Adventure Time/Fionna and Cake

[SandyCat]

My biggest gripe of the show was the writing being all over the place. Apparently it later turned out it was due to various staff members trying to shove their own plot lines into the show that never really got fleshed out for the most part.

Then the finale came along which was a bunch of complete randomness because they had no coherent storyline to make a proper finale

 

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

My biggest gripe of the show was the writing being all over the place. Apparently it later turned out it was due to various staff members trying to shove their own plot lines into the show that never really got fleshed out for the most part.

From what I heard (although I can't remember where or when so it might be fake) Pendleton Ward didn't really stand up to his staff and just let them do whatever they wanted.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

From what I heard (although I can't remember where or when so it might be fake) Pendleton Ward didn't really stand up to his staff and just let them do whatever they wanted.

Pendleton left after season 2 or 3. The dude couldn’t seem to handle working on the project and left it all up to Adam Muto.

Then the finale came along which was a bunch of complete randomness because they had no coherent storyline to make a proper finale

The writers were too confident and thought they would get another season. You can tell that season 10 was supposed to be the Fern and Gumbald arc, but got cut short. The sad part is that seasons 8-9 did well having story arcs that were concise and had an end.

The final was a disaster of disjointed plot points needing to end. If I could redo season 10, I definitely would have cut Gumbald out and had the season just focus on Finn’s growth set next to Fern and the magic to bring Simon back resulting in Golb. Gumbald was unnecessary and dragged out the final, along with the weird return of Jermaine.

 

[Life is Hell...]

Here's all the episodes so far for anyone interested.

Spoiler

https://mega.nz/folder/HyQAmJZA#0K0K8_87YV4YN9SMu10olw

 

[Mariposa2.0 LTE]

The series has kind of blown me away so far. It's kind of sad. The show's intensity points to it being a limited series. Instead of Simon being involved, I wish the lych and Billy would have gotten a more indepth backstory.

 

[AskeDead]

It's shocking how bad this Fiona and Cake show is lmfao. Adventure Time was so fun and had such a fun world. What the fuck happened.

 

[Coolio55]

I actually really used to like Adventure time but then it completely dropped off the map for me until the finale and then I forgot about it again.
I was 100% into it when it first came out. I'm not even sure if it was airing in the UK at the time but I pirated it off some random guy's jwplayer(?) website (Sidenote: Anyone here remember AllSP for South Park?). It was the right thing at the right time for me: Some young teenage blondie fighting things and trying to get with girls waay too old for him. All set in a fantasy world filled with crass humour and computer game references.
It completely differentiated itself from its contemporaries and would soon be imitated to death. It was "Rick and Morty" before the actual Rick and Morty.

Anyway, I stopped keeping up for no particular reason and thus got to watch the nuclear fireball on /co/ from safely behind the blast shields. That's yet another massive bullet I've dodged by complete accident.

Might be worth a revisit if what @Basic_Blond_Boy says is true though.

The series has kind of blown me away so far. It's kind of sad. The show's intensity points to it being a limited series. Instead of Simon being involved, I wish the lych and Billy would have gotten a more indepth backstory.

I haven't actually seen it (and wouldn't get the context even if I did) so I'm not sure what passes for "intense" in current year but count your blessings if it's limited. We live in an age of shows kept on life support long past their prime; distorted and disgraced beyond all recognition. Sometimes dead is better.

Comics also have them end up with Finn after he turns 18 and becomes a buff chad.

I assumed you were just referencing that flash forward where PB states that age differences aren't a big deal to adults (boy did that quote age well!) and they embrace but no, I looked it up and whoever was in charge of the comic (both Ryan North and Christopher Hastings) apparently worked really hard to bail out the ship. Canon be damned. The funniest part is that they didn't change it after Bubbeline, they just made it a threesome. Canon wars behind the scenes are usually awful but this is hilarious.

I remember getting the first comic omnibus from my local Waterstones (along with Watchmen) and it was displayed a handwritten note of recommendation from the staff. I don't remember what it said other than it being - in retrospect - super cringe and having "totally mathmatical!" somewhere.

Ps. Anyone remember Bravest Warriors? That's another show that I accidentally dumped before the big reveal. How much did they fuck that one up?

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Might be worth a revisit if what @Basic_Blond_Boy says is true though.

It is a great show, it just has a rough middle season. As a watch guide for seasons 5-6, absolutely skip:

• Web Weirdos (Season 4 episode)
• Dream of Love (Another season 4 episode, but it is gross AF, just know Treetrunks and Mr Pig get together)
• Up a Tree
• Davey
• Wizards Only, Fools
• Root Beer Guy
• Lemonhope Part 1 & 2 (Just know Lemongrab dies and is remade)
• James II
• Sad Face
• The Cooler (PB at her worst)
• Chips & Ice Cream
• Water Park Prank
• Cherry Cream Soda (Season 7 episode that follows Root Beer Guy)
• Any Fionna & Cake episode till season 8's Five Short Tables, they are all shipping bait.

The show becomes way less agonizing during the middle with these removed. Most of them are pointless world building episodes that go no-where and follow characters you will never see again, or are just rough comedy episodes. There are still rough episodes, but many get resolved as the series goes on, so it is worth pushing through. I will just set a warning that these episodes are not the greatest:

• Finn The Human
• Jake The Dog
• All The Little People - Finn is a creep
• Jake The Dad - Plotline of Jake being a dad went nowhere, but his kids are more interesting later
• Frost & Fire - A lot of symbolism and Finn getting bad
• The Box Prince - Love or hate episode, it was intentionally made to be pointless
• Breezy - Weirdo hookup culture plotline.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Full series is done, and it was okay.

 

[Betonhaus]

The ending was nice.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

More like Fiona got that cake amirite?

 

[Colon capital V]

Maaaan, they did my boy Marshall dirty in this series. Not just for being a buck broken nigger for dat BBC (Big Bubblegum Cock) DOE gay, but for making him go full-on negro. I don't really like using this word, but him and Marceline felt like they were Hispanic coded and really had that Latino/Latina energy to them. And to see them make him a blackie probably for diversity points just makes his character way lamer.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

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Maaaan, they did my boy Marshall dirty in this series. Not just for being a buck broken nigger for dat BBC (Big Bubblegum Cock) DOE gay, but for making him go full-on negro. I don't really like using this word, but him and Marceline felt like they were Hispanic coded and really had that Latino/Latina energy to them. And to see them make him a blackie probably for diversity points just makes his character way lamer.

Marceline's mom was black previously:

 

[Colon capital V]

Marceline's mom was black previously:

Forgot to mention an interesting point I saw on /co/: The point of Marceline's character is that she's part human and part monster (well that and + 5 other vampire monsters in her for power), and naturally the same can be said for Marshall. Translating "half human, half monster" to a mixed race individual would've been fine and made sense contextually for this series, but Marshall is like 100% negro. Even if he is mixed, even if they wanted to go down the blacked route, they should've at least made him lighterskinned and still have some african qualities to him to give the audience the signs. But no, they obviously wouldn't do that because he wouldn't hit the diversity checkbox quota, so full-on negro he goes.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

I binged it. It's not about Fiona and her cat. It's about former ice king and him letting go of his past. And it is better than some distant lands specials, like one with two dykes.

 

[Mariposa2.0 LTE]

It is a great show, it just has a rough middle season. As a watch guide for seasons 5-6, absolutely skip:

• Web Weirdos (Season 4 episode)
• Dream of Love (Another season 4 episode, but it is gross AF, just know Treetrunks and Mr Pig get together)
• Up a Tree
• Davey
• Wizards Only, Fools
• Root Beer Guy
• Lemonhope Part 1 & 2 (Just know Lemongrab dies and is remade)
• James II
• Sad Face
• The Cooler (PB at her worst)
• Chips & Ice Cream
• Water Park Prank
• Cherry Cream Soda (Season 7 episode that follows Root Beer Guy)
• Any Fionna & Cake episode till season 8's Five Short Tables, they are all shipping bait.

The show becomes way less agonizing during the middle with these removed. Most of them are pointless world building episodes that go no-where and follow characters you will never see again, or are just rough comedy episodes. There are still rough episodes, but many get resolved as the series goes on, so it is worth pushing through. I will just set a warning that these episodes are not the greatest:

• Finn The Human
• Jake The Dog
• All The Little People - Finn is a creep
• Jake The Dad - Plotline of Jake being a dad went nowhere, but his kids are more interesting later
• Frost & Fire - A lot of symbolism and Finn getting bad
• The Box Prince - Love or hate episode, it was intentionally made to be pointless
• Breezy - Weirdo hookup culture plotline.

Hmm. I like the concept of all the pups, but it kind of becomes pointless if you can't expand upon the future Pup kingdom with Gibbon and Beth. I also like the concept of the end, but it felt forced and rushed. Like, instead of making dumb episodes about rootbeer guy, why not expand upon the lore, which will lead to the finale. Honestly, Rootbeer Guy was a curvaceous cuck, and they wasted too much time on dumb characters like that.

 

[madethistocomment]

Marceline's mom was black previously:

I always thought her mom was native, ngl. Straight brown hair, medium brown skin, lives in a trailer in the middle of the fucking desert, it fits. It'd also explain why Marceline's got stick-straight hair, even as a kid. Half-black kids don't have naturally straight hair, ever.

 

[SpiderBitch]

I always thought her mom was native, ngl. Straight brown hair, medium brown skin, lives in a trailer in the middle of the fucking desert, it fits. It'd also explain why Marceline's got stick-straight hair, even as a kid. Half-black kids don't have naturally straight hair, ever.

What if theyre implying that if marcelines literal monster of a father was a human, hed be black?

That being said, I think this is mostly just to match Donald Glover, if hes still the VA. Changing the hair texture is dumb tho, not only does it make 0 sense while the other characters look as much like their og versions as possible (I saw screencaps and initially didnt even realise this one was supposed to be marshall), but with brown skin and straight black hair he could literally pass as almost any race out there

 

[Bob Barbas]

As someone who also grew up watching this show but kinda just stopped giving a shit it's kind of nice to see other people share my thought of how the series started to go down the shitter when they tried to do DEEP LORE the show should've just stayed goofy bullshit. But if I say this anywhere else I get shit on and told I don't get it or whatever.

Like, okay. Time to sperg, you can just not read this if you like but I've wanted to say this for awhile.

Spoiler: Sperging

I don't mind the show having lore and shit. That's literally fucking unavoidable. But I feel like they should've kept the tone consistent as in they should've kept the show goofy and nonsensical because now that they're trying to make sense of the nonsense it's impossible and there's so much shit that doesn't work or just doesn't make sense and if I sat here listing it all it would take all day. You know what I'm talking about though. I also feel like the whole "Post apocalypse" setting reveal was really dumb due to the aforementioned reasons. If they had just never addressed the seeming remnants of human civilization in the backgrounds I'd have been fine with it. It would've and honestly should've stayed one of those fan theories and left at that.

I dunno, it's just so tiring seeing this goofy nonsense show try to be dark and serious. It also feels overdone like... is anyone else tired of "Oh here is cutesy thing but actually cutesy thing is fucked up." everyone is doing it to the point I'm tired of it. It'd be a shocker if there was a series now that actually was just silly and not secretly some post WW3 world or whatever the fuck the lore is now.
Also why are so many random side characters secretly gods or some bullshit? Like Magic Man who was originally just some asshole (literally he loved being an asshole) is actually the brother of some martian god or some insane bullshit? Or how Ice King the goofy motherfucker turned out to secretly be a surviving human from the old world who has a tragic dead wife or whatever the fuck.
Also, nobody talks about how on paper Marceline sounds like a deviant art OC with how she's half human, half demon and also a vampire and she has all these cool powers (That she never uses for some reason.) see? The more you think about it the more ridiculous it starts to become. I honestly feel like the show should've just stuck to being goofy episodic adventures and not taking itself seriously at all. Because trying to make a show like this serious was just a mistake.

 

[Bob Barbas]

What if theyre implying that if marcelines literal monster of a father was a human, hed be black?

That being said, I think this is mostly just to match Donald Glover, if hes still the VA. Changing the hair texture is dumb tho, not only does it make 0 sense while the other characters look as much like their og versions as possible (I saw screencaps and initially didnt even realise this one was supposed to be marshall), but with brown skin and straight black hair he could literally pass as almost any race out there

I hate to double post but on that subject did they ever explain how Hunson scored? Like, how the fuck did Abadeer get pussy? I'm serious. I wanna know how the fuck he met the niggress in the first place and conceived Marceline. This is another thing I felt would've worked better if the show stayed a "Don't think about it too hard." type show. He's supposed to be like a demon right? Not only that but like the lord of evil at that. Yet he cares for Marceline I guess? And apparently his wife or at least he somehow managed to get far enough to get into her pants.

I'm dead serious, I want them to tell us THAT story. I want to know how the lord of evil whose only concern seems to be devouring souls managed to fuck.