sure they didn’t do/say anything that would jeopardize their career, or worse, harm themself or others. Sounds super fun, right? It was all of these responsibilities and experiences that put me in some awful situations and allowed me to witnesses what they were truly capable of.
***
1) Manipulation
Unfortunately, like many others, I’ve faced my fair share of abusive/manipulative people. I know what it looks like when someone used manipulative tactics to get people to do what the abuser wants… and boy did I see lots of that. If there was a checkbox of manipulative/mentally abusive tactics and behaviors, Adam could’ve easily hit each box by the end of the day. Anyone and everyone involved with them in any way was inevitably at risk of falling victim to their tactics. But you’re here for my side, so let me share what they’d try on me.
Adam told me many times about how they saw me as a successor. Calling me things like “Sky 2”, “Caine” (son of Adam in the Bible), “The next Sky”, etc. To my knowledge, but not to my surprise, they didn’t express this same enthusiasm for me to other people. Because it was a tool for *me*. A title they knew I valued. They would suggest I do things I wasn’t comfortable with (as much as I’d like you all to know, I’m just not comfortable discussing all that) and when those things were rejected I was told things like “that’s not very Sky of you” and “Maybe I was wrong about you” as an attempt to make me “earn” my title.. by doing what they wanted from me. I’m of course not the only person he manipulated at all, but those are not my stories to tell.
2) Irresponsibility
As I’ve stated before, Adam and I are both parents.. well, I’m a parent and they happen to be biologically related to two children… But that’s besides the point. On a few times I’ve been over to their house, their son was also home to visit. A child needs care from their parent, so what did they do? Adam did the bare minimum, if that, and then left to his room. You wanna know who watched Mason? Me. Who got him snacks? Me. Who got games on and watched TV with him? Me. Childcare is nothing new to me and never a bother, so I don’t want this to sound like Mason was a burden left on me. He’s honestly one of the sweetest souls I’ve met and I loved kicking it with him. However, Adam’s very apparent lack of responsibility and care really shined through to me that day and angered me to my core. I just couldn’t wrap my head around it. Then they’d compare us as equals and preach online of how they’re such an amazing parent.. it made me sick to my stomach.
And then there was poor Albert..
Adam’s dog Albert was often fed things a dog should never be eating. Candy, junk food, sweet drinks, etc. It was clear by his behavior and, to be frank.. his farts, just how badly he was nourished. And whenever he would do things a poorly-trained pup would do, he would be thrown outside in the cold rain. Adam is not fit to be a pet owner whatsoever.
On relationships, of any kind for that matter, they lack the responsibility to properly care for another person in their life. Friends, family, partners, you name it. They can’t even take care of themself, how should they be expected to care for others? And I don’t just mean they’re neglectful, I mean downright hurtful. I’ve never met a single person that he showed true love to the way you do when you truly care for someone. They could snap and hurt you at the toss of a dime with no remorse. He genuinely is not fit for relations of any kind. If they were constantly nice to you, you either 1. weren’t close enough with them 2. consistently did what they wanted of you 3. got lucky. I both envy you and feel relieved for you.
When it came to their career, they was never the one to take action. The team I was involved with, as well as Liz, did EVERYTHING except *be Adam*. We scheduled his activities, got him to wake up and work, contacted business opportunities, coordinated collaborations, and gave whatever we could to settle his community while he went MIA. The amount of utter stress some of us went through to keep him afloat and keep his fans happy.. They’re lucky we were all as selfless as we were, no one should be expected to go through the hoops we jumped in order to save a career that arguably wasn’t even his doing anymore.
3) Substance abuse
I want to preface this by saying addiction is a serious matter and I’ll never blame anyone for being addicted to any substance of any kind. However, addiction does not excuse bad actions and Adam’s story with substance abuse isn’t just a matter of fighting addiction.
Adam would talk about use of so many substances that at this point I don’t even remember them all, but for this I’m only going to be talking about his use of shrooms specifically, because that’s enough to get my point across. Adam would dose shrooms nearly every day. Sometimes he’d actually take a break, but sometimes he would SAY he’s taking a break/putting a stop to it, but in reality he was still doing it. They only ever lied about stopping shrooms to get what they wanted. They would believe delusions and hallucinations they’d see while on shrooms and when you tried to tell them that those things weren’t true they’d just tell you that you were crazy and unintelligent for not being “woke” enough to understand. They’d often pressure other people into dosing with him, including myself. I never gave in, but they tried on multiple occasions.
4) Misc.
[I don’t exactly have enough points for these specific things to get a whole topic written out, so I’m just gonna list some additional things they’ve done]
-They attempted a few non-consensual advances on me while under the influence
-They video called me on multiple occasions with nothing but underwear on, once naked in the bathroom (I didn’t see anything, but still weird.)
-They once implied they were a god-like being and that humanity as a whole was below them
-Constantly demonized/villainized people currently and no longer involved in his life. Ex: Post Malone is the anti-Christ, ex-teamcrafted members are diagnosed psychopaths, Mason’s mom has devil blood/is a snake woman, etc.
-Told me (no matter how much good she did for them) that Liz was terrible and that they feel no remorse doing things like cheating and admitted multiple times about their abusive acts towards her (then implied he’d cheat on her with me, possibly as a joke, but still not ok)
-Showed me pictures of a “homunculus” they “birthed” (which was clearly semen..)
-Was convinced I was an elemental bender (“Like me”, they said) and got genuinely mad when I denied that it was true, then threatened to “blood bend” my heart if I tried “hiding” my abilities from them again (then later profusely apologized on call the next day, probably in fear I’d tell someone)
-Promised pay for my work over and over (spoiler alert, I was never payed a dime..)
-Told me to name my son after them, then attempted to guilt-trip me when I denied
-Got upset with me because they believed that I was stealing their energy from their dream-self to relieve my insomnia
Theirs a few more things they’ve done.. but for my own safety and mental health, I don’t feel comfortable sharing those. I’m not financially stable enough to risk a court case and I’m already at risk of taking heat from their fans as-is.
If you took the time to read all of this, I really appreciate it. I’m thankful you took time to see my point of view on this matter.
A few last notes..
-Yes, Adam is very mentally ill, they need help, but they’ll dodge that help as much as they can and trying to convince them to get help will get you nowhere. At this point, it’s best for you to keep your distance from them and allow them to do it themselves.
-No, Adam’s mental illness does not excuse ANY of his behavior. Many many people deal with various forms of mental illness in their everyday lives and it doesn’t stop them from *not* being a scummy person if they truly care to *not* be a scummy person.
-Their are too many people affected to this day by his actions to even count. Adam doesn’t deserve a platform where they can go to harm more people. This is the end of their presence online.
-Do NOT, for ANY reason, attempt to approach Adam about anything at all. You’re putting yourself at risk.
-Finally, Adam has done treacherous things, HOWEVER that does not in any circumstance warrant you sending them death threats. I don’t tolerate that at all. Stop supporting them, support their victims, and leave it at that.
That’s all I have to say. Thank you.
-Skelly/Austin
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And some smaller quotes from people on Twitter
CrispyCloud/MuchingBrotato
Deadlox
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For context, here is what has happened recently with Adam/Sky: https://twitter.com/Lizbuggie/status/1485280124467486722
I'm starting to write this at 1:15pm ET on 1/24/2022, and I have to step away at 2pm, but I wanted to talk about Adam a little bit, because I have some experiences that I would like to let out. I may respond to certain replies if it feels necessary, however, I would like to release this, and then never think about it again. Just so you know though, I am doing just fine. I have been so jaded by Adams actions throughout the past few years that the only thing I really felt when the news came out was relief, and sympathy for those he negatively affected. I want to thank other creators who have spoken out about their own experiences, which has made me feel more comfortable with doing so. I want to preface this by saying that ever since 2013, I have been kept at just outside of arms reach of Adam, so I was spared from much of what you may have heard from others. This document doesn't get into gruesome detail, so you can feel safe reading this if you are worried about that.
I would also like to offer some food for thought. I saw a comment from someone about an unrelated event that happened recently wherein a commenter said "people shouldn't put creators on a pedestal, because we all have our flaws, and nobody is perfect". I think that's a wise point that I wanted to mention first. I am in no way excusing what Adam did to those around him, but I feel it's at least important to acknowledge and hope that sick individuals get better, even if you still choose to be critical of their actions. I'm not going to share "juicy details" either, but I will stand what I said in my initial tweet, linked below, that what little I did see from Adam throughout the last year or two falls in line with the post that Liz made about Adam. But again, I've always been kept at just beyond an arms distance from Adam, so I had no idea things were so bad.
I have known Adam, aka SkyDoesMinecraft, aka NetNobody since 2009, prior to the creation of the SkyDoesMinecraft channel. I was there when Adam was trying to get his channel off of the ground, and I coached him a lot throughout 2012, which is when the SkyDoesMinecraft channel initially blew up. I met Sky when he contacted me, joking about a RuneScape video I had made. Before meeting him, my response would have probably been hostile and defensive, as I took everything way too seriously. But for whatever reason, for the first time in my life, at 19 years old, I took it in stride, and we became great friends. I can't say we were the closest of friends, but we communicated often, all the way through 2012. Myself & CavemanFilms even did a fundraiser live-stream for him in 2011, linked below, so he could buy a new PC, which he ultimately did, and that allowed him to start his "SkyDoesMinecraft" career. I would be lying if I said I haven't felt at least a little bit of guilt in feeling like had I never helped Adam, this may have never happened. But we can't connect the dots looking forward. We can only connect them looking backwards.
In the weeks leading up to his channel blowing up, he would often ask me to record with him, as it was something we enjoyed. By this point, I had somewhere in the neighborhood of 500,000 subscribers. As time went on, he would ask to record with me a lot, because he enjoyed it, and I enjoyed it. I was a hard-ass on him about his repeated requests in early July of 2012 because he began asking me to record a little too much. At the end of the day, part of my motivation for being a hard-ass was to motivate him. I wanted him to have a few weeks worth of content on his channel before recording with him again because I wanted to feel like he really wanted it. By the time the middle of July had rolled around, he did just that, and we recorded "Minecraft Tennis", linked below.
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Prior to Minecraft, Adam did not live an easy life. I want to make that clear, because I know that was part of what drove him to escape that lifestyle, and become successful. His passion was always video making, and I know he saw the same opportunity I saw in 2011 when I began making videos full time. I firmly believe Adam would have blown up without my assistance at this point, but Adam definitely blew up a lot following the release of this video. And I mean, a LOT. He went from tens of thousands of views per day, to the high hundreds of thousands. I have archived Skype conversations from 2012 that I looked at yesterday that show just how excited Sky was. Sky saw nearly overnight success.
As some of you may know, earned income on YouTube isn't paid out until 30-60 days following the end of that month. So while Sky did see overnight success, he did not get any money for it for a few months. I firmly believe that July through August of 2012 were the absolute happiest that I ever saw Adam. Within my "PAX 2012 Day 1" video, linked below, you can see an entirely different looking Adam, who looks so full of life, and so ready to just take on the world. He had found success, but money had not yet corrupted him.
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My memory after PAX 2012 is hazy, but I do remember the first time our friendship became strained was when he organized and did not invite me to "Survival Games 5", the video for which is linked below. Considering that I won the first three, and considering how good of friends we were prior to this time, something seemed up. Now I want to make clear that this is water under the bridge. I forgave this a long time ago. The reason I bring this up is this was when I began to always be greater than an arms distance away from Adam, which is why I feel I was spared.
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I can't specifically verify exactly why he chose to begin ignoring me around this time. I have heard theories about it being about me not being willing to record with someone due to "them not being popular enough", which isn't true, as I wouldn't ever say that. I care about how well a commentator vibes with the group, not how popular they are. However, this is where my "close friendship" with Adam fell apart. In the years following, we did begin talking again from time to time, and even recorded some videos together, but things were never the same. Almost any time Adam would ask to record with people, he would do so while entirely disrespecting their available time. He would want to shoot the shit with people for hours and hours prior to even recording, which I was always critical about. Whether or not that played a role in me remaining beyond an arms distance from him, I don't know. If he had wanted to get into a call, record right away, and then shoot the shit hours, I would have been all for it, because at least I would have been able to leave when I wanted to. In the years following, I heard I was in discussions to be invited into Team Crafted, but later heard Adam struck down that idea. Again, it seems I was spared. My friendship with Adam improved as the years went on, and I even made an effort to see him a few times when I was in Seattle throughout the 2015, 2016, and 2017 era, just to catch up. The last time that I can ever recall seeing him in person was when he was working at Sky Media, and we had lunch together.
Fast forward to some time into / after 2018, I began to see just how far Adam had fallen. I need to be extremely careful to not disclose specifics, but Adam called me as a friend to discuss delusional ideas that he was absolutely enthralled with. I will say, however, that when I stood firm with him after 2-3 calls of this, and told him that I was not interested in his beliefs, that he was respectful of that wish, and slowed that kind of talk with me.
At some point in 2019 or 2020, I had gotten a few calls from Adam where-in he was clearly not in a good state of mind. His home was an absolute wreck, and he frequently in some kind of a psychotic state. I can confidently say that I was scared during these calls. I was scared that I would be the trigger for him to do something bad, even though all I wanted to do was support him and calm him down. Adam has been my friend since 2009. Even if I felt the odds were absolutely stacked against him, I always wanted him to have an epic comeback, find peace, and live happy. But again, because I was kept just outside of arms reach, I had no idea about the things that were going on that Liz described within her message. All I can confidently say is that me and Liz did speak the one time she mentioned we spoke, and it was very brief.
The last time myself and Adam spoke was within the past few months, when he borrowed a bit of "grocery money" from me, which he did 2-3 times within the past year. Nothing overly major, as I would have said no to anything I wasn't comfortable with. The last time he borrowed from me though, I told him it was the last time I could help him financially, unless he was able to pay it back, and have an amazing comeback, whether it be with videos, music, or whatever his life passions were. I just wanted the best for my friend, and I still want the best for my friend. Adam did some truly unforgivable things that other people have shared their stories about, and he's especially done unforgivable things within the past few years, which I believe were directly influenced by him losing the remainder of his earned wealth. I still hope at the end of the day, Adam takes this event as a lesson to TRULY better himself. I know that at this point in his life, his sober mind works against him every single day. As someone who has been battling through trying to balance ADHD medication issues, I can at least respect when your mind just starts saying "no", day in and day out. But again, what Adam did, does not deserve forgiveness yet. I will only consider some kind of forgiveness if he does what I think nobody expect from him at this point, and actually strives to fix his life, and then does so, and proves to even the harshest of skeptics that he's giving it his all. Adam, in 2012, I just wanted you to "want it", and the same rings true in 2022. Work for forgiveness. Work to right your wrongs. Show the world you can change. I won't ever forgive you if you don't. In just the past few months prior to all of this coming out, it did really seem like Adam was trying to improve himself, but he had shown me no real signs of actual progress. I was hopeful, but skeptically so. I have no idea if he was still being a menace to others throughout these past few months or not, so I can't speak on whether or not he was actually improving in any way.
Over the past few months, I have been on the record as saying that I favor the modern generation of "top creators", because despite a few hiccups here and there, they have been far and away a MUCH more positive influence for this generation of viewers than some of the games former "top" creators. Now you know part of the reason as to why I've been saying that. To the modern generation of creators just looking to do their best, I applaud you. Keep doing what you do.
Liz, I'll say again, I truly hope you find the solace you deserve. To anybody else hurt by Adam, I hope you are able to find your own peace. I am happy that you have gotten so much support throughout this time, and I wish you all the best, along with everyone else out there.
-Taylor / AntVenom
I'm starting to write this at 1:15pm ET on 1/24/2022, and I have to step away at 2pm, but I wanted to talk about Adam a little bit, because I have some experiences that I would like to let out. I may respond to certain replies if it feels necessary, however, I would like to release this, and then never think about it again. Just so you know though, I am doing just fine. I have been so jaded by Adams actions throughout the past few years that the only thing I really felt when the news came out was relief, and sympathy for those he negatively affected. I want to thank other creators who have spoken out about their own experiences, which has made me feel more comfortable with doing so. I want to preface this by saying that ever since 2013, I have been kept at just outside of arms reach of Adam, so I was spared from much of what you may have heard from others. This document doesn't get into gruesome detail, so you can feel safe reading this if you are worried about that.
I would also like to offer some food for thought. I saw a comment from someone about an unrelated event that happened recently wherein a commenter said "people shouldn't put creators on a pedestal, because we all have our flaws, and nobody is perfect". I think that's a wise point that I wanted to mention first. I am in no way excusing what Adam did to those around him, but I feel it's at least important to acknowledge and hope that sick individuals get better, even if you still choose to be critical of their actions. I'm not going to share "juicy details" either, but I will stand what I said in my initial tweet, linked below, that what little I did see from Adam throughout the last year or two falls in line with the post that Liz made about Adam. But again, I've always been kept at just beyond an arms distance from Adam, so I had no idea things were so bad.
I have known Adam, aka SkyDoesMinecraft, aka NetNobody since 2009, prior to the creation of the SkyDoesMinecraft channel. I was there when Adam was trying to get his channel off of the ground, and I coached him a lot throughout 2012, which is when the SkyDoesMinecraft channel initially blew up. I met Sky when he contacted me, joking about a RuneScape video I had made. Before meeting him, my response would have probably been hostile and defensive, as I took everything way too seriously. But for whatever reason, for the first time in my life, at 19 years old, I took it in stride, and we became great friends. I can't say we were the closest of friends, but we communicated often, all the way through 2012. Myself & CavemanFilms even did a fundraiser live-stream for him in 2011, linked below, so he could buy a new PC, which he ultimately did, and that allowed him to start his "SkyDoesMinecraft" career. I would be lying if I said I haven't felt at least a little bit of guilt in feeling like had I never helped Adam, this may have never happened. But we can't connect the dots looking forward. We can only connect them looking backwards.
In the weeks leading up to his channel blowing up, he would often ask me to record with him, as it was something we enjoyed. By this point, I had somewhere in the neighborhood of 500,000 subscribers. As time went on, he would ask to record with me a lot, because he enjoyed it, and I enjoyed it. I was a hard-ass on him about his repeated requests in early July of 2012 because he began asking me to record a little too much. At the end of the day, part of my motivation for being a hard-ass was to motivate him. I wanted him to have a few weeks worth of content on his channel before recording with him again because I wanted to feel like he really wanted it. By the time the middle of July had rolled around, he did just that, and we recorded "Minecraft Tennis", linked below.
Minecraft Mini-Game: TENNIS! w/ SkyDoesMinecraft!
Mini-Game Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR50dP3MW9ZUbr5nOVt0gfD66AuFvRI3XDownload Sethbling's Tennis: http://youtu.be/GF3dP8GkUH4SkyDoesMin...
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Prior to Minecraft, Adam did not live an easy life. I want to make that clear, because I know that was part of what drove him to escape that lifestyle, and become successful. His passion was always video making, and I know he saw the same opportunity I saw in 2011 when I began making videos full time. I firmly believe Adam would have blown up without my assistance at this point, but Adam definitely blew up a lot following the release of this video. And I mean, a LOT. He went from tens of thousands of views per day, to the high hundreds of thousands. I have archived Skype conversations from 2012 that I looked at yesterday that show just how excited Sky was. Sky saw nearly overnight success.
As some of you may know, earned income on YouTube isn't paid out until 30-60 days following the end of that month. So while Sky did see overnight success, he did not get any money for it for a few months. I firmly believe that July through August of 2012 were the absolute happiest that I ever saw Adam. Within my "PAX 2012 Day 1" video, linked below, you can see an entirely different looking Adam, who looks so full of life, and so ready to just take on the world. He had found success, but money had not yet corrupted him.
PAX 2012 - Day 1 - Mojang Interviews, Freddiew Sighting, & More!
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My memory after PAX 2012 is hazy, but I do remember the first time our friendship became strained was when he organized and did not invite me to "Survival Games 5", the video for which is linked below. Considering that I won the first three, and considering how good of friends we were prior to this time, something seemed up. Now I want to make clear that this is water under the bridge. I forgave this a long time ago. The reason I bring this up is this was when I began to always be greater than an arms distance away from Adam, which is why I feel I was spared.
Minecraft: Survival Games 5 ROUND ONE! (with Youtubers!)
THE SURVIVAL GAMES BEGIN! PITTING YOUTUBERS AGAINST ONE ANOTHER IN A BATTLE TO THE DEATH! WILL SKY AND HIS FRIENDS SURVIVE?!Friends Channels!CaptainSparklez ...
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I can't specifically verify exactly why he chose to begin ignoring me around this time. I have heard theories about it being about me not being willing to record with someone due to "them not being popular enough", which isn't true, as I wouldn't ever say that. I care about how well a commentator vibes with the group, not how popular they are. However, this is where my "close friendship" with Adam fell apart. In the years following, we did begin talking again from time to time, and even recorded some videos together, but things were never the same. Almost any time Adam would ask to record with people, he would do so while entirely disrespecting their available time. He would want to shoot the shit with people for hours and hours prior to even recording, which I was always critical about. Whether or not that played a role in me remaining beyond an arms distance from him, I don't know. If he had wanted to get into a call, record right away, and then shoot the shit hours, I would have been all for it, because at least I would have been able to leave when I wanted to. In the years following, I heard I was in discussions to be invited into Team Crafted, but later heard Adam struck down that idea. Again, it seems I was spared. My friendship with Adam improved as the years went on, and I even made an effort to see him a few times when I was in Seattle throughout the 2015, 2016, and 2017 era, just to catch up. The last time that I can ever recall seeing him in person was when he was working at Sky Media, and we had lunch together.
Fast forward to some time into / after 2018, I began to see just how far Adam had fallen. I need to be extremely careful to not disclose specifics, but Adam called me as a friend to discuss delusional ideas that he was absolutely enthralled with. I will say, however, that when I stood firm with him after 2-3 calls of this, and told him that I was not interested in his beliefs, that he was respectful of that wish, and slowed that kind of talk with me.
At some point in 2019 or 2020, I had gotten a few calls from Adam where-in he was clearly not in a good state of mind. His home was an absolute wreck, and he frequently in some kind of a psychotic state. I can confidently say that I was scared during these calls. I was scared that I would be the trigger for him to do something bad, even though all I wanted to do was support him and calm him down. Adam has been my friend since 2009. Even if I felt the odds were absolutely stacked against him, I always wanted him to have an epic comeback, find peace, and live happy. But again, because I was kept just outside of arms reach, I had no idea about the things that were going on that Liz described within her message. All I can confidently say is that me and Liz did speak the one time she mentioned we spoke, and it was very brief.
The last time myself and Adam spoke was within the past few months, when he borrowed a bit of "grocery money" from me, which he did 2-3 times within the past year. Nothing overly major, as I would have said no to anything I wasn't comfortable with. The last time he borrowed from me though, I told him it was the last time I could help him financially, unless he was able to pay it back, and have an amazing comeback, whether it be with videos, music, or whatever his life passions were. I just wanted the best for my friend, and I still want the best for my friend. Adam did some truly unforgivable things that other people have shared their stories about, and he's especially done unforgivable things within the past few years, which I believe were directly influenced by him losing the remainder of his earned wealth. I still hope at the end of the day, Adam takes this event as a lesson to TRULY better himself. I know that at this point in his life, his sober mind works against him every single day. As someone who has been battling through trying to balance ADHD medication issues, I can at least respect when your mind just starts saying "no", day in and day out. But again, what Adam did, does not deserve forgiveness yet. I will only consider some kind of forgiveness if he does what I think nobody expect from him at this point, and actually strives to fix his life, and then does so, and proves to even the harshest of skeptics that he's giving it his all. Adam, in 2012, I just wanted you to "want it", and the same rings true in 2022. Work for forgiveness. Work to right your wrongs. Show the world you can change. I won't ever forgive you if you don't. In just the past few months prior to all of this coming out, it did really seem like Adam was trying to improve himself, but he had shown me no real signs of actual progress. I was hopeful, but skeptically so. I have no idea if he was still being a menace to others throughout these past few months or not, so I can't speak on whether or not he was actually improving in any way.
Over the past few months, I have been on the record as saying that I favor the modern generation of "top creators", because despite a few hiccups here and there, they have been far and away a MUCH more positive influence for this generation of viewers than some of the games former "top" creators. Now you know part of the reason as to why I've been saying that. To the modern generation of creators just looking to do their best, I applaud you. Keep doing what you do.
Liz, I'll say again, I truly hope you find the solace you deserve. To anybody else hurt by Adam, I hope you are able to find your own peace. I am happy that you have gotten so much support throughout this time, and I wish you all the best, along with everyone else out there.
-Taylor / AntVenom
My experience with Sky
This isn’t to take away from Elizabeth’s story, it’s time to tell you my experiences with Adam behind the scenes and how they have treated me in the past,
Please support Elizabeth, https://twitter.com/Lizbuggie/status/1485280124467486722
Seeing other content creators come out with their own stories have given me the courage to do the same.
I hope talking about this publicly I can finally put this to bed and let go of the trauma I’ve kept to myself the last 9 years.
Trigger Warnings
Depression, emotional abuse, suicidal thoughts
notes:
Today I wanted to share with you my emotional abuse from him and how they made me feel.
TL;DR VERSION (summarized for convenience)
Adam on numerous occasions in my career told other creators and friends not to associate or work with me. Afraid of Adam's power and not wanting to cut that relationship with Adam, they all agreed. Making it so I was cut off, alone, isolated and unable to trust anyone in the community. To the point where I was depressed and had suicidal thoughts. I asked Adam not to call me jizzygary because I didn't want that label and kids to call me jizzy but he ignored me and said it to his millions of fans who I still call me it, 8 years later. Was afraid of Adam and always walking on eggshells around him.
Cops and Robbers
The first big incident that happened that has still stuck with me all this time is Cops and Robbers,
Podcrash (the creators of Cops and Robbers) and I were in talks a lot and I really wanted to recreate the Halo 3 Forge map “Cops and Robbers” into Minecraft because I thought the roleplay gameplay would be hilarious. I asked Podcrash to make the map. I asked for prisons, a kitchen, showers, multiple ways to escape etc and they built it. I recorded the first video with my friends and it did WAY BETTER than my other type of content.
I decided for my second recording to invite Adam. I showed them my first video, and they liked the concept and agreed. They wanted me in the video as the warden. They invited bigger creators from Team Crafted to be in it. This was huge, and I was excited. We recorded the video and- well… it also blew up…VERY much so. Cops and Robbers became this huge staple in the minecraft community in 2013.
You ever notice why I was never invited back? Despite the fact that I was the one who invited Adam to record it?
I was getting tons of views and subscribers from the cops and robbers explosion. I was messaging Podcrash with ideas to expand the cops and robbers map and continue to grow. I genuinely wanted to work with Podcrash to expand the universe. But they lashed out at me, telling me to back off and to stop stealing their map and their credit. That wasn’t what my intent was. I never took the credit as the builder, but I messaged Podcrash to make Cops and Robbers and I wanted to team up with them to continue to grow the world with some fun ideas, but they didn’t like that I wanted to be involved…even though I was the one to tell them to do it?
There is a clip publicly where I said “I made the map” and they sent that to Adam/TC to make it look like I was stealing the map from them. When in reality when I said I “made” the map, I meant I directed/produced by telling Podcrash what to build and giving them the idea to make Cops and Robbers. I didn’t mean build. I told Podcrash what to build for the first map. This was a miscommunication that could have easily been resolved.
They went to Adam and Team Crafted (TC) about this incident and instead of asking me the full story, they just decided to turn against me.
Adam decided not to invite me back and instead Adam and TC would go and tell other creators this twisted narrative, and everyone else took Adam, Podcrash and Team Crafted’s words and said ‘yeah gizzy sucks’ and disliked me moving forward.
They spun this story to discredit me entirely of cops and robbers and also distant everyone from me. I remember reaching 100,000 subscribers and it felt like I wasn’t allowed to be happy because everyone was mad at me.
I remember joining a team mirroring Team Crafted called “The Squad” and they kicked me because I was too controversial and didn’t want to jeopardise their relationship with Adam/TC.
I was in a call with a content creator in 2013 and I was so upset being treated like this I vented to them my frustration - only for them to tell Team Crafted what I said, to make me look even more like the bad guy, and the rest of Team Crafted distant themselves from me even more. Why did they do this? For brownie points? Stab me in the back to make themselves look better for Adam/TC?
I didn’t know who to trust. Everyone turned against me. I felt so alone. Sure this was mainly Podcrash’s fault, but everyone at the time bowed down to Adam and TC, and they just fed me to the wolves. They didn’t care about what it would do to me or my feelings. And it didn’t matter what I did, because as long as Adam/TC didn’t like me, everyone would pick their side because of their power in 2013. How could I say anything publicly in 2013 with how big they were? I was afraid and just kept my mouth shut and stuck with my friend group.
I would try to talk to Adam and they would just ghost me. I had to attend a UK event, Insomnia 49 to see if they would see me and I was AFRAID to meet them.
Adam and I patched things at the event, and they invited me to their house party where I met with the rest of Team Crafted and we patched things too. I thought this drama was put to bed…
Until 2019, for E3. When at a bar with some creators, a creator mentioned the cops and robbers stuff and that people still keep their distance from me. It opened that wound I thought I put to bed and I realised the cops and robbers drama left a very deep scar around my name and while most don’t know the truth, there is *enough* creators in the space who still don’t like me because of it.
Even last year during MCC Pride the cops and robbers drama was mentioned again with my name… It’s been 9 years and this drama has stuck with me and I never once talked about it publicly because I was afraid. And these creators who don’t like me because of the CnR drama never once asked for my side of the story.
Anytime I think about this incident, it triggers my trauma and I get so anxious and upset again. Adam, Podcrash and TC didn’t know their actions left a tainted scar, even 9 years later.
Arcadiacon 2014 / JizzyGary
A Year has passed and Adam and I were in a pretty good spot together. In fact we teamed up to create Modded Cops and Robbers content together and we ended up filming over 20 of them (roughly). This was really huge for my channel and I’ll always thank Adam for this opportunity and boost. BUT, during a recording of a Modded Cops and Robbers, Adam revealed his phone Siri calls Gizzy Gary “Jizzy Gary”. They showed it to us beforehand and everyone in the call laughed and I chuckled, and I asked them to not say it in the video. They did anyways. I never wanted to be called that, because it’s inappropriate, and I didn’t want that rude label and for kids to call me Jizzy?? No. I didn’t want that at all. I asked Adam not to say it in the recording. He ignored me. Ever since this I’ve always buried that name and ignored anyone who tweeted/commented it.
A summer convention came up called Arcadiacon (2014) that tons of Minecraft creators attended and in fact a few of us stayed an extra week with Adam for a vacation. It was so much fun, except Adam towards the end of it got really quiet and distant and refused to leave his room. We didn’t know why but it turned out it was because they were mad at me (again). While watching some youtube videos on the TV I snapped at our friend because he kept talking over the funny jokes I was trying to watch. Later that day I apologised to that friend and we cleared the air. But for some reason Adam just didn’t let it go. They were just so furious with me and wouldn’t speak with anyone. Even dropping off at the airport was awkward, they just straight up stopped talking to me and I never understood why until later.
This is a repeated behaviour between Adam and I. I was ALWAYS on eggshells around them, because one minute we were friends and then they hated me and then we were best friends and then he hated me again. I remember in University crying because they snapped at me and deleted me off skype. I don’t remember the reason but I remember that feeling of doing something wrong and in tears while in a lecture.
2014 Boycott - this one stuck with me
Shortly after Arcadiacon and Adam didn't like me, I ended up getting into an argument publicly with another creator about not crediting him properly for a map he made. It was water under the bridge after a day and we moved on. Except.. Adam didn’t let it go. I don’t know why they attached themself to hating me so much but they saw this beef between a creator and myself and they decided enough was enough. And they began contacting creators to not work or talk with me. I started to notice creators not responding back to my messages to collaborate or to even chat. I found out from 2-3 close friends that Adam reached out to them to not work with me. A boycott. I suddenly had no one…again. Skydoesminecraft in 2014 was *scary*. Nobody wanted to be on the wrong side of Adam. Look what happened to me. He turned everyone against me twice (this, and cops and robbers).
I’ve only experienced suicidal thoughts twice in my life. The first in 2009 (before Youtube, another story for another time maybe if I want to open that door), and second when I felt so alone and everyone hated me because Adam turned everyone away from me. It felt like Adam hated the fact I was making content so much he wanted me gone and to do that he tried to push everyone away from me. I was alone again.
I remember flying to New York for an event called YouCube (replacing Mineorama last minute) and I noticed everyone was distancing from me again. I remember hanging out with friends and then suddenly “Oh I’m not feeling like hanging out” but then they show pictures of them hanging out with other youtube friends that were in a close circle with Adam. Remember how I already felt so alone?
I flew to Seattle from the UK for PAX west and while there I hoped to talk to Adam at the convention to fix things. I remember it was myself and Bashurverse and another creator inside Bash’s house in 2014 feeling left out when Adam was hosting a party and we weren’t invited. I remember that feeling. That unwanted feeling and everyone not liking you all because of one individual saying so.
Did anyone ask for my side of the story again? No. No one wanted to turn against Adam. It was like a power trip. Everyone was afraid if they turned against Adam they too would be boycotted.
I met up with Adam at the convention, he invited me to his place that afternoon to talk and we did and we cleared the air again (notice I have to go to Adam instead of him reaching out to me?) and suddenly EVERYONE started talking to me again shortly after.
The last Straw
After this incident I kept my distance. Mainly because I didn’t want to say the wrong thing again and suddenly they would hate me and turn everyone against me again. I knew they had that power and I was afraid of them. I was always on thin ice with them because I didn’t want to experience the depression suicidal thoughts again. 2015 my channel blew up doing more roleplay styled content. They were impressed and we started talking again. Adam was focused on Sky Media, and I was focused on my own content. So we were mutual and friendly but working on our own content.
January 2018 rolled around and I played with a “Where are they now” video idea and I found an image of them scruffy and half naked and thought it would be a funny ‘after’ photo. It was a business choice and I was playing with CTR (click through rate on youtube) to see what would get higher clicks. I wasn’t meaning to be malicious but this was a poor choice on my end.
Adam lashed out publicly, sending hate towards my way, and once again (for a third time), people not liking me because of what Adam said. Yes, I shouldn’t have done the thumbnail and that was wrong of me - but couldn’t a private message solve this issue? Cuss me out privately and criticise me for it and happily I’d fix it. But why did it need to be public? Did you WANT me to have hate? I apologised, and removed the thumbnail and- well, that was the last time we spoke. Some time later I noticed they even blocked me. I didn’t even know why? What happened to trigger them to block me in 2018/2019? (Once again no one asked my side of the story. They saw Adam tweeting about the drama and decided ‘wow gizzy is awful’ once again).
I saw this as the final straw. No matter what I do, Adam would just not like me and would continue to have that power over everyone else and make it so no one would talk to me.
It’s like they didn’t like that I was a content creator. Otherwise why try to turn my friends/other creators against me? I still have trauma from the cops and robbers and the 2014 boycott. Any time I think about those incidents I break down. I haven’t spoken or contacted Adam since January 2018.
It’s like they wanted a reason to not like me and I don’t understand what I did honestly for them to turn against me. But I got tired of walking on eggshells around them. I’m tired of the “will they/won’t they like me” every day and I got tired of pretending I was okay. I got tired of them turning to my friends to tell them not to talk to me. I just got tired of all of it so I walked away.
To this day I still experience trauma from all of this. I’m paranoid about creators. I don’t have a lot of trust in other creators anymore. I’ve been sidelined, backstabbed, and used in my 10 years on Youtube and most of this trauma stemmed from my emotional abuse from Adam. Adam made me feel alone in the Minecraft community for so long. And I still have trust issues because of it.
What about the last 4 years, cutting toxic people out of my life? It's honestly been the best 4 years of my life. I’m happily married, own my own home, have a successful career and I have some amazing friends that support me. Despite the trauma and the uphill battle behind the scenes I still kept moving forward.
I just wish I cut Adam out sooner to save me from the trauma I still live with.
This isn’t to take away from Elizabeth’s story, it’s time to tell you my experiences with Adam behind the scenes and how they have treated me in the past,
Please support Elizabeth, https://twitter.com/Lizbuggie/status/1485280124467486722
Seeing other content creators come out with their own stories have given me the courage to do the same.
I hope talking about this publicly I can finally put this to bed and let go of the trauma I’ve kept to myself the last 9 years.
Trigger Warnings
Depression, emotional abuse, suicidal thoughts
notes:
- Keep in mind I don’t have any evidence because a lot of it happened in real life or over on Skype between 2013-2014. I checked through skype to see if I could find anything but there’s nothing. No messages loaded and nothing updated past 2015 for me. They had me blocked a while back on twitter so I can’t seem to access our DM’s either but a lot of the emotional abuse came from skype anyways. I know I don’t have evidence but to me, I’ve wanted to get this off my chest for 9 years. I also never worked with the guy in a company or lived with them.
Today I wanted to share with you my emotional abuse from him and how they made me feel.
- NOTE: I talk about Podcrash during the Cops and Robbers but please do not send them any hate because the people who run Podcrash now were not involved in what happened in 2013.
- NOTE: I mention Team Crafted as well but please do not send them any hate either. This happened a long time ago and some of them are good friends of mine now, I’m just sharing my side of the story of what happened.
TL;DR VERSION (summarized for convenience)
Adam on numerous occasions in my career told other creators and friends not to associate or work with me. Afraid of Adam's power and not wanting to cut that relationship with Adam, they all agreed. Making it so I was cut off, alone, isolated and unable to trust anyone in the community. To the point where I was depressed and had suicidal thoughts. I asked Adam not to call me jizzygary because I didn't want that label and kids to call me jizzy but he ignored me and said it to his millions of fans who I still call me it, 8 years later. Was afraid of Adam and always walking on eggshells around him.
Cops and Robbers
The first big incident that happened that has still stuck with me all this time is Cops and Robbers,
Podcrash (the creators of Cops and Robbers) and I were in talks a lot and I really wanted to recreate the Halo 3 Forge map “Cops and Robbers” into Minecraft because I thought the roleplay gameplay would be hilarious. I asked Podcrash to make the map. I asked for prisons, a kitchen, showers, multiple ways to escape etc and they built it. I recorded the first video with my friends and it did WAY BETTER than my other type of content.
I decided for my second recording to invite Adam. I showed them my first video, and they liked the concept and agreed. They wanted me in the video as the warden. They invited bigger creators from Team Crafted to be in it. This was huge, and I was excited. We recorded the video and- well… it also blew up…VERY much so. Cops and Robbers became this huge staple in the minecraft community in 2013.
You ever notice why I was never invited back? Despite the fact that I was the one who invited Adam to record it?
I was getting tons of views and subscribers from the cops and robbers explosion. I was messaging Podcrash with ideas to expand the cops and robbers map and continue to grow. I genuinely wanted to work with Podcrash to expand the universe. But they lashed out at me, telling me to back off and to stop stealing their map and their credit. That wasn’t what my intent was. I never took the credit as the builder, but I messaged Podcrash to make Cops and Robbers and I wanted to team up with them to continue to grow the world with some fun ideas, but they didn’t like that I wanted to be involved…even though I was the one to tell them to do it?
There is a clip publicly where I said “I made the map” and they sent that to Adam/TC to make it look like I was stealing the map from them. When in reality when I said I “made” the map, I meant I directed/produced by telling Podcrash what to build and giving them the idea to make Cops and Robbers. I didn’t mean build. I told Podcrash what to build for the first map. This was a miscommunication that could have easily been resolved.
They went to Adam and Team Crafted (TC) about this incident and instead of asking me the full story, they just decided to turn against me.
Adam decided not to invite me back and instead Adam and TC would go and tell other creators this twisted narrative, and everyone else took Adam, Podcrash and Team Crafted’s words and said ‘yeah gizzy sucks’ and disliked me moving forward.
They spun this story to discredit me entirely of cops and robbers and also distant everyone from me. I remember reaching 100,000 subscribers and it felt like I wasn’t allowed to be happy because everyone was mad at me.
I remember joining a team mirroring Team Crafted called “The Squad” and they kicked me because I was too controversial and didn’t want to jeopardise their relationship with Adam/TC.
I was in a call with a content creator in 2013 and I was so upset being treated like this I vented to them my frustration - only for them to tell Team Crafted what I said, to make me look even more like the bad guy, and the rest of Team Crafted distant themselves from me even more. Why did they do this? For brownie points? Stab me in the back to make themselves look better for Adam/TC?
I didn’t know who to trust. Everyone turned against me. I felt so alone. Sure this was mainly Podcrash’s fault, but everyone at the time bowed down to Adam and TC, and they just fed me to the wolves. They didn’t care about what it would do to me or my feelings. And it didn’t matter what I did, because as long as Adam/TC didn’t like me, everyone would pick their side because of their power in 2013. How could I say anything publicly in 2013 with how big they were? I was afraid and just kept my mouth shut and stuck with my friend group.
I would try to talk to Adam and they would just ghost me. I had to attend a UK event, Insomnia 49 to see if they would see me and I was AFRAID to meet them.
Adam and I patched things at the event, and they invited me to their house party where I met with the rest of Team Crafted and we patched things too. I thought this drama was put to bed…
Until 2019, for E3. When at a bar with some creators, a creator mentioned the cops and robbers stuff and that people still keep their distance from me. It opened that wound I thought I put to bed and I realised the cops and robbers drama left a very deep scar around my name and while most don’t know the truth, there is *enough* creators in the space who still don’t like me because of it.
Even last year during MCC Pride the cops and robbers drama was mentioned again with my name… It’s been 9 years and this drama has stuck with me and I never once talked about it publicly because I was afraid. And these creators who don’t like me because of the CnR drama never once asked for my side of the story.
Anytime I think about this incident, it triggers my trauma and I get so anxious and upset again. Adam, Podcrash and TC didn’t know their actions left a tainted scar, even 9 years later.
Arcadiacon 2014 / JizzyGary
A Year has passed and Adam and I were in a pretty good spot together. In fact we teamed up to create Modded Cops and Robbers content together and we ended up filming over 20 of them (roughly). This was really huge for my channel and I’ll always thank Adam for this opportunity and boost. BUT, during a recording of a Modded Cops and Robbers, Adam revealed his phone Siri calls Gizzy Gary “Jizzy Gary”. They showed it to us beforehand and everyone in the call laughed and I chuckled, and I asked them to not say it in the video. They did anyways. I never wanted to be called that, because it’s inappropriate, and I didn’t want that rude label and for kids to call me Jizzy?? No. I didn’t want that at all. I asked Adam not to say it in the recording. He ignored me. Ever since this I’ve always buried that name and ignored anyone who tweeted/commented it.
A summer convention came up called Arcadiacon (2014) that tons of Minecraft creators attended and in fact a few of us stayed an extra week with Adam for a vacation. It was so much fun, except Adam towards the end of it got really quiet and distant and refused to leave his room. We didn’t know why but it turned out it was because they were mad at me (again). While watching some youtube videos on the TV I snapped at our friend because he kept talking over the funny jokes I was trying to watch. Later that day I apologised to that friend and we cleared the air. But for some reason Adam just didn’t let it go. They were just so furious with me and wouldn’t speak with anyone. Even dropping off at the airport was awkward, they just straight up stopped talking to me and I never understood why until later.
This is a repeated behaviour between Adam and I. I was ALWAYS on eggshells around them, because one minute we were friends and then they hated me and then we were best friends and then he hated me again. I remember in University crying because they snapped at me and deleted me off skype. I don’t remember the reason but I remember that feeling of doing something wrong and in tears while in a lecture.
2014 Boycott - this one stuck with me
Shortly after Arcadiacon and Adam didn't like me, I ended up getting into an argument publicly with another creator about not crediting him properly for a map he made. It was water under the bridge after a day and we moved on. Except.. Adam didn’t let it go. I don’t know why they attached themself to hating me so much but they saw this beef between a creator and myself and they decided enough was enough. And they began contacting creators to not work or talk with me. I started to notice creators not responding back to my messages to collaborate or to even chat. I found out from 2-3 close friends that Adam reached out to them to not work with me. A boycott. I suddenly had no one…again. Skydoesminecraft in 2014 was *scary*. Nobody wanted to be on the wrong side of Adam. Look what happened to me. He turned everyone against me twice (this, and cops and robbers).
I’ve only experienced suicidal thoughts twice in my life. The first in 2009 (before Youtube, another story for another time maybe if I want to open that door), and second when I felt so alone and everyone hated me because Adam turned everyone away from me. It felt like Adam hated the fact I was making content so much he wanted me gone and to do that he tried to push everyone away from me. I was alone again.
I remember flying to New York for an event called YouCube (replacing Mineorama last minute) and I noticed everyone was distancing from me again. I remember hanging out with friends and then suddenly “Oh I’m not feeling like hanging out” but then they show pictures of them hanging out with other youtube friends that were in a close circle with Adam. Remember how I already felt so alone?
I flew to Seattle from the UK for PAX west and while there I hoped to talk to Adam at the convention to fix things. I remember it was myself and Bashurverse and another creator inside Bash’s house in 2014 feeling left out when Adam was hosting a party and we weren’t invited. I remember that feeling. That unwanted feeling and everyone not liking you all because of one individual saying so.
Did anyone ask for my side of the story again? No. No one wanted to turn against Adam. It was like a power trip. Everyone was afraid if they turned against Adam they too would be boycotted.
I met up with Adam at the convention, he invited me to his place that afternoon to talk and we did and we cleared the air again (notice I have to go to Adam instead of him reaching out to me?) and suddenly EVERYONE started talking to me again shortly after.
The last Straw
After this incident I kept my distance. Mainly because I didn’t want to say the wrong thing again and suddenly they would hate me and turn everyone against me again. I knew they had that power and I was afraid of them. I was always on thin ice with them because I didn’t want to experience the depression suicidal thoughts again. 2015 my channel blew up doing more roleplay styled content. They were impressed and we started talking again. Adam was focused on Sky Media, and I was focused on my own content. So we were mutual and friendly but working on our own content.
January 2018 rolled around and I played with a “Where are they now” video idea and I found an image of them scruffy and half naked and thought it would be a funny ‘after’ photo. It was a business choice and I was playing with CTR (click through rate on youtube) to see what would get higher clicks. I wasn’t meaning to be malicious but this was a poor choice on my end.
Adam lashed out publicly, sending hate towards my way, and once again (for a third time), people not liking me because of what Adam said. Yes, I shouldn’t have done the thumbnail and that was wrong of me - but couldn’t a private message solve this issue? Cuss me out privately and criticise me for it and happily I’d fix it. But why did it need to be public? Did you WANT me to have hate? I apologised, and removed the thumbnail and- well, that was the last time we spoke. Some time later I noticed they even blocked me. I didn’t even know why? What happened to trigger them to block me in 2018/2019? (Once again no one asked my side of the story. They saw Adam tweeting about the drama and decided ‘wow gizzy is awful’ once again).
I saw this as the final straw. No matter what I do, Adam would just not like me and would continue to have that power over everyone else and make it so no one would talk to me.
It’s like they didn’t like that I was a content creator. Otherwise why try to turn my friends/other creators against me? I still have trauma from the cops and robbers and the 2014 boycott. Any time I think about those incidents I break down. I haven’t spoken or contacted Adam since January 2018.
It’s like they wanted a reason to not like me and I don’t understand what I did honestly for them to turn against me. But I got tired of walking on eggshells around them. I’m tired of the “will they/won’t they like me” every day and I got tired of pretending I was okay. I got tired of them turning to my friends to tell them not to talk to me. I just got tired of all of it so I walked away.
To this day I still experience trauma from all of this. I’m paranoid about creators. I don’t have a lot of trust in other creators anymore. I’ve been sidelined, backstabbed, and used in my 10 years on Youtube and most of this trauma stemmed from my emotional abuse from Adam. Adam made me feel alone in the Minecraft community for so long. And I still have trust issues because of it.
What about the last 4 years, cutting toxic people out of my life? It's honestly been the best 4 years of my life. I’m happily married, own my own home, have a successful career and I have some amazing friends that support me. Despite the trauma and the uphill battle behind the scenes I still kept moving forward.
I just wish I cut Adam out sooner to save me from the trauma I still live with.
I feel kind of relieved that this stuff is finally coming to light. I worked for Adam for almost half a decade from when I was just 15 years old. I gave up everything - my social life, my sleep, school - to work 20h/day for him - as a child There was a point where I was editing 6 videos, did 6 thumbnails per DAY + 2 animations per month for the guy. I worked so incredibly hard. My parents and I were even willing to relocate just so I could continue working for him because of all the promises he made After all of that hard work and loyalty to him, one day, I get this email, and it was over. He didn't even have the courtesy to tell me himself. He never thanked me or even acknowledged me anywhere for running almost everything on his channel for so many years I was crushed
I've always felt sour about it. I never found out why he let me go. But god DAMN getting fired was the BEST thing that has ever happened to me. He treats people who work for him like shit. He would tell me he couldn't afford to pay me while his channel made millions
I've always felt sour about it. I never found out why he let me go. But god DAMN getting fired was the BEST thing that has ever happened to me. He treats people who work for him like shit. He would tell me he couldn't afford to pay me while his channel made millions
Working at Skymedia was the darkest period of my life that I've ever and probably will ever have. Eventually the constant gaslighting and mental torture lead me to nearly kill myself but I decided to take my situation into my own hands and quit/move as far as I could. Since then it has been a years long battle of trying to rebuild my self-worth and I'm not sure if I'll ever be back to 100% but I'll keep trying. I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who believed me and my friends who helped keep me sane at my darkest points 
I don't feel like going into details, but one fun situation was when my mom had a heart attack and I wanted to go visit her to see if she was OK. This was one of the many times my "loyalty" was threatened and my job was held over my head cause I "had more videos to edit" 
It sounds absurd now but with the fact that none of my relocation costs to Seattle were paid for by the company that decision gets a little harder
I don't feel like going into details, but one fun situation was when my mom had a heart attack and I wanted to go visit her to see if she was OK. This was one of the many times my "loyalty" was threatened and my job was held over my head cause I "had more videos to edit" It sounds absurd now but with the fact that none of my relocation costs to Seattle were paid for by the company that decision gets a little harderSky/Adam - The perspective of Austin
( I’m gonna start this off by letting you all know my involvement with Adam/how I came along in the story. If you don’t care, skip to the paragraph with “ *** ” in front of it. )
////HEAVY TRIGGER WARNING////
I met Adam roughly 2 years ago when they started making another attempt at coming back to content creation. During that time, they were streaming on YouTube and that’s how we were able to speak to each other, the chat. We’d talk about their old days and about our similarities like how we’re both parents, both born and raised in Washington state, etc. After a while, they asked if I wanted to join them to play games for some streams and I happily obliged. Playing games with one of the creators I looked up to the most??? Pffff, how could that ever go wrong!? From there we got to know each other better and became close friends. I would frequently call with them and visit at their house. I got involved with their behind-the-scenes team of people to support their career. I was an admin of their Discord server, a mod for their Twitch and YouTube streams, a “talent” for some content, as well as what was later known (half-jokingly) as “damage control”.. which, in short, were the people who would keep tabs on Adam to make sure they didn’t do/say anything that would jeopardize their career, or worse, harm themself or others. Sounds super fun, right? It was all of these responsibilities and experiences that put me in some awful situations and allowed me to witnesses what they were truly capable of.
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1) Manipulation
Unfortunately, like many others, I’ve faced my fair share of abusive/manipulative people. I know what it looks like when someone used manipulative tactics to get people to do what the abuser wants… and boy did I see lots of that. If there was a checkbox of manipulative/mentally abusive tactics and behaviors, Adam could’ve easily hit each box by the end of the day. Anyone and everyone involved with them in any way was inevitably at risk of falling victim to their tactics. But you’re here for my side, so let me share what they’d try on me.
Adam told me many times about how they saw me as a successor. Calling me things like “Sky 2”, “Caine” (son of Adam in the Bible), “The next Sky”, etc. To my knowledge, but not to my surprise, they didn’t express this same enthusiasm for me to other people. Because it was a tool for *me*. A title they knew I valued. They would suggest I do things I wasn’t comfortable with (as much as I’d like you all to know, I’m just not comfortable discussing all that) and when those things were rejected I was told things like “that’s not very Sky of you” and “Maybe I was wrong about you” as an attempt to make me “earn” my title.. by doing what they wanted from me. I’m of course not the only person he manipulated at all, but those are not my stories to tell.
2) Irresponsibility
As I’ve stated before, Adam and I are both parents.. well, I’m a parent and they happen to be biologically related to two children… But that’s besides the point. On a few times I’ve been over to their house, their son was also home to visit. A child needs care from their parent, so what did they do? Adam did the bare minimum, if that, and then left to his room. You wanna know who watched Mason? Me. Who got him snacks? Me. Who got games on and watched TV with him? Me. Childcare is nothing new to me and never a bother, so I don’t want this to sound like Mason was a burden left on me. He’s honestly one of the sweetest souls I’ve met and I loved kicking it with him. However, Adam’s very apparent lack of responsibility and care really shined through to me that day and angered me to my core. I just couldn’t wrap my head around it. Then they’d compare us as equals and preach online of how they’re such an amazing parent.. it made me sick to my stomach.
And then there was poor Albert..
Adam’s dog Albert was often fed things a dog should never be eating. Candy, junk food, sweet drinks, etc. It was clear by his behavior and, to be frank.. his farts, just how badly he was nourished. And whenever he would do things a poorly-trained pup would do, he would be thrown outside in the cold rain. Adam is not fit to be a pet owner whatsoever.
On relationships, of any kind for that matter, they lack the responsibility to properly care for another person in their life. Friends, family, partners, you name it. They can’t even take care of themself, how should they be expected to care for others? And I don’t just mean they’re neglectful, I mean downright hurtful. I’ve never met a single person that he showed true love to the way you do when you truly care for someone. They could snap and hurt you at the toss of a dime with no remorse. He genuinely is not fit for relations of any kind. If they were constantly nice to you, you either 1. weren’t close enough with them 2. consistently did what they wanted of you 3. got lucky. I both envy you and feel relieved for you.
When it came to their career, they was never the one to take action. The team I was involved with, as well as Liz, did EVERYTHING except *be Adam*. We scheduled his activities, got him to wake up and work, contacted business opportunities, coordinated collaborations, and gave whatever we could to settle his community while he went MIA. The amount of utter stress some of us went through to keep him afloat and keep his fans happy.. They’re lucky we were all as selfless as we were, no one should be expected to go through the hoops we jumped in order to save a career that arguably wasn’t even his doing anymore.
3) Substance abuse
I want to preface this by saying addiction is a serious matter and I’ll never blame anyone for being addicted to any substance of any kind. However, addiction does not excuse bad actions and Adam’s story with substance abuse isn’t just a matter of fighting addiction.
Adam would talk about use of so many substances that at this point I don’t even remember them all, but for this I’m only going to be talking about his use of shrooms specifically, because that’s enough to get my point across. Adam would dose shrooms nearly every day. Sometimes he’d actually take a break, but sometimes he would SAY he’s taking a break/putting a stop to it, but in reality he was still doing it. They only ever lied about stopping shrooms to get what they wanted. They would believe delusions and hallucinations they’d see while on shrooms and when you tried to tell them that those things weren’t true they’d just tell you that you were crazy and unintelligent for not being “woke” enough to understand. They’d often pressure other people into dosing with him, including myself. I never gave in, but they tried on multiple occasions.
4) Misc.
[I don’t exactly have enough points for these specific things to get a whole topic written out, so I’m just gonna list some additional things they’ve done]
-They attempted a few non-consensual advances on me while under the influence
-They video called me on multiple occasions with nothing but underwear on, once naked in the bathroom (I didn’t see anything, but still weird.)
-They once implied they were a god-like being and that humanity as a whole was below them
-Constantly demonized/villainized people currently and no longer involved in his life. Ex: Post Malone is the anti-Christ, ex-teamcrafted members are diagnosed psychopaths, Mason’s mom has devil blood/is a snake woman, etc.
-Told me (no matter how much good she did for them) that Liz was terrible and that they feel no remorse doing things like cheating and admitted multiple times about their abusive acts towards her (then implied he’d cheat on her with me, possibly as a joke, but still not ok)
-Showed me pictures of a “homunculus” they “birthed” (which was clearly semen..)
-Was convinced I was an elemental bender (“Like me”, they said) and got genuinely mad when I denied that it was true, then threatened to “blood bend” my heart if I tried “hiding” my abilities from them again (then later profusely apologized on call the next day, probably in fear I’d tell someone)
-Promised pay for my work over and over (spoiler alert, I was never payed a dime..)
-Told me to name my son after them, then attempted to guilt-trip me when I denied
-Got upset with me because they believed that I was stealing their energy from their dream-self to relieve my insomnia
Theirs a few more things they’ve done.. but for my own safety and mental health, I don’t feel comfortable sharing those. I’m not financially stable enough to risk a court case and I’m already at risk of taking heat from their fans as-is.
If you took the time to read all of this, I really appreciate it. I’m thankful you took time to see my point of view on this matter.
A few last notes..
-Yes, Adam is very mentally ill, they need help, but they’ll dodge that help as much as they can and trying to convince them to get help will get you nowhere. At this point, it’s best for you to keep your distance from them and allow them to do it themselves.
-No, Adam’s mental illness does not excuse ANY of his behavior. Many many people deal with various forms of mental illness in their everyday lives and it doesn’t stop them from *not* being a scummy person if they truly care to *not* be a scummy person.
-Their are too many people affected to this day by his actions to even count. Adam doesn’t deserve a platform where they can go to harm more people. This is the end of their presence online.
-Do NOT, for ANY reason, attempt to approach Adam about anything at all. You’re putting yourself at risk.
-Finally, Adam has done treacherous things, HOWEVER that does not in any circumstance warrant you sending them death threats. I don’t tolerate that at all. Stop supporting them, support their victims, and leave it at that.
That’s all I have to say. Thank you.
-Skelly/Austin
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Is it just me or did some other YouTuber have a similar situation? Filming his schizophrenic arm candy curled up in the shower? I had a deja vu moment
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This really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Dude can garner sympathy but it's clear he has mental issues.
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When a fully grown adult plays with children who are not his in a playground you call the fucking cops.
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Let's see him build himself a way out.
OK that joke was bad.
Seriously though is anyone surprised
OK that joke was bad.
Seriously though is anyone surprised
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It seems that Sky and everyone that he interacts with seem to be either mentally ill or people that can't seem to leave obvious shitty situations until it reaches a boiling point.
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Would it kill TC to put a tl;dr in the OP?
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sounds like someone who would be in an insane asylum's highest possible lockdown than someone who would have struck it big on youtube, or someone like The Joker.
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Can you fags stop arguing like troons and actually start talking and documenting shit on Sky?
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How old is the guy? Some people in their twenties can legitimately just become schizophrenic, especially after some sort of drug use.
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I apologize.
As for sky, I have seen one or two videos from him a few years before and found him to be just another typical minecraft youtuber, and I have no doubt he is more aware of what he did than simply laying the blame on schizoshittery. Perhaps his women have the typical battered wife troubles, but that does not necessarily mean they are not bitches. Even if they are, assholes do not deserve every punishment in the world merely for being assholes.
As of always, there are people who "ALWAYS KNEW" yet never had opened their mouths before the metaphorical c4 exploded. They should just keep their fucking mouths shut and follow police procedure if they have anything useful to say.
Someone really ought to make a study on how the lazy youtuber lifestyle affects a certain type of individual, though data may be lacking.