Opinion Afghanistan Is Your Fault - The American public now has what it wanted.


By Tom Nichols

Kabul has fallen. Americans will now exercise their usual partisan outrage for a few weeks, and then Afghanistan, like everything else in a nation with an attention span not much longer than a fast-food commercial, will be forgotten. In the meantime, American citizens will separate into their usual camps and identify all of the obvious causes and culprits except for one: themselves.

Many Americans will bristle at the idea that this defeat overseas can be laid at their feet. When U.S. forces had to endure the misery of the retreat from North Korea back to the 38th parallel, no one made the argument that it had happened because of the voters. No one turned to the American people during the fall of Saigon and said, “This is on you.”

So why would I do that now?

Much of what happened in Korea and Vietnam—ultimately constituting a tie and a loss, if we are to be accurate—was beyond the control of the American public. Boys were drafted and sent into battle, sometimes in missions never intended to be revealed to the public.

Afghanistan was different. This was a war that was immensely popular at the outset and mostly conducted in full view of the American public. The problem was that, once the initial euphoria wore off, the public wasn’t much interested in it. Coverage in print media remained solid, but cable-news coverage of Afghanistan dropped off quickly, especially once a new adventure was launched in Iraq.

In post-2001 America, it became fashionable to speak of “war weariness,” but citizens who were not in the military or part of a military family or community did not have to endure even minor inconveniences, much less shoulder major burdens such as a draft, a war tax, or resource shortages. The soldiers who served overseas in those first years of major operations soon felt forgotten. “America’s not at war” was a common refrain among the troops. “We’re at war. America’s at the mall.”

And now those same Americans have the full withdrawal from Afghanistan they apparently want: Some 70 percent of the public supports a pullout. Not that they care that intensely about it; as the foreign-policy scholar Stephen Biddle recently observed, the war is practically an afterthought in U.S. politics. “You would need an electron microscope to detect the effect of Afghanistan on any congressional race in the last decade,” Biddle said early this year. “It’s been invisible.” But Presidents Obama, Trump, and Biden all ran on getting out of the war, and now we’re out.

What the public does care about, however, is using Afghanistan as raw material for cheap patriotism and partisan attacks (some right and some wrong, but few of them in good faith) on every president since 2001. After the worst attack on U.S. soil, Americans had no real interest in adult conversation about the reality of anti-terrorist operations in so harsh an environment as Afghanistan (which might have entailed a presence there long beyond 20 years), nor did they want to think about whether “draining the swamp” and modernizing and developing Afghanistan (which would mean a lot more than a few elections) was worth the cost and effort.

Maybe it would have been worth it. Or maybe such a project was impossible. We’ll never know for certain, because American political and military leaders only tried pieces of several strategies, never a coherent whole, mostly to keep the costs and casualties down and to keep the war off the front pages and away from a public that didn’t want to hear about it. Today, many claim that they did not know what the military or the government were really up to, and they point to The Washington Post’s attempt to create a Pentagon Papers vibe around a set of revelations that were not nearly as shocking as the secrets of Vietnam—or should not have been, anyway, to anyone who read a newspaper during the past two decades.

Nor did Americans ever consider whether or when Afghanistan, as a source of terrorist threats to the U.S., had been effectively neutralized. Nothing is perfect, and risks are never zero. But there was no time at which we all decided that “close enough” was good enough, and that we’d rather come home than stay. Obama made something like this case during the 2011 surge, and Donald Trump tried to make a similar argument, but because Trump was too stupid or too lazy to understand anything about international affairs (or much else), he made it purely as a weaponized political charge and, as with his inane attempts to engage North Korea, in a search for a splashy and quick win.

Biden’s policy, of course, is not that different from Trump’s, despite all the partisan howling about it from Republicans. As my colleague David Frum has put it: “For good or ill, the Biden policy on Afghanistan is the same as the Trump policy, only with less lying.”

But as comforting as it would be to blame Obama and Trump, we must look inward and admit that we told our elected leaders—of both parties—that they were facing a no-win political test. If they chose to leave, they would be cowards who abandoned Afghanistan. If they chose to stay, they were warmongers intent on pursuing “forever war.” And so here we are, in the place we were destined to be: resting on 20 years of safety from another 9/11, but with Afghanistan again in the hands of the Taliban.

A serious people—the kind of people we once were—would have made serious choices, long before this current debacle was upon them. They would today be trying to learn something from nearly 2,500 dead service members and many more wounded. They would be grimly assessing risk and preparing both overseas and at home for the reality of a terrorist nation making its way back onto the international map.

Instead, we’re bickering about masks. We’re holding super-spreader events. We’re complaining and finger-pointing about who ruined our fall plans. (I’m part of that last group. Spoiler: It’s the people who refused easily accessible vaccinations.)

Biden was right, in the end, to bite the bullet and refuse to pass this conflict on to yet another president. His execution of this resolve, however, looks to be a tragic and shameful mess and will likely be a case study in policy schools for years to come. But there was no version of “Stop the forever war” that didn’t end with the fall of Kabul. We believed otherwise, as a nation, because we wanted to believe it. And because we had shopping to do and television to watch and arguments to be had on social media.

But before we move on, before we head back to the mall, before we resume posting memes, and before we return to bickering with each other about whether we should have to mask up at Starbucks, let us remember that this day came about for one reason, and one reason only.

Because it is what we wanted.
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Why would Americans do this? How could we be so selfish?
 
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Fuck off Journoscum
 
No outrage.

We spent a trillion dollars and got lots of money to Boing and other military equipment providers and make millionaires out of military contractors. How did a sensational job in 20 years making the finest military in Afghanistan - why it lasted nearly a week. Certainly they knew what they were doing.

What is there to be sad about? It isn't like we don't appreciate all the dead soldiers and oh especially the ones with brain injuries and amputations.

All in all, spending a Trillion dollars got us a lot. I look forward to the retards we get back showing up the place as ex-military normally do.

Good Times!!
 
By all means don't place any blame on the Afghan people, its not like they decided to roll over and not fight back.

After all its not like 80% of their army defected once the Americans left.

After all its not like their democratically elected government offices fled within hours of the American withdrawals.

Yuppers, its totally the Americans fault.
 
Nine inch nails was playing on the radio and the stanza:

What if this whole crusade's a charade
And behind it all there's a price to be paid
For the blood on which we dine
Justified in the name of the holy and the divine


Sounded so relevant today I like to think the DJ picked it intentionally. Anyway, people seem split between congratulating themselves for correctly predicting the obvious outcome the moment Uncle Sam left, deciding which side of the culture wars deserves the most blame, or just not giving a shit because it doesn't affect their access to tendies and sports ball one iota. That's me take on the whole situation thanks for reading.
 
Gotta love the Washington press corps. They seriously think America looking stupid is a bigger issue than the hundreds of thousands of Afghan lives we destroyed for no reason. There's never any acknowledgement that neoconservative "democracy at gunpoint" shit is insane because that would mean admitting the ideology of the Washington elite (ya know, them) is utterly toothless in the face of reality.
 
Neocons coping, seething, and probably dilating this hard make today one of the proudest days to be an American. Biden has my vote for the next election. Consider me ridin'.
As fucked as it is Biden unilaterally pulling out knowing the consequences is probably the most principled stand anybody in our government has taken in decades.
 
Neocons coping, seething, and probably dilating this hard make today one of the proudest days to be an American. Biden has my vote for the next election. Consider me ridin'.
As fucked as it is Biden unilaterally pulling out knowing the consequences is probably the most principled stand anybody in our government has taken in decades.
Does anyone unironically believe Biden's making the decisions here?
 
The Military Industrial Complex, politicians on "both sides" who use the word "we" and patriotism to convince americans to send their sons and daughters to die so they can get richer, the journalists and media outlets who are their puppets, and faggots like the author of this article are to blame.

Nobody else.
 
As fucked as it is Biden unilaterally pulling out knowing the consequences is probably the most principled stand anybody in our government has taken in decades.

judging from his comments in the prior months that he was confident the ANA and govt would hold the Taliban at bay and there was nothing to worry about? I'm pretty sure he was completely blindsided by the country folding and is just pivoting to "y-y-yeah we knew it was going to instantly implode all along" as a giant cope because it's all they have

i mean either that or he took the ~~principled stand~~ of spending half a year lying to everyone about how everything was going to be great, while knowing collapse was inevitable but not warning anyone or doing anything about it because reasons, lol
 
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As fucked as it is Biden unilaterally pulling out knowing the consequences is probably the most principled stand anybody in our government has taken in decades.
*begrudgingly half honoring the deal because keeping the US in Afghanistan would destroy any remaining legitimacy his presidency holds
 
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As fucked as it is Biden unilaterally pulling out knowing the consequences is probably the most principled stand anybody in our government has taken in decades.
Trump said we needed to leave, so did Obama. Biden finally made the call to pull the plug. Staying anymore wouldn’t have changed a god damn thing since the Afghan army tucked tail and ran immediately. The Afghan army was better equipped and had 300k troops to the tali’s 80-100k. Complete fucking disgrace.
 
As fucked as it is Biden unilaterally pulling out knowing the consequences is probably the most principled stand anybody in our government has taken in decades.
I'm curious if Biden and the military were even really trying to withdraw anything. Given how much equipment they left behind in their rush to get out it seems like they weren't planning on going anywhere until the Taliban came by and forced their hand.
 
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